I am very hyped for Rastakhan's Rumble, I started playing Hearthstone after the Boomsday Project was launched and this is my first expansion that i am collecting resources for. So what do you think is this expansion good for now with the cards they revealed. I am seeing very good cards with a lot of potencial but we will see. Do you think this expansion will define the meta? Or is another not that good expansion like the Boomsday Project?
I like most of the card revealed so far, but seriously bro, someone who started playing Hearthstone after the Boomsday Project shouldn't be evaluating this new expansion openly in the forum. I'm not going to call you a noob, but c'mon, try to be more humble next time, please.
The only thing sure is that it will change the meta: new decks will pop (Mage got good cards and Paladin too), maybe that will counter the existing ones. We got a good amount of anti-combo tools, which is always good (no one likes to spend an entire game knowing that the best you can do is delay your almost inevitable defeat). Aggro decks will continue to exist, but I think there hasn't been a time with no valid aggro.
Team5 seems to have grasped the current situation: up to now, the top tier classes haven't received many good cards except Hunter, which will receive a massive blow after the rotation. This kind of approach allows more variety and more clash in every match up (they are trying to go away from the rock-paper-scissors meta that we experienced in the last period)
I know it's early to say, but I'm pretty confident (or I really hope, I should say) that the game won't feel so oppressive as in the last months
We have already seen some crazy cards (like this hunter spell that revives beasts died this turn). I hoped that this time they won't release too much broken stuff, but this power level reminds very much of MSoG and KnC, and I don't think it's good for the game.
For me at the moment there is no excitement at all. Just like the last expansions: Only love for control and combo to make the game even slower. *zzzz*
At least most of the cards will hopefully have little enough impact on Wild, because with the exception of the alltime nuisance Big Priest, Wild is in a pretty healthy state imo.
Blizzard should make a special stream lessons or youtube videos in which they explain the the only way hs should be played is with supa dupa 1000 IQ control/combo homebrewed decks and 30 minutes long match is a minimum time period that proves you're not braindead blah blah something etc.
It's great to see new folks enjoying the game - to answer your question, so far I think the new set looks really fun. I mostly play Reno Hunter and Reno Rogue in Wild. It looks like a couple of the new Hunter cards will likely fit into my favourite deck, though I suspect the community is wrong about Revenge of the Wild. Hunter decks don't win games by trading on their own turn - a much better play than trading a Highmane and WW Grizzly into the Lich King, then re-summoning them with RotW is simply playing Spellbreaker and winning the game by going face. But, I guess we'll see in a couple of weeks.
I think Genn and Baku are going to define the meta until they rotate, but surely RR can have an impact on which classes have the best even or odd decks.
And perhaps they will finally succeed in forcing discolock into the meta? Who knows?
Nothing is certain until some time next january, when the meta settles.
Many people who has been playing this game for many years (including many well known streamers) still can't evaluate most of the cards before a release properly. What makes you think you can do it fine when you have only been playing for 3 months? As I said before, try to be more humble next time.
What's with the fucked up gatekeeping? Why would a new player not be allowed to be curious about more experienced players opinions? Or be excited about his first expansion release?
Don't be a dick. If it's such a nuisance to you, just ignore the thread ffs.
Start of Year: Provoke the failure of 3 expansions, force nerfs on otherwise balanced cards, bring deckbuilding to an all-time low and get rotated one year earlier for being such a threat to the game's health. - Genn and Baku's historical entry on the White Book of Shit Design, shortly before retiring unpunished
I've been liking some cards, at least more than I liked BDP, which I think was kinda bad... But, then things change when people start playing... I think this exp will get more value after the New Year rotation (for standard at least)
Suggestion for OP, don't get into silly discussion with people trashing your post and ideas, that happens all the time in this site. I get what you intended to do with the post and seems reasonable.
Well, to answer OP: I am sort of hyped about the expansion.
It kinda saddens me that the first thing people now say when seeing a card is "Odd/Even Class can now play this!!!" It's just sad when the community is already barricading half of their own collections for the sake of forced netdecking introduced in a previous expansion.
"Odd Warrior cannot run this.", "Odd Paladin doesn't need healing or immunity.", "I can sense this being used in Odd Rogue.", "Might see some play in Even Shaman in Wild." Oh wow, nice of you to already cut down half of the incoming cards before they come out. Back in the day, they were filler if they were bad. Now they are just filler if their cost is not the mainstream class cost! What a time to be alive.
Genn and Baku have pretty much neutered the Loa playstyle before they even came out, just because most of their spirits do not share a cost with them.
Still, I am hyped for those 15% of people who might not be so eager to leash their own deckbuilding by the balls and who may actually do something new during the first week. As for the rest, well, if I see Baku or Genn in the first few days I'll give them the instant-concede (it's probably the win they are after anyway).
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Start of Year: Provoke the failure of 3 expansions, force nerfs on otherwise balanced cards, bring deckbuilding to an all-time low and get rotated one year earlier for being such a threat to the game's health. - Genn and Baku's historical entry on the White Book of Shit Design, shortly before retiring unpunished
Well, to answer OP: I am sort of hyped about the expansion.
It kinda saddens me that the first thing people now say when seeing a card is "Odd/Even Class can now play this!!!" It's just sad when the community is already barricading half of their own collections for the sake of forced netdecking introduced in a previous expansion.
"Odd Warrior cannot run this.", "Odd Paladin doesn't need healing or immunity.", "I can sense this being used in Odd Rogue.", "Might see some play in Even Shaman in Wild." Oh wow, nice of you to already cut down half of the incoming cards before they come out. Back in the day, they were filler if they were bad. Now they are just filler if their cost is not the mainstream class cost! What a time to be alive.
Genn and Baku have pretty much neutered the Loa playstyle before they even came out, just because most of their spirits do not share a cost with them.
Still, I am hyped for those 15% of people who might not be so eager to leash their own deckbuilding by the balls and who may actually do something new during the first week. As for the rest, well, if I see Baku or Genn in the first few days I'll give them the instant-concede (it's probably the win they are after anyway).
I mean, people who restrict everything to Odd / Even are just not seeing the potential of cards and deckbuilding in general. It doesn't have to sadden you, just build the decks that seem coherent to you, try them out, tweak them, and eventually come up with original stuff that'll wreck these Odd / Even netdecks like taking candy from a baby.
Well, to answer OP: I am sort of hyped about the expansion.
It kinda saddens me that the first thing people now say when seeing a card is "Odd/Even Class can now play this!!!" It's just sad when the community is already barricading half of their own collections for the sake of forced netdecking introduced in a previous expansion.
"Odd Warrior cannot run this.", "Odd Paladin doesn't need healing or immunity.", "I can sense this being used in Odd Rogue.", "Might see some play in Even Shaman in Wild." Oh wow, nice of you to already cut down half of the incoming cards before they come out. Back in the day, they were filler if they were bad. Now they are just filler if their cost is not the mainstream class cost! What a time to be alive.
Genn and Baku have pretty much neutered the Loa playstyle before they even came out, just because most of their spirits do not share a cost with them.
Still, I am hyped for those 15% of people who might not be so eager to leash their own deckbuilding by the balls and who may actually do something new during the first week. As for the rest, well, if I see Baku or Genn in the first few days I'll give them the instant-concede (it's probably the win they are after anyway).
I mean, people who restrict everything to Odd / Even are just not seeing the potential of cards and deckbuilding in general. It doesn't have to sadden you, just build the decks that seem coherent to you, try them out, tweak them, and eventually come up with original stuff that'll wreck these Odd / Even netdecks like taking candy from a baby.
I think you're right, but I do also think that odd and even decks are going to be top tier for their entire standard cycle, and possibly even worse in wild. There will always be classes that are able to minimize the cost of the trade-off and capitalize on the enormous advantage of a better hero power.
It's not that it's not possible to make top-tier decks without Genn or Baku, it's just that there will always be top-tier decks that run them – and any class that is able to use them effectively will have a huge advantage.
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I am very hyped for Rastakhan's Rumble, I started playing Hearthstone after the Boomsday Project was launched and this is my first expansion that i am collecting resources for. So what do you think is this expansion good for now with the cards they revealed. I am seeing very good cards with a lot of potencial but we will see. Do you think this expansion will define the meta? Or is another not that good expansion like the Boomsday Project?
I like most of the card revealed so far, but seriously bro, someone who started playing Hearthstone after the Boomsday Project shouldn't be evaluating this new expansion openly in the forum. I'm not going to call you a noob, but c'mon, try to be more humble next time, please.
I think we will need to see more cards ...
Legend with : S65 Freeze Mage, S57 Maly Gonk Druid, S57 "Okay" Shaman, S53 Boom-zooka Hunter, S53 Maly Tog Druid, S52 Wild Tog Druid ft.Blingtron, S50 Quest Rogue, S49 Dead Man's Warrior, S41 Wild Clown Fiesta Druid, S41 Hadronox Jade Druid, S40 Wild OTK Dragon Druid, S35 SMOrc Shaman, S33 Jade Druid, S22 Control Priest, S19 Control Priest
I totally agree. ;)
The best we've had since Kobolds.
The thread is called what do you think ,not what I think, I only said that I am hyped for the expansion.
The only thing sure is that it will change the meta: new decks will pop (Mage got good cards and Paladin too), maybe that will counter the existing ones. We got a good amount of anti-combo tools, which is always good (no one likes to spend an entire game knowing that the best you can do is delay your almost inevitable defeat). Aggro decks will continue to exist, but I think there hasn't been a time with no valid aggro.
Team5 seems to have grasped the current situation: up to now, the top tier classes haven't received many good cards except Hunter, which will receive a massive blow after the rotation. This kind of approach allows more variety and more clash in every match up (they are trying to go away from the rock-paper-scissors meta that we experienced in the last period)
I know it's early to say, but I'm pretty confident (or I really hope, I should say) that the game won't feel so oppressive as in the last months
We have already seen some crazy cards (like this hunter spell that revives beasts died this turn). I hoped that this time they won't release too much broken stuff, but this power level reminds very much of MSoG and KnC, and I don't think it's good for the game.
For me at the moment there is no excitement at all. Just like the last expansions: Only love for control and combo to make the game even slower. *zzzz*
At least most of the cards will hopefully have little enough impact on Wild, because with the exception of the alltime nuisance Big Priest, Wild is in a pretty healthy state imo.
there's nothing wrrong with the expansion - on the flipside there isn't much right with it either. everything seems mediocre-ish
wouldn't advise to spend real money for it either, also true to the fact that it's the shortest time around for standard players
all in all it's just the sort of "it's a thing that exists, but who really cares? moving on."-sort of thing
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It's great to see new folks enjoying the game - to answer your question, so far I think the new set looks really fun. I mostly play Reno Hunter and Reno Rogue in Wild. It looks like a couple of the new Hunter cards will likely fit into my favourite deck, though I suspect the community is wrong about Revenge of the Wild. Hunter decks don't win games by trading on their own turn - a much better play than trading a Highmane and WW Grizzly into the Lich King, then re-summoning them with RotW is simply playing Spellbreaker and winning the game by going face. But, I guess we'll see in a couple of weeks.
In any event - good luck with your pack openings!
I think Genn and Baku are going to define the meta until they rotate, but surely RR can have an impact on which classes have the best even or odd decks.
And perhaps they will finally succeed in forcing discolock into the meta? Who knows?
Nothing is certain until some time next january, when the meta settles.
What's with the fucked up gatekeeping? Why would a new player not be allowed to be curious about more experienced players opinions? Or be excited about his first expansion release?
Don't be a dick. If it's such a nuisance to you, just ignore the thread ffs.
Annoying at the moment. In the most slow and greedy meta of the HS history there isn't any good aggro cards. Seems stupid from my point of view.
Doesn't take much, right?
Start of Year: Provoke the failure of 3 expansions, force nerfs on otherwise balanced cards, bring deckbuilding to an all-time low and get rotated one year earlier for being such a threat to the game's health.
- Genn and Baku's historical entry on the White Book of Shit Design, shortly before retiring unpunished
Nobody's attacking you, personally. Everyone is just pointing out how fundamentally unreasonable everything you're saying is.
I'm sorry for OP to have his thread hijacked by such toxic trolling.
I've been liking some cards, at least more than I liked BDP, which I think was kinda bad... But, then things change when people start playing... I think this exp will get more value after the New Year rotation (for standard at least)
Suggestion for OP, don't get into silly discussion with people trashing your post and ideas, that happens all the time in this site. I get what you intended to do with the post and seems reasonable.
Well, to answer OP: I am sort of hyped about the expansion.
It kinda saddens me that the first thing people now say when seeing a card is "Odd/Even Class can now play this!!!" It's just sad when the community is already barricading half of their own collections for the sake of forced netdecking introduced in a previous expansion.
"Odd Warrior cannot run this.", "Odd Paladin doesn't need healing or immunity.", "I can sense this being used in Odd Rogue.", "Might see some play in Even Shaman in Wild." Oh wow, nice of you to already cut down half of the incoming cards before they come out. Back in the day, they were filler if they were bad. Now they are just filler if their cost is not the mainstream class cost! What a time to be alive.
Genn and Baku have pretty much neutered the Loa playstyle before they even came out, just because most of their spirits do not share a cost with them.
Still, I am hyped for those 15% of people who might not be so eager to leash their own deckbuilding by the balls and who may actually do something new during the first week. As for the rest, well, if I see Baku or Genn in the first few days I'll give them the instant-concede (it's probably the win they are after anyway).
Start of Year: Provoke the failure of 3 expansions, force nerfs on otherwise balanced cards, bring deckbuilding to an all-time low and get rotated one year earlier for being such a threat to the game's health.
- Genn and Baku's historical entry on the White Book of Shit Design, shortly before retiring unpunished
I mean, people who restrict everything to Odd / Even are just not seeing the potential of cards and deckbuilding in general. It doesn't have to sadden you, just build the decks that seem coherent to you, try them out, tweak them, and eventually come up with original stuff that'll wreck these Odd / Even netdecks like taking candy from a baby.
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I think you're right, but I do also think that odd and even decks are going to be top tier for their entire standard cycle, and possibly even worse in wild. There will always be classes that are able to minimize the cost of the trade-off and capitalize on the enormous advantage of a better hero power.
It's not that it's not possible to make top-tier decks without Genn or Baku, it's just that there will always be top-tier decks that run them – and any class that is able to use them effectively will have a huge advantage.