sorry but a fun game experience is not relevant at all when we are talking about the price of a product and when you compre it to other cards games hearthstone is one of the most expansive cards games around
well i guess ignorance is a bliss. you clearly don't know what you're talking about, as someone that experienced the competitive scene of Yugioh first hand i can tell you that a single competitive deck in that game including a 40 cards main deck, a 15 cards extra deck and a 15 cards side deck can cost anywhere from 120 to 500 dollars and yes that's 500 USD just for 70 cards opposedly to you getting 400+cards when buying 400 packs in hearthstone, plus getting spare dust to craft whatever you want, and i have witnessed friends spending similar amounts in competitive mtg, in fact he managed to pay a couple of college semesters when he quitted mtg and sold his decks, the most expensive around? , so please don't talk out of your ass about things you don't know anything about.
oh that is cute but one question why didn't you talk about actual CCG(online cards games not printed card games) and not TCG you know the actual genre of cards game the that is relvent here like gwent ,Elder Scrolls: Legends,shadowverse and more games that I played first hand and manged to get a faster collection of cards and a higher one then I ever could in hearthstone mostly beacuse of higher rewards you can call me ignorant as much as you want but at lest I am not trying to mislead
If you spent $50+20+70+70 you 187 packs plus 6 freebies. Combined with about 70 packs from doing your dailies since the last expansion, you’d have over 250 packs, which is enough to get a full set AND keep your goldens.
So it took me 400 packs to get all the legendaries from the set, opened a total of 433 packs and am still missing 5 epics (to have everything in double)
Of course, I made around 21k dust extra from all those packs but it's still crazy to think that even 433 packs doesn't give you everything..
Obviously we're talking about the extreme side in which you want a full set but that gives you an idea on how expensive HS truly is.
You literally opened 400 packs just to get all of the legendaries/epics and didn't bother to use your dust to actually craft them, when the entire POINT to the dust is so that you don't have to buy hundreds of packs just to get the last batch of cards you don't have?
That's just like declaring how hard it is to play the game after gouging out your monitor. "Of course it's harder when you can't see the board, but it gives you an idea of how difficult the game is".
It takes about 80 packs to get most of the commons and rares. You're SUPPOSED to use your dust to craft the remaining legendaries. The game even makes sure you don't get duplicate legendaries so that you can be free to craft them without risk of getting copies.
This is NOT how you're supposed to be buying packs to complete your collection. You're making it much MUCH harder for yourself. This doesn't even get to the fact that over HALF of your pack purchases will be for a few legendaries and epics that you aren't even going to be USING! You're sitting on 21000 dust and complaining about epics. YOU CAN CRAFT EVERY SINGLE EPIC IN THE ENTIRE SET FROM SCRATCH! And I bet you're JUST looking at the duplicates and didn't even look at your golden cards.
So NO, this is NOT an accurate representation of how expensive hearthstone is,
CARD COLLECTING DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY!
I used to mainly use the dust to craft golden cards, nowadays I just want to hoard as much dust as possible so when there's a point in my life in which I can no longer afford to spend a lot of money in HS, I will have crazy amount of dust & gold to spend.
And I just said I got 21k dust from the packs, I have more than that total but that's not the point here.
I made this thread because I think it's crazy that you don't even open all the cards with 433 packs.
Just buying packs without using dusts to complete the collection is the wrong way. If you never use your dust then they're totally worthless because you'll just wasting value from your own duplicates and then buying "useless" packs with cash or gold.
Is HS cheap for a collectionist? Nope, but not even as expensive as you tried to demonstrate.
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For what profit is it to a man, if he gains the world and loses his own soul?
I used to mainly use the dust to craft golden cards, nowadays I just want to hoard as much dust as possible so when there's a point in my life in which I can no longer afford to spend a lot of money in HS, I will have crazy amount of dust & gold to spend.
And I just said I got 21k dust from the packs, I have more than that total but that's not the point here.
I made this thread because I think it's crazy that you don't even open all the cards with 433 packs.
The point is that you have more than enough dust to have a full collection without spending so much. The only reason why you are still collecting cards is purely because you either want to collect golden cards or just want to mass collect dust.
Which is silly because it's four times cheaper to just put the money into a bank account and spend THAT on packs once you no longer 'want to pay'. You are purposely pushing the most expensive way to get into the product, even from a collector's standpoint, and ignoring many of the features that is meant to be used to make the game cheaper. Then you are wondering why it costs so much.
If someone were to come here and declare that MTG is an absolute waste of money because they paid $4000 to buy one deck from a guy at a store then sold it to a friend for $5, me and I'm sure everyone from the MTG would call you an idiot. You are doing the equivalent of that on Hearthstone right now.
And if you want to do it, that's fine. There's people who buy thousands of packs per expansion even though you don't need nearly that many to get every card. That's their thing and they are free to do it. Same goes for you who want to mass collect gold cards or just mass collect dust for fun and giggles. Go ahead. Just don't think it's going to help your argument that "HS is expensive" because your particular style of enjoyment looks like trying to make a house out of caviar.
Those that argue that collecting all of the cards in HS is more expensive than other digital games has at least a better point, though it's not one that really required a thread like this. Hearthstone is NOT the game to play if you want to go on a collection spree. Honestly on CCG is. There's much cheaper games for collection urges. The entire series of Pokemon is specifically made to cater to that urge.
But that's not 'hearthstone is expensive'. That's "Treating Hearthstone like a Collect-em-all game is expensive." That would actually be a good thread to put down. Though not for the OP which is making it twice as expensive than it needs to be due to their habits ("Treating Hearthstone like a collect-em-all while putting extreme limits on yourself is expensive." Now we're getting into Manga title territory).
So no, it's not as expensive as the OP is making it out to be. His style is insane.
Given that, it's still far more expensive to play Collect-Em-All in a game like this. Not as bad as physcial games but worse than many digital games. Simply put Hearthstone is designed to avoid feeling like you have to Collect-Em-All.
Those that want to play Hearthstone can avoid Collecting-Em-All. Those that want to Collect-Em-All probably should find something cheaper.
And again, whatever you do, don't do it the way the OP did.
So it took me 400 packs to get all the legendaries from the set, opened a total of 433 packs and am still missing 5 epics (to have everything in double)
Of course, I made around 21k dust extra from all those packs but it's still crazy to think that even 433 packs doesn't give you everything..
Obviously we're talking about the extreme side in which you want a full set but that gives you an idea on how expensive HS truly is.
You literally opened 400 packs just to get all of the legendaries/epics and didn't bother to use your dust to actually craft them, when the entire POINT to the dust is so that you don't have to buy hundreds of packs just to get the last batch of cards you don't have?
That's just like declaring how hard it is to play the game after gouging out your monitor. "Of course it's harder when you can't see the board, but it gives you an idea of how difficult the game is".
It takes about 80 packs to get most of the commons and rares. You're SUPPOSED to use your dust to craft the remaining legendaries. The game even makes sure you don't get duplicate legendaries so that you can be free to craft them without risk of getting copies.
This is NOT how you're supposed to be buying packs to complete your collection. You're making it much MUCH harder for yourself. This doesn't even get to the fact that over HALF of your pack purchases will be for a few legendaries and epics that you aren't even going to be USING! You're sitting on 21000 dust and complaining about epics. YOU CAN CRAFT EVERY SINGLE EPIC IN THE ENTIRE SET FROM SCRATCH! And I bet you're JUST looking at the duplicates and didn't even look at your golden cards.
So NO, this is NOT an accurate representation of how expensive hearthstone is,
CARD COLLECTING DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY!
I used to mainly use the dust to craft golden cards, nowadays I just want to hoard as much dust as possible so when there's a point in my life in which I can no longer afford to spend a lot of money in HS, I will have crazy amount of dust & gold to spend.
And I just said I got 21k dust from the packs, I have more than that total but that's not the point here.
I made this thread because I think it's crazy that you don't even open all the cards with 433 packs.
Thought experiment: what if each set contained 500 extra legendaries, each one a 5 mana 1/1 with no card text or effects, that couldn't be opened before you owned every other legendary from the set?
If you want the full set, it is pretty pricey. That said, I went F2P this expansion, for the first time ever. I only had about 40 packs, but I am just selective with the decks I craft.
One thing is slightly tilting me though: many important meta cards will be rotating very soon. As someone that doesn't want to play Wild, I can't really justify crafting them. :/
If you spent $50+20+70+70 you 187 packs plus 6 freebies. Combined with about 70 packs from doing your dailies since the last expansion, you’d have over 250 packs, which is enough to get a full set AND keep your goldens.
Um I bought both pre purchase and had about 80 worth of gold and I was missing 3 legendary cards and to epic cards I think it was there more I needed i don’t recall cause I got mostly crap legendary out of those packs so I spent another 60 x2 more 😂
So it took me 400 packs to get all the legendaries from the set, opened a total of 433 packs and am still missing 5 epics (to have everything in double)
Of course, I made around 21k dust extra from all those packs but it's still crazy to think that even 433 packs doesn't give you everything..
Obviously we're talking about the extreme side in which you want a full set but that gives you an idea on how expensive HS truly is.
Eh. Compare that to purchasing a game system and all of the following titles/special/limited editions for any favored games and HS doesn't look so bad.
I know I've purchased game systems solely to continue playing a favorite series and just a quick browse on the internet reveals that is pretty common too. Just imagine if every HS rotation expected you to fork out $200-$400 to continue playing.
What do you do with all your dust if you buy new packs instead of crafting your missing cards?
A grandiose ego. Look at all of the pretty five digit dust figures that sit there, and do nothing. You can't even really brag about it like you would with a sick mount, title, or gear in WoW.
Just do yourself a favor and don't be OCD about collecting every card.
But yeah hearthstone is too expensive.
oh that is cute but one question why didn't you talk about actual CCG(online cards games not printed card games) and not TCG you know the actual genre of cards game the that is relvent here like gwent ,Elder Scrolls: Legends,shadowverse and more games that I played first hand and manged to get a faster collection of cards and a higher one then I ever could in hearthstone mostly beacuse of higher rewards you can call me ignorant as much as you want but at lest I am not trying to mislead
If you spent $50+20+70+70 you 187 packs plus 6 freebies. Combined with about 70 packs from doing your dailies since the last expansion, you’d have over 250 packs, which is enough to get a full set AND keep your goldens.
I used to mainly use the dust to craft golden cards, nowadays I just want to hoard as much dust as possible so when there's a point in my life in which I can no longer afford to spend a lot of money in HS, I will have crazy amount of dust & gold to spend.
And I just said I got 21k dust from the packs, I have more than that total but that's not the point here.
I made this thread because I think it's crazy that you don't even open all the cards with 433 packs.
Just buying packs without using dusts to complete the collection is the wrong way. If you never use your dust then they're totally worthless because you'll just wasting value from your own duplicates and then buying "useless" packs with cash or gold.
Is HS cheap for a collectionist? Nope, but not even as expensive as you tried to demonstrate.
For what profit is it to a man, if he gains the world and loses his own soul?
The point is that you have more than enough dust to have a full collection without spending so much. The only reason why you are still collecting cards is purely because you either want to collect golden cards or just want to mass collect dust.
Which is silly because it's four times cheaper to just put the money into a bank account and spend THAT on packs once you no longer 'want to pay'. You are purposely pushing the most expensive way to get into the product, even from a collector's standpoint, and ignoring many of the features that is meant to be used to make the game cheaper. Then you are wondering why it costs so much.
If someone were to come here and declare that MTG is an absolute waste of money because they paid $4000 to buy one deck from a guy at a store then sold it to a friend for $5, me and I'm sure everyone from the MTG would call you an idiot. You are doing the equivalent of that on Hearthstone right now.
And if you want to do it, that's fine. There's people who buy thousands of packs per expansion even though you don't need nearly that many to get every card. That's their thing and they are free to do it. Same goes for you who want to mass collect gold cards or just mass collect dust for fun and giggles. Go ahead. Just don't think it's going to help your argument that "HS is expensive" because your particular style of enjoyment looks like trying to make a house out of caviar.
Those that argue that collecting all of the cards in HS is more expensive than other digital games has at least a better point, though it's not one that really required a thread like this. Hearthstone is NOT the game to play if you want to go on a collection spree. Honestly on CCG is. There's much cheaper games for collection urges. The entire series of Pokemon is specifically made to cater to that urge.
But that's not 'hearthstone is expensive'. That's "Treating Hearthstone like a Collect-em-all game is expensive." That would actually be a good thread to put down. Though not for the OP which is making it twice as expensive than it needs to be due to their habits ("Treating Hearthstone like a collect-em-all while putting extreme limits on yourself is expensive." Now we're getting into Manga title territory).
So no, it's not as expensive as the OP is making it out to be. His style is insane.
Given that, it's still far more expensive to play Collect-Em-All in a game like this. Not as bad as physcial games but worse than many digital games. Simply put Hearthstone is designed to avoid feeling like you have to Collect-Em-All.
Those that want to play Hearthstone can avoid Collecting-Em-All. Those that want to Collect-Em-All probably should find something cheaper.
And again, whatever you do, don't do it the way the OP did.
One does not simply walk into Mordor,
unless they want to be the best they can be.
The reason this game expensive is because of people like you. You know it is expensive and still buying. Why would they drop the prices now?
Thought experiment: what if each set contained 500 extra legendaries, each one a 5 mana 1/1 with no card text or effects, that couldn't be opened before you owned every other legendary from the set?
If you want the full set, it is pretty pricey. That said, I went F2P this expansion, for the first time ever. I only had about 40 packs, but I am just selective with the decks I craft.
One thing is slightly tilting me though: many important meta cards will be rotating very soon. As someone that doesn't want to play Wild, I can't really justify crafting them. :/
Um I bought both pre purchase and had about 80 worth of gold and I was missing 3 legendary cards and to epic cards I think it was there more I needed i don’t recall cause I got mostly crap legendary out of those packs so I spent another 60 x2 more 😂
Did I miss something? Last time I checked, the game was F2P.
Free to try and find a game, dealing cards for sorrow, cards for pain.
Game not dying you wania ded GambeN got your back buy that dying artifact game plox
Eh. Compare that to purchasing a game system and all of the following titles/special/limited editions for any favored games and HS doesn't look so bad.
I know I've purchased game systems solely to continue playing a favorite series and just a quick browse on the internet reveals that is pretty common too. Just imagine if every HS rotation expected you to fork out $200-$400 to continue playing.
TIL: TODAY I LEARNED PEOPLE SPEND WAAAAY TOO MUCH MONEY ON A YOUTH CARD GAME :/
"Do you smell something...burning?
A grandiose ego. Look at all of the pretty five digit dust figures that sit there, and do nothing. You can't even really brag about it like you would with a sick mount, title, or gear in WoW.