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I started playing Hearthstone like 1 year ago because Diablo 3 was getting more and more boring. The biggest point why I felt boring was the fact, that in Diablo 3 everyone had the same char, noone was special, even if you put like double or triple time into the game. Everyone had the same items, same skills, same everything.So when I invest time in a game, I want to be something special, I want to have the best character (even if there will always be someone better). It's the struggle to be the best.
When I started Hearthstone, I was enjoying it and also investing in it to get the needed cards for the meta. Now I have the same feeling than in Diablo 3... Everyone has the same Deck, the same strategy and it feels like only this strategy and only those meta decks will help you efficently to reach your goal (getting legend for example). There is no individuality. If you make your own deck for example, you can reach your goal too, but just not that effective...
Right now, I am waiting for a new game. Maybe Diablo 4... oh wait
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ModeratorAs opposed to Arena, where your choices literally don't matter in the slightest when it turns out your opponent RnG'd his way to Godlike luck in the drafting.
And where you win or lose based purely on the initial mulligan (because most matches in Arena are won in the first few turns if you have no answer to the early drop snowballing).
Yeah.... Arena is so much better than constructed... except it isn't.
I can't believe people are still being duped into paying gold or actual real money for Arena! And it's not just gullible newbs who think it's the best place to go and get experience and gold from either! It's even veterans who've played this game for over a year who still fall into the Arena trap!
It's 2018 people! What are you doing?! Lol!
I cant believe people are still posting stupid threads after all those years...
I don’t know how to make a topic in forums on mobile but is anyone else having trouble getting in I am on eu and it won’t let me in.
I hate ladder. Especially since blizzard starting to control the win rates of players (It's not bad luck when you win 5 in a row and then proceed to lose the next 5). I wasn't very sure about Artifacts "tournament only" modes, but now that I think of it I much more prefer it. Ladder just feels like a braindead mode that rewards time input over skill
I would argue that what you would want is a single player game rather than another Diablo title.
Competition kills Creativity by design. The goal of a competitive format in any realm is to look for the most optimal way of performing an action. Once that method is found everything else falls by the wayside.
The folks who enjoy the competitive scene don't mind the lack of creativity since they enjoy the pursuit of perfection. They'll run the same play over and over over until variance and luck are dead then seek to prove it in a Tournament. Thus why so many who rank up 'mindlessly' play the same few decks.
Note that those who dislike that but play here are playing casually, content to play whatever decks they want without regard to where that puts them in the rankings. But I imagine most who have this complaint wouldn't be content with this: otherwise they'd be playing Mecha'thun Shaman instead.
Single player games (like...Oh look Red Dead 2 just came out) allow for competition with an entity but without the human drive for optimization. In fact, good game designers craft such games to lead players to not aim for the optimized route. Thus you're free to approach things in different ways and get different experiences.
So honestly I'd say stop looking for multiplayer games for your fix. Find a GOOD single player title you can dive deep into. And for *#@$()#(*'S sake don't look at a let's play or walkthrough or speed run of the thing.
TL:DR
You're surrounded by people who are optimizing the fun out of the game and getting caught up in the same. Play a game WITHOUT those people and you'll find your fun again.
(sidenote: Yes you can do that in multiplayer games but not competitively vs other people. You need to play casually at a low rank. Rank 15 is a good home for folks that want to play Mecha'Thun Shaman and Divine Shield Paladin.)
One does not simply walk into Mordor,
unless they want to be the best they can be.
I never preferred constructed myself, but that doesnt mean i assume others dont like it either. Asking why someone still plays ladder after several years is like asking someone why he plays football for 10 years. Isnt it just the same thing over and over as well? Ppl enjoy different things, just cause you dont like it doesnt mean someone else cant. Im sorry, but these kind of threads always feel insanely elitist to me.
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so.. because YOU dont have fun anymore other people can't play this game the way they want? hmm... also your argument is so empty, your post just show to us the lack of confidence that you have, i played Diablo 3 before HS and i wasnt having fun with it anymore so i just quit the game didnt post on the forums or created a thread asking if other people feel the same way , so just quit the game if you're not having fun with it or do u need a poll to make your choices?
I think skill is a far higher contributor to success than luck in constructed.
Anger is the punishment we give ourselves for someone else's mistake.
dfg
I hate arena cause u never know what to play around. By playing constructed u can predict enemy moves play accordingly and tech ur deck a bit to surprise them.
Only ppl that lose think their decisions dont matter. Sure 20% of matches it will be like that but a true player will always capitalise on an opening and not cry about the matches.
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I don't like Arena...at all. NEVER play it. Even when they do the free entries I usually draft a deck and leave it there unplayed. I too have grown tired of Standard. I haven't even ordered the expansion. Not sure if I'm going to. I've got like 3 or 4 thousand gold saved up and might just use that and that's it. I personally, for myself fell like HS had it's time and now it's just a time waster during like a lunch break or on the shiter.
I still get Legend , never rush it , mostly I get there at the end of the month.
But it never feels like a grind to me , maybe because I play my own deck and try to make it work. Lately you can face a lot of different decks, definitely not a 3 deck Rock Paper Scissors meta. Also while watching pros like Viper I realize how much people misplay.(He is very good ofc ) He notices questionable plays so fast , from his side or his opponents. Even at high Legend ppl misplay and get punished.
The aspect of learning, or debating about the correct play, is something that is enjoyable.
I guess people like the OP just jam their cards without much thought behind it , eventually get Legend , and wonder how others stil can enjoy jamming their cards....
Getting legend isn’t all that hard at all once you get there a few times. I personally find it fun because you can face pros when you’re at higher ranks. For example yesterday I faced sinto and monsanto within 3 games.
I can't believe people still play Arena and I'm not talking about new players, I'm talking about veterans. It's the same broken neutrals over and over. I feel like your decisions don't matter, it's whoever draws better and got better draft options.
Why don't other people enjoy the game in the same way as me? Anyone
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Have you tried playing wild? I'm not a competitive player but I like wild a lot since there is a lot more deck diversity. I usually only play a lot in standard for the first 2-4 weeks after a new expansion, after that I just go back to playing whatever I feel like in wild. I'm not sure how good the diversity is in the lower ranks though.
I agree about arena, I've only been actively playing it since the taverns of time event but, like Kripp keeps saying, arena is in a great spot right now. Personally I would like a little more diversity though, since a lot of decks feel the same because (atleast for me) a lot of the same neutral cards keep popping up in the drafts.
I'd play more Arenas if my gold income wasn't at stake, backed up merely by my bad skill at it.
Anyway, Arena inherently lacks what keeps me going with the game, and which Constructed has, that is homebrewing and customisation of decks.
Surely that freedom in constructed is merely about building a deck, since playing in ladder is fully satisfying only if you accept sub-optimal results, or if you narrow down your deck to the extremely tight meta powerlevel...
But that's it, can't have everything i suppose.
"its'snot bad luck when you win 5 in a row and then lose the net 5"
care to elaborate on that statement? its not a magical unicorn that causes it. maybe skill variance, starting hands, type of matchup, etc...
I would like to hear what you think the cause is......
that's like your opinion man, some of us really dnnt like the unfocused rng defined decks of Arena