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I'm f2p, bought only the welcome bundle to get a guaranteed Velen; honestly, I'm not willing to pay 2 euro for a pack, but those kinda of special deals are fine (5 euro for 10 packs and a legendary in the welcome bundle). That said, I didn't preorder or take any other special deals, nor will I get this one - it's just too much money for a limited offer. And I don't mean time limited as in we're only able to get it now, but time limited as I'll play with those cards for a year and a half, and then they're basically gone so I'd feel I've wasted money since I don't play wild.
OP is clearly delighted by the jaraxxus skin, I'm not really tbh so I don't care...but if Arthas was behind a pay-wall like this (or, idk, Illidan?), I'd probably be a bit disappointed with the way they went about this.
In general, I feel like only cosmetics should be purchasable in these types of games - we should be on equal ground with our collections and ability to play decks (not give us whole collections, but easier ways to get more cards without paying money), but people should get more cosmetic options they could use to distinguish themselves - for example, whenever I see someone who uses that golden china cardback whatever it's name is, or a dalaran cardback, I know it's someone who played in major tournaments etc.
You can't stop the signal.
Please take my money!
lol with $80 I can buy 2 copies of witcher 3 now. W/o sale! (I bought it during the winter sale for $10) Any AAA game costs $60-70. And they offer 80 packs and shitty skin for this price. Good job, Bli$$ard.
One day this game will stop existing. I can't wait.
dlc cost ~30$... and you'll (prob) play hs a lot more than average dlc...
*edit: "...play one set/expansion of hs a lot more than an average dls..."
Yes and that (for arguments sake lets say £30) buys you around 150 hours worth of gameplay so approximately £0.2 / hour. However your restricted to playing within the confines of that games environment and once your 150 hours are done there's not much else to do (I certainly get no enjoyment from replaying). You're also restricted to the media you use for the game, having to play it on pc or console which means the convenience of playing is impacted.
On the other hand I spend £130 on these two pre-orders which gives me something that has no finite life (as I play both standard and wild). I play around 5 hours a week (both standard and wild) so assuming at least one card makes it into the decks I play then over the course of a year this game costs me £0.5 / hour. Taking into account these cards will continue to be used for longer than a year the cost per hour is even less. On top of that I can play it at my convenience on my phone or tablet so the convenience of play is far higher than a traditional AAA game.
So in terms of value, for me at least Hearthstone is far greater than a traditional AAA game. The cost per hour may be a little more but the amount of time I am able to get from my purchase and the convenience of playing more than makes up for it.
Edit: My original maths for the AAA was truly terrible, I hope no one saw it...
Arguing on the internet is like playing chess with a pigeon. You may be good at chess, but the pigeon is just going to knock all the pieces down, take a shit on the table, and strut around like its victorious.
Considering what's been going on lately, this is actually a pretty smart move on their part. With the back to back taverns of time and fire festival we've been getting double gold for almost a month now. This means that players feel like they are getting more out of the game and are thus more likely to spend money on it. The mega bundle with a well liked character skin just pushes it over the top so people feel ok spending money on the bundle. Complain about it all you want, my point is this really isn't that surprising of a move.
OP is so obviously right. I’ve pre-ordered every time and always felt a bit cheated after opening them all because I still have tons of epics and legendaries missing.
The mega-bundle is ludicrous and for the first time since Beta I am not pre-ordering at all.
right now is easier to get all legendaries than all epics. have this problem on koft
Sad creatures going on message boards and complaining about how people spend their money. Get a life. Blizzard did a good thing giving us options. When it comes to the skin, if you want it buy it. If not, don't buy it. And don't be hating on the people that bought it. It's cosmetic and doesn't affect your experience, besides giving you some sort of childish jealousy whenever you face mecha-jaraxxus.
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This is objectively false. There are the same number of epics as legendaries. Seeing as epics are packed more than twice as often, and one fourth the dust, they are easier to acquire.
Anger is the punishment we give ourselves for someone else's mistake.
You get dupliacte epics you don't get duplicate legendaries until you have all anymore. Every set I am missing way more epics than legendaries so it is not false. The dust cost is irrelevant as at the end of the set you are more likely to be missing a lot more good epics than good legendaries.
I have decided not to buy any of the welcome bundles this time.
-Mecha Jaraxxus is cool in concept, but watching his emotes made me very disappointed! It was just a slight variation on the normal Lord Jaraxxus, which I know too well already. Step it up, guys! You can't expect mech heroes to take off that easily in Hearthstone even though they might sell a lot in HotS.
-Buying cards for real money is far too expensive, and even the bundles do not give enough content for my money. It is too easy to call something a "value" offer when the prices are off the charts to begin with. I have saved up enough gold and dust to get some good new decks anyway.
-Please offer more big bundles, but slash the price per pack in half! And if you offer heroes, do a better job with them!
Editor of the Heartpwn Legendary Crafting Guide:
https://www.hearthpwn.com/forums/hearthstone-general/card-discussion/205920-legendary-tier-list-crafting-guide
True, I had 5x Bladed Gauntlet.
FoIn general buying card packs is expensive like hell...
You can argue that you play this game very long time, you can divide your money by hours played etc... But is is still very expensive
For 80 eur I can have 2-3 new games on PS4 .. 50e for 50 packs - I can have 1 brand new or 2 maybe half year old games (Always prefer 1 game and 100 hours of fun... it is more than 50 packs that containg maybe 2 random legendary cards)
Forcing players to pay 80 for mecha Jaraxus is nonsense.. I cant understand why someone is paying this
Do you really think blizz can retain its playerbase if everyone can get all the cards for 50$. I personally wouldnt if that was the case. Its the same game since 2013. Its a collectible card game, people need to feel invested on it, you need to dangle some carrot to f2p or low spending player, the motivation to play and earn gold for a shiny new deck.
Yes, I do. 100 or even 150 packs for €50 sounds perfectly reasonable to me. You still would not get the complete set. Also, it would make buying the bundles a more sensible opion for players who do not want to grind.
The efforts they put in to retain a playerbase, like giving more gold for quests, making them easier and special events are working out well, but the incetives to make the players spend money are too bad.
Editor of the Heartpwn Legendary Crafting Guide:
https://www.hearthpwn.com/forums/hearthstone-general/card-discussion/205920-legendary-tier-list-crafting-guide
In their defense.
We rolled from Toki quests which had great gold and dust rewards and were super easy, straight into Rags fire fest with double gold quests.
By the time the new cards drop I should have 70 or more packs. For free, just for playing. Normally I can get between 45 and 50 for free between each new expansion but this time round they have made it far nicer for budget/ f2p players to accrue a lot of gold.
So I am 10 packs short on the super bundle so as long as you don't want the skin you really don't need it this time around. Who knows if they will keep this trend up because if they do I might just go free to play, 70 packs and my dust pile is enough every expansion for me.
Then let the whales be whales and do what they do best.
Also this
I am not saying that you are wrong to be upset, but it is a bit incorrect to say that all heroes before have been free. Almost all of them have involved some investment, either time, money or both
Anyways, I think you are within your right to want other ways to get at Mecha-Jaraxxus, and arguably every one of the heroes, but I don't think that they have to be free. They are rewarded as part of the marketing and promotional strategy for Hearthstone (cross sell for Liadrin, incentive to attend live evernts with Nemsy, get friend to play with Morgl), and with this one a reward for preorder. All of these are fine in my opinion, but I think that players should have the option to purchase all of the heroes with either real money or in game currency afterwards.
tl;dr - None of the heros are really free (time or money investment required) and not all are even available globally, Blizz should make them available and purchaseable within the client with $$ or Gold.