So many people on here forums think for some reason that this expansions cards for Druid is somehow a sign that Blizzard wants to HoF Malygos.
Whats the logic? Malygos is one of the original legendary dragons in the game. As such should never be considered for HoF, and same for Ysers, Alexstrasza, Deathwing, and Norzdormu.
Rather than HoF one of the coolest cards in the game, why don’t we urge the community to not ALL flock to a OTK Druid deck and play nothing else for 2-3 months. Let’s not give Blizzard forum after forum calling for HoF, and instead nerf newer cars if need no, or simply play a variety of decks. I’m sure many players new and veteran love malygos. And would hate to see him go to HoF over stupid reasons.
Pretty much the first time I've seen Malygos being suggested as a HOF candidate.
However, if you want to get your point across, I would post to reddit since Blizzard devs actually go to and read the sub.
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I don't think there's any reason for Malygos to be HoF'd…. yet.
However, blizzard sure is printing a lot of scary cards. It's one of those situations where he's always been balanced until they release broken cards like Dreampetal Florist
So many people on here forums think for some reason that this expansions cards for Druid is somehow a sign that Blizzard wants to HoF Malygos.
Whats the logic? Malygos is one of the original legendary dragons in the game. As such should never be considered for HoF, and same for Ysers, Alexstrasza, Deathwing, and Norzdormu.
Rather than HoF one of the coolest cards in the game, why don’t we urge the community to not ALL flock to a OTK Druid deck and play nothing else for 2-3 months. Let’s not give Blizzard forum after forum calling for HoF, and instead nerf newer cars if need no, or simply play a variety of decks. I’m sure many players new and veteran love malygos. And would hate to see him go to HoF over stupid reasons.
Ragnaros is even more iconic than the dragons. He pretty much is the standard of how hearthstone cards worked. Didn't save him for the HoF.
The point of rotation is Change. This is the mode that forces you to get out of your comfort zone every few years and hunt for new ways to play the game. There is not supposed to be some 'comfort pick' here. That is what Wild is for. Wild is where you go if you don't want to change, if you want to keep your deck or playstyle past the 2 year mark.
This is why cards like ice block was moved. Every expansion, every rotation, when mage cards came out the question was always "How will this fit freeze mage." or "Will this revive Freeze mage?" Sometimes the deck faded, but we always sought to bring it back. That is not how decks should work in Standard. At some point the deck should die, or at worst, be remade completely into a new form (which is why 'zoo' stil exists, because what we deem as 'zoo' isn't anything like it was in 2017, or the version in 2016, or 2015, or so on and I wouldn't really argue if someone wanted to debate about this not being good enough).
Honestly, Malygos decks haven't really changed in their game plan. Find a way to cheat Mally out while holding a mass of spells, cast spells at face. We haven't found a new way of using him. Just new cards that pull the same trick. It's never been broken, but it hasn't really changed. That's exactly a HoF situation (as opposed to a nerf situation).
That you always have to be careful of what spells you allow, what ramp you allow, and what cheat out effects you'll allow because "here comes the Mally deck!" is EXACTLY when you HoF a card.
And yes, Malygos has been requested in the past, though not heavily since demand tends to come more from present activity and Maly hasn't been active for a while.
But yes, this really isn't something to go on about seriously until next year. Even IF Maly becomes a problem, blizzard made it clear they don't HoF between rotations. So they'll nerf instead (probably not Maly but something else).
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Or simply nerf Malygos. +5 spellpower is a bit overpowered, especially when duplicated. When you suspect you are facing a Malygos deck, all you can do is rush and hope you finish before they get any use of it. Or if you didn't see it coming you get angry because of the OTK, that might take you from 20 to 0 in one turn. It's an unpleasant matchup that breeds hate toward the game and the class.
I honestly think you should become invulnerable after taking 20 damage in one turn. 2 turns to kill someone by simply going face is fair enough, and gives you a fighting chance. HS is too much about making predictions as it is now. But I understand if my opinion conflicts with the ideas of the "kill as fast as possible" players out there.
Or simply nerf Malygos. +5 spellpower is a bit overpowered and OTK decks are annoying. They only promote stressful games that gives the opponent more hate toward the class and the game.
Or simply nerf Malygos. +5 spellpower is a bit overpowered and OTK decks are annoying. They only promote stressful games that gives the opponent more hate toward the class and the game.
Say that to people that play Miracle Rogue.
There are all sorts of cancer decks, but Miracle Rogue has to use a lot of cards to kill you in one turn. They are still just as annoying though, which is why I want Auctioneer out of the standard meta.
I don't think there's any reason for Malygos to be HoF'd…. yet.
However, blizzard sure is printing a lot of scary cards. It's one of those situations where he's always been balanced until they release broken cards like Dreampetal Florist
I can already see the scary scenario. Have only a few expensive minions in your deck and play Dreampetal when only Malygos can get affected. This type of abuse is not how it's meant to be played. That's why they need to have restrictions for such cards like: "If you have at least 3 minions" in your hand. Random is meant to be random.
Don't HoF him, nerf him. He's going to ruin wild more than standard.
If Blizzard is going to keep printing more and more cards that cheat minions out or cheat mana, this card is going to keep limiting the design space around those cards.
And also, Malygos games are one of the worst. Stall, stall, stall.... game over. Not interactive or fun at all. I hope to God malygos is not prevalent in this meta, but it sure looks like it so far
Hof is mostly for cards that perennially dominate the meta, even the best Maly decks dont stay up there for long and it doesnt have the broad usage of most of the HoF cards.
Seeing as I’ve only played against maybe 20 malygos opponents in my HS career of 3 years, it’s not overly common. I play a lot of malygos deck, but they require skill to pilot consistently, unlike something like, let’s say, Keleseth. The problem won’t be the cards, but some asshat streamer who finds a broken combo and everyone follows like goddamn sheep (e.g. healock).
Or simply nerf Malygos. +5 spellpower is a bit overpowered and OTK decks are annoying. They only promote stressful games that gives the opponent more hate toward the class and the game.
Say that to people that play Miracle Rogue.
There are all sorts of cancer decks, but Miracle Rogue has to use a lot of cards to kill you in one turn. They are still just as annoying though, which is why I want Auctioneer out of the standard meta.
Rather than HoF one of the coolest cards in the game, why don’t we urge the community to not ALL flock to a OTK Druid deck and play nothing else for 2-3 months. Let’s not give Blizzard forum after forum calling for HoF, and instead nerf newer cars if need no, or simply play a variety of decks.
Yeah but as it stands at the moment, everyone will be playing Druid. Which may turn out to be a good thing once Blizzard sees this and realizes their mistake. Only then will they make a change in the form of nerfs. And yes, I do think Malygos will retire to the hall of fame in April. It has already proven to be strong so far and it will dominate the standard meta this year. As far as wild goes, Aviana might get the nerf hammer otherwise it will be the Naga Sea Witch fiasco all over again.
That's fucking dragon is essence of MAGIC!!!.What did you expect?that he was Poisonous?? Malygos are balanced the problem is Druid summon hes on the 4 turn. Nerf in Malygos is not necessary
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So many people on here forums think for some reason that this expansions cards for Druid is somehow a sign that Blizzard wants to HoF Malygos.
Whats the logic? Malygos is one of the original legendary dragons in the game. As such should never be considered for HoF, and same for Ysers, Alexstrasza, Deathwing, and Norzdormu.
Rather than HoF one of the coolest cards in the game, why don’t we urge the community to not ALL flock to a OTK Druid deck and play nothing else for 2-3 months. Let’s not give Blizzard forum after forum calling for HoF, and instead nerf newer cars if need no, or simply play a variety of decks. I’m sure many players new and veteran love malygos. And would hate to see him go to HoF over stupid reasons.
Pretty much the first time I've seen Malygos being suggested as a HOF candidate.
However, if you want to get your point across, I would post to reddit since Blizzard devs actually go to and read the sub.
I don't think there's any reason for Malygos to be HoF'd…. yet.
However, blizzard sure is printing a lot of scary cards. It's one of those situations where he's always been balanced until they release broken cards like Dreampetal Florist
Don't the HOF transitions take place with the first expansion of the new year? In this case that would be April. Not 100% sure though.
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Ragnaros is even more iconic than the dragons. He pretty much is the standard of how hearthstone cards worked. Didn't save him for the HoF.
The point of rotation is Change. This is the mode that forces you to get out of your comfort zone every few years and hunt for new ways to play the game. There is not supposed to be some 'comfort pick' here. That is what Wild is for. Wild is where you go if you don't want to change, if you want to keep your deck or playstyle past the 2 year mark.
This is why cards like ice block was moved. Every expansion, every rotation, when mage cards came out the question was always "How will this fit freeze mage." or "Will this revive Freeze mage?" Sometimes the deck faded, but we always sought to bring it back. That is not how decks should work in Standard. At some point the deck should die, or at worst, be remade completely into a new form (which is why 'zoo' stil exists, because what we deem as 'zoo' isn't anything like it was in 2017, or the version in 2016, or 2015, or so on and I wouldn't really argue if someone wanted to debate about this not being good enough).
Honestly, Malygos decks haven't really changed in their game plan. Find a way to cheat Mally out while holding a mass of spells, cast spells at face. We haven't found a new way of using him. Just new cards that pull the same trick. It's never been broken, but it hasn't really changed. That's exactly a HoF situation (as opposed to a nerf situation).
That you always have to be careful of what spells you allow, what ramp you allow, and what cheat out effects you'll allow because "here comes the Mally deck!" is EXACTLY when you HoF a card.
And yes, Malygos has been requested in the past, though not heavily since demand tends to come more from present activity and Maly hasn't been active for a while.
But yes, this really isn't something to go on about seriously until next year. Even IF Maly becomes a problem, blizzard made it clear they don't HoF between rotations. So they'll nerf instead (probably not Maly but something else).
One does not simply walk into Mordor,
unless they want to be the best they can be.
Not Just Druid cards but mostly.
The reasons are;
- Spell Damage for mages,
- Eureka!
- Flobbidinous Floop
- Dreampetal Florist
- Necrium Vial
Also there are cards which exists before this expansion. Malygos enablers, and i'm sure there will be more with next expansion.
They are acting like they let us play more with Malygos before he hof'ed. I don't want it btw, just I've found them like signs of HoF.
Memedeck-seeker. Always tries to build new decks. Hates tournements, streamers, netdecks and poor-o players.
ah, but a tournement mode could be great !!!
Or simply nerf Malygos. +5 spellpower is a bit overpowered, especially when duplicated. When you suspect you are facing a Malygos deck, all you can do is rush and hope you finish before they get any use of it. Or if you didn't see it coming you get angry because of the OTK, that might take you from 20 to 0 in one turn. It's an unpleasant matchup that breeds hate toward the game and the class.
I honestly think you should become invulnerable after taking 20 damage in one turn. 2 turns to kill someone by simply going face is fair enough, and gives you a fighting chance. HS is too much about making predictions as it is now. But I understand if my opinion conflicts with the ideas of the "kill as fast as possible" players out there.
Say that to people that play Miracle Rogue.
Malygos is not a problem, new druid cards are, if nerf or HoF Malygos just will replace for everything else.
Druid card should be nerfed before release.
There are all sorts of cancer decks, but Miracle Rogue has to use a lot of cards to kill you in one turn. They are still just as annoying though, which is why I want Auctioneer out of the standard meta.
I can already see the scary scenario. Have only a few expensive minions in your deck and play Dreampetal when only Malygos can get affected. This type of abuse is not how it's meant to be played. That's why they need to have restrictions for such cards like: "If you have at least 3 minions" in your hand. Random is meant to be random.
Don't HoF him, nerf him. He's going to ruin wild more than standard.
If Blizzard is going to keep printing more and more cards that cheat minions out or cheat mana, this card is going to keep limiting the design space around those cards.
And also, Malygos games are one of the worst. Stall, stall, stall.... game over. Not interactive or fun at all. I hope to God malygos is not prevalent in this meta, but it sure looks like it so far
Hof is mostly for cards that perennially dominate the meta, even the best Maly decks dont stay up there for long and it doesnt have the broad usage of most of the HoF cards.
They should HoF Malygos and then maybe a rework of Nozdormu into something more then just a troll card, The other dragons are still fine.
Seeing as I’ve only played against maybe 20 malygos opponents in my HS career of 3 years, it’s not overly common. I play a lot of malygos deck, but they require skill to pilot consistently, unlike something like, let’s say, Keleseth. The problem won’t be the cards, but some asshat streamer who finds a broken combo and everyone follows like goddamn sheep (e.g. healock).
sprint is better at the minute anyway.
Yeah but as it stands at the moment, everyone will be playing Druid. Which may turn out to be a good thing once Blizzard sees this and realizes their mistake. Only then will they make a change in the form of nerfs. And yes, I do think Malygos will retire to the hall of fame in April. It has already proven to be strong so far and it will dominate the standard meta this year. As far as wild goes, Aviana might get the nerf hammer otherwise it will be the Naga Sea Witch fiasco all over again.
Please HoF Malygos and Leeroy.
That's fucking dragon is essence of MAGIC!!!.What did you expect?that he was Poisonous?? Malygos are balanced the problem is Druid summon hes on the 4 turn. Nerf in Malygos is not necessary