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I'm just gonna copy this from my Reddit post. Sorry for the "laziness", but I'm trying to get everyone's perspective. Talk about wild only for tiebreakers, or if there's an absolutely broken deck that NEEDS to be discussed.

Before you say it. Yes, I know. There is no "Worst class". Don't even say it. Every class has been top tier at some point, and classes fluctuate in relevance. This is a good thing, and I get it. But that's not the point.

What I'm trying to figure out is, which class has, in the entire history of Hearthstone; been meta relevant the least. As someone who joined during Kharazhan, during the "lol Priest" era. And who's done a bit of "research" (looking up which class is the worst over and over). I'd say that the only time where Priest was truly top tier was in KOTH. And even then, it was competing with Jade Druid.

I'd argue that every other class has been absolute top tier (which I'd define as, being the best "deck" with no real competitors) at some point. Correct me if I'm wrong (because again, I'm just basing this on what I've read). But Warrior had Patron/Pirate Warrior, Paladin had Secret/Dude/Even Paladin, Rouge had Quest Rogue, Warlock had Cubelock (although it was competing with Jade Druid I think), Mage had...mech mage (maybe Mage is the worst class, IDK much about Mage)? Druid had Jade Druid, Taunt Druid, Druid Druid, etc. Hunter had Hundertaker. Shaman had Shudderwock (not really super top tier, but worth mentioning) and Midrange Shaman.

So yeah, since I obviously have no fucking clue what I'm talking about; someone help me figure out which class has had the least relevant meta time. And yes, before you say it again, I know that there is no "worst class". But there is a "Class that has been meta relevant the least". And that's what I want to figure out.

Cheers in advance.

DIPSHIT EDIT: Should probably mention but, don't talk about wild much unless it is absolutely necessary. Wild is, by design, an unbalanced format. I think. IDK.

SHITTY EDIT: From now on, this is a thread where Priest and Shaman will be known as Proost and Shmon. Anyone who calls them anything else is not allowed to have an opinion (well you are, but I will disapprove).

You referred to Proost and Shmon as Priest and Shaman in your actual post text.  Your argument is invalid. 

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You referred to Proost and Shmon as Priest and Shaman in your actual post text.  Your argument is invalid. 

 >TFW shitty edit mentions the newfound use of Proost and Shmon. That's when I decided to use it.

At the moment, at least in Wild, Secret Hunter is considered a low T1.

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Deathrattle hunter kicks my quest warrior butt on a regular basis., plus I'd say midrange hunter is the go-to deck for a new account that you want to climb the ladder with.  Always a solid option imho.

 i mean dont get me wrong hunter has solid deck but did hunter ever had any deck ( besides classic huntard and undertaker) that was considered t1 or very good? most hunter decks imo are in the good section not the very good section

Ungoro Old Gods midrange with 8 mana call of the wild was tier 1 I think.  

Here is a vid from Trumps f2p run, when he finally switched to midrange hunter (he didn't make it to legend, but I think he said if he'd switched to hunter earlier, than he would've made it):

I've been playing Hearthstone since closed beta and will try to summarize my experience with all the classes, mentioning the best decks for them through the years (if i forget a deck dont roast me, i'm writing this down from memory).

1. Druid: Druid has historically been one of the top tier classes and has been relevant for most metagames. The ramp package of wild growth and nourish in the classic set plus the occasional broken cards printed for him have made druid one of the strongest, if not THE strongest class in hs history.

2. Hunter: The class was very relevant throughout the classic set and naxxramas, before the undertaker nerf. It was really powerful back then, but after that hunter was getting the short end of the stick constantly. A few decks have made it to tier 2 in the next couple of years ( call of the wild midrange hunter, barnes spell hunter and now egg hunter and secret hunter) but for a long time the class was a joke. One of the strong contenders for the weakest class in my mind.

3. Mage: This is a weird one. This class, apart from 8 mana Pyroblast shenanigans and freeze mage in closed beta has been mostly mediocre. There's no broken mage deck that comes to mind in recent metas. A few solid mage decks I can remember are Casino mage back in the shamanstone era, tempo mage before witchwood and guenther mage. All in all this is a class that most ppl dont complain about but neither say its weak. I'd say it's been mediocre overall.

4. Paladin: I would characterize this class as mediocre/bad with the occasional broken deck. Secret pala reigned upon us for a long time, Even paladin was a surprise deck that had to be nerfed, murloc pala was tier 1 and Odd pala has been a solid tier 2 deck (pls, pls dont look only at the hsreplay stats that have it as the no1 deck for about 6 months now). Back in the days of classic set and naxx paladin was kind of a joke class, rarely seen and only in control forms. But this changed so I'd say this class is on the mid table and not really a contender for the weakest class (or the strongest).

5. Priest: This was the first class that came to mind when thinking about the weakest, the joke class. For a long, long time priest was laughed upon by everyone, it didnt even have a tier 2 deck. The first good priest deck that I remember is a midrange-control priest created by Kibler that had solid matchups (I piloted the deck to legend back then, maybe my favorite deck of all time) in the combo druidstone era (when druid was nerfed to the ground). After that priest was pissed upon as a class for months, maybe even years until Knights arrived. After that we had 2 or maybe even 3 solid tier 1 priest decks, one of them (Razakus) was so oppressive that everyone in high legend played it and it was dictating the meta so much that it had to be nerfed. This deck is one of the top decks of all time to me. After that, priest has mediocre combo and control decks in the lower tiers, slowly crawling back to its hole. The second strong contended for the weakest class.

6. Rogue: Rogue had good decks, tier 1 and 2 decks through the years and rotations. Miracle rogue, aggro rogue decks with pirates, quest rogue, keleseth rogue, odd rogue are all strong meta defining decks. There have been metagames where rogue was totally bad, but mostly it has had its day in the sun and is seen as one of the strongest classes throughout Hearthstone history.

7. Shaman: Apart from the shamanstone era, shaman too was one of the forgotten children of blizzard. But since shamanstone lasted for a year, a year that shaman was by far the no1 class with old aggro shaman, midrange shaman and then aggro pirate shaman, and the memories of playing vs shaman 9 times out of 10 are still strong to me, I cannot put this as the weakest class. Priest and Hunter had similar meta defining decks but for shorter periods. Plus shaman had shudderwock as a tier 1 deck that may possibly return to tier 1 in the following metagames (sits strongly at tier 2 and as a solid option for a tournament lineup). So yes, this has been a really weak class overall but not as weak as others.

8. Warlock: Who in their right mind would consider Warlock as a weak class, right? Zoo has been around forever with a break of a year, Renolock, handlock, evenlock, demonlock, cubelock... This is a class with tons of tier 1 and broken decks. another contender for the strongest class.

9. Warrior: Last but not least, Warrior. A few notable warrior decks are patron warrior, pirate warrior, tempo warrior and a lot of different control warrior versions. All in all not the strongest class but definitely not the weakest either. Patron and pirate dominated for months,  tempo was one of the best decks of its meta and control was and is solid in a lot of forms and shapes (Nzoth, Cthun, Odd etc).

If you read this you can see that I'm trying to make a decision between Hunter and Priest. I'm still not decided, so I'm putting these 2 together as the weakest classes of Hearthstone history overall! 

I'd go with Priest, tbh. Apart from like two broken decks (Razakus and Big, which was unrealiable at times, vey high-roll dependant) and some difficult combo decks, it's a so-so class. 

Also, I'd say that Shaman would take the second spot, but I still remember the days of Midrange Shaman and Aggro Shaman, because Team 5 thought that Tunnel Trog, Totem Golem and pre-nerf Spirit Claws were balanced, not forgeting the most balanced card (after Dr 7) - 4 mana 7/7.

SHITTY EDIT: From now on, this is a thread where Priest and Shaman will be known as Proost and Shmon. Anyone who calls them anything else is not allowed to have an opinion (well you are, but I will disapprove).

 

 pathetic

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SHITTY EDIT: From now on, this is a thread where Priest and Shaman will be known as Proost and Shmon. Anyone who calls them anything else is not allowed to have an opinion (well you are, but I will disapprove).

 

 pathetic

 And cringy as fuck...op is a donk if ive ever seen one

 Yes, it is a very bad idea to set premises like that! Locked.