They’re gonna milk this game as much as possible until Artifact and Gwent 1.0 comes out aren’t they? It was bad enough that they were charging $50 to preorder loot boxes, but now there’s a second preorder option, the Mega Bundle.
For those who don’t know, the regular preorder bundle is $50, and comes with 50 cardpacks, the Mecha-Jaraxxus cardback, and a free golden legendary card.
Now the Mega Bundle on the other hand is $80! What do you get for 80? You still get the cardback and golden legendary, but instead of 50 cardpacks you get 80, as well as an alternate Warlock hero portrait: Mecha-Jaraxxus.
That’s it. That’s all you get. For $30 more dollars you get a few more glorified loot boxes and a skin. $80 for a hero portrait, and it’s one that the majority of people will want too. This is beyond ridiculous. For two years they have been offering hero portraits for free where we had to do something to get them, like play WoW, or go to a Fireside Gathering, or beat Frozen Throne. They were all great. But now, they’ve locked a skin of a very popular character behind a $80 preorder paywall, that once the expansion launches you can’t get it anymore. They also said there are no plans to rerelease Mecha-Jaraxxus, so anyone who wanted to get that skin are out of luck.
I cannot fathom how ludicrous this is. $80 and all they’re offering is a skin, a skin that is highly popular. I know why they did it too, because they know people love Jaraxxus so they made him an expensive preorder bonus.
I beg you, do not buy this Mega Bundle. Vote with your wallet. Show ActiBlizz this is too far and horribly anti-consumer.
EDIT
So there's been a lot of the same comments in this thread just boggle my mind. There are people actually defending this awful bundle. So I'm gonna address every frequent comment that I've been seeing.
It's a good deal! 80 packs for $80!
First of all, it's asinine to even preorder loot boxes to begin with, but on face value, $80 for 80 packs does sound good when usually the preorders are 50 packs for $50. However, all that became null and void when the Witchwood came out. Witchwood's preorder wasn't the usual 50 packs for $50, it was 70 packs! The moment they did that bundle, a bundle a lot of people loved might I add, it makes the other preorder bundles look like shit in comparison.
Not only that, but $80 for what is ultimately a preorder for loot boxes is absurd. You know what could be done with $80? You could get a shitload of Steam games, games that are not on sale, right now, and still have money left over. You could get two $40 Nintendo Switch games. Ultimately, $80 for 80 packs is pretty crazy. 100 packs or more would've been better, or maybe include some more Golden Legendaries. Speaking of...
But you get a Golden Legendary in the Mega Bundle, which becomes any Legendary you want!
You also get one in the normal $50 preorder as well, making that part of the bundle ultimately irrelevant.
The hero portrait is ugly anyway!
Okay, what does that have to do with it? That's pretty subjective.
You're not entitled to the hero portrait anyway!
Ah yes, the classic "entitled" argument. The ultimate strawman of any shill when they can't think of any else to say.
Who cares? It's just cosmetic
Then why do Casinowatch loot boxes sell like hotcakes? Why did people make a big deal about Nemsy? Guess it's not "just cosmetic" or else people wouldn't give a shit about them. Cosmetics are fun, they let people look differently, and that's why people like them. But besides, that, is for the past two years we were getting this shit for free. When the $10 hero portraits weren't selling, Actiblizz gave them out for free instead as rewards, and people really liked that. Now we have a hero portrait that is locked behind a limited time $80 preorder paywall, so once the preorder is gone that hero portrait cannot be earned anymore. They know people really want Mecha-Jaraxxus since Jaraxxus is one of the most popular Hearthstone characters, and people want Warlock portraits, so they made him a preorder incentive. GET HIM BEFORE HE'S GONE FOREVER!
The argument ultimately is more about the fact the hero portrait is locked to the $80 preorder. I could make the argument all day that it's a waste to preorder loot boxes and how the Mega Bundle is not so Mega, but the fact of the matter is a hero portrait is locked behind a steep preorder paywall. Why is that a big deal? Because we've been getting them for free for the past two years, and if people buy this (Which most likely they will judging from the comments I'm seeing here and on Reddit) then ActiBlizz will start doing more of these "Mega Bundles." Hero portraits will become locked to preorders and we won't get them for free anymore, for these bundles will make so much money, and because people didn't stop and say "no."
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Here we go again...
But you can buy both the Mega Bundle and regular preorder and get TWO Golden Legendaries!
...do you even understand how absurd your comment is? You’re spending $130 to preorder loot boxes twice. What the fuck is wrong with you?
OP stop bitching and get a job! Who can’t afford $80?
Money is not an issue I assure you. It’s not about who has the money to buy the bundle. It’s about a sense of worth. Myself and many others personally don’t find the Mega Bundle worth $80, especially since they’re locking a hero portrait to it when we used to get them for free.
Well I’m gonna buy it anyway
And these were the comments I were looking for. The comments who support the toxicity of preorder culture without giving it a second thought, then bitch when they get terrible legendaries. These are the true Blizzshills, the ones who are loyal to the brand and will defend it tooth and nail. And the funny thing is they’re paying to be shills, trying to make their ludicrous investment worth it. I suggest you watch this video by the late Totalbiscuit on why preordering (even if it offers a slightly better deal) is always a terrible idea.
EDIT 3
Wow. This has been the most divisive thread I have ever made here. There’s a shitload of toxic comments (some by me I’ll admit) but a lot of positive ones as well. Thanks guys for all the replies.
Now a lot of people have been still calling me “entitled” or saying it’s a good deal, or don’t understand what the problem is. So I’m gonna post some tl;dr bullet points at the bottom. But first, I wanna address all those who call me entitled.
First of all, I have never preordered. Never. Not for video games, and definitely not for cardpacks. I have always been against preordering, even if you get more packs. Ultimately face value, you don’t get much from preordering. What do you get? 10 more packs? That may seem like a good deal, but let’s be honest it’s highly unlikely you won’t get anything good in those ten extra packs anyway, because again, you’re preordering loot boxes. Same thing with the Mega Bundle, it’s literally just the regular preorder but more expensive. “But you get a golden legendary!” Like I said, you get one in the regular preorder as well. $80 just for one golden legendary when the $50 bundle gives you the same thing is pretty cheap don’t you think? Like, they couldn’t give you three golden legendaries instead for paying $80?
But besides the fact the Mega Bundle is just an overglorified version of the regular bundle, the main issue ultimately is the fact a new hero portrait is locked to the limited time $80 bundle. Hero portraits for two years have been free rewards, and now suddenly one has gone back to being paid, and it’s a steep paywall no less for they know people want Mecha-Jaraxxus. People say it’s just cosmetic, but the thing is those cosmetics used to be free, and now we got one that isn’t and is most likely not gonna return. (And if it does, it’ll most likely be exclusive for China just like Khadgar.)
Look, I may not be able to change your mind about preordering (because it’s a terrible business practice and always has been.) But at the very least I wanna tell you the Mega Bundle isn’t worth it, mainly because we have a hero locked to it. What if we don’t get free heroes as much anymore as they start charging for heroes again in these big bundles? We got free heroes because we told Blizzard charging $10 for heroes was too much and we didn’t buy them, so now they’re trying to tie them in with expensive preorders instead, making them appear as a bonus when it’s just extortion. That’s why this is a big deal. That’s why we need to say no and not buy the Mega Bundle. We’re the only ones who can make Blizzard stop by voting with our wallets.
tl;dr
A new hero portrait is locked to a limited time $80 preorder when we used to get heroes for free
If people buy this bundle it would give ActiBlizz incentive to do more and tie more heroes to them.
I TOLD YOU SO!
“Hallow’s End also marks the arrival of a friendly new Paladin Hero who will be available for purchase as a part of a special deal!”
They’re gonna milk this game as much as possible until Artifact and Gwent 1.0 comes out aren’t they? It was bad enough that they were charging $50 to preorder loot boxes, but now there’s a second preorder option, the Mega Bundle.
For those who don’t know, the regular preorder bundle is $50, and comes with 50 cardpacks, the Mecha-Jaraxxus cardback, and a free golden legendary card.
Now the Mega Bundle on the other hand is $80! What do you get for 80? You still get the cardback and golden legendary, but instead of 50 cardpacks you get 80, as well as an alternate Warlock hero portrait: Mecha-Jaraxxus.
That’s it. That’s all you get. For $30 more dollars you get a few more glorified loot boxes and a skin. $80 for a hero portrait, and it’s one that the majority of people will want too. This is beyond ridiculous. For two years they have been offering hero portraits for free where we had to do something to get them, like play WoW, or go to a Fireside Gathering, or beat Frozen Throne. They were all great. But now, they’ve locked a skin of a very popular character behind a $80 preorder paywall, that once the expansion launches you can’t get it anymore. They also said there are no plans to rerelease Mecha-Jaraxxus, so anyone who wanted to get that skin are out of luck.
I cannot fathom how ludicrous this is. $80 and all they’re offering is a skin, a skin that is highly popular. I know why they did it too, because they know people love Jaraxxus so they made him an expensive preorder bonus.
I beg you, do not buy this Mega Bundle. Vote with your wallet. Show ActiBlizz this is too far and horribly anti-consumer.
Alternatively, don't buy it b/c it's just a cosmetic skin...
Alternatively, don't buy it b/c it's just a cosmetic skin...
Did you miss the part where I mentioned it was a cosmetic skin that people actually really want? It's for Warlock, and it's Jaraxxus as a cyborg. They knew Jaraxxus was a popular character, hence why they locked him behind a preorder paywall instead of letting us unlock him a different way, which is odd since we got Arthas as a free unlock.
Man I hate to get a new preorder option next to the option I already had. Now I have to choose if I go for the old option, new option, both or none. That's two times the options I previously had! It's way too much. Blizzard has gone too far!
So you are mad that instead of getting a max of 50 packs in the 1/1 ratio you can choose to get 80 and a skin with it ?? You say they used events to the skins could you please tell what was Magni Event?? Or any of the 3 that you pay for it + a cardback ?? Its really good getting 80 for 80 or even 130 for 130, its worse than last expansion, and thats sad, but its just like every other expansion.
There are folks who buy packs past the pre-order. That is they buy 50 packs, then buy more packs on top of it. The folks who buy 400 packs to get EVERYTHING are perfect examples.
For them this is a good deal since you can only buy the pre-order once. It's effectively saying "You can buy the preorder twice. If you do, you get a hero skin."
For everyone else, you can just stick to the $50 pre order. The only issue is that instead of 20 packs like last time ou get a golden legendary which is actually pretty close (1600 value instead of 2000) but still a hit.
In an age of "augment your pre-order" and "Pre order the battle pass and get temporary stuff" on a $60 game, this is mild. It's also a F2P game.
That last bit is BIG. To be honest, Star wars battlefront 2's original mechanics were..just slightly below average for a F2P game. Fire Emblem Heroes does a similar thing except they are more generous with the cash shop currency. But even then battlefront 2 EA isn't BAD bad for a F2P.
It's that it's a $60 game. With pre-orders. And ULTIMATE BUNDLES. And they locked made Luke/Darth hard too get (In tpicall F2P, you could restart till you get a 5 star, or just be given one for free).
For F2Pers this means nothing. There's no reason to assume they have gotten greedier until we see how they handle the free packs just before release.
For folks who bought the pre order normally this means.. a little since Golden Legendary isn't as generous as the 20 packs. But it's close and it's still better than when they gave you nothing special. Rage over wanting the 20 packs back so they can try to change it but that's pretty much it.
If you bought packs AND bought the pre-order, this is Blizzard giving you a bonus. You now get to buy the pre order twice which is the best way to buy packs.
If you just want a reason to hate Activision Blizzard, there's many other ways to do so that warrant a ragefest. Screaming over an alternative deal on a F2P game that helps part of the community and means bugger all to the rest is not a good use of Rage capital ,and focusing on stuff like this means less time to focus on the real issues.
Man I hate to get a new preorder option next to the option I already had. Now I have to choose if I go for the old option, new option, both or none. That's two times the options I previously had! It's way too much. Blizzard has gone too far!
I know right! It's absolutely absurd how they are providing us with more options, one of which costs more. I can't imagine why in the world a company would charge it's customers more D: , profitization is a SIN & they should be punished!
Sry but you are going way to far. What should Blizzard do, charge 80$ for a hero people don‘t want?
They have to make their product attractive, they are a company after all. As long as they don‘t release a pre order super op legendary or some crap like that there is no problem. If course people really want a mecha jaraxxus, but people really want lamborghinis instead of vw golfs as well. Or really nice pizza with great toppings instead of a soggy one with nothing on it. Whenever you offer something that people really desire it‘s okay to charge more for it as long as nobody has to buy it to not be in a disadvantage.
Hero skin being locked behind huge paywall is ridiculous.
See this.. THIS is a better thing to fuss over.
It IS rather meh to require $80 to get it. I'm not bothered by it but I can see arguments about the matter. Perhaps if they allowed you to buy it separately that would work better and let the deal be a way to get him 'for FREEEEE!!!!1111one',
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They’re gonna milk this game as much as possible until Artifact and Gwent 1.0 comes out aren’t they? It was bad enough that they were charging $50 to preorder loot boxes, but now there’s a second preorder option, the Mega Bundle.
For those who don’t know, the regular preorder bundle is $50, and comes with 50 cardpacks, the Mecha-Jaraxxus cardback, and a free golden legendary card.
Now the Mega Bundle on the other hand is $80! What do you get for 80? You still get the cardback and golden legendary, but instead of 50 cardpacks you get 80, as well as an alternate Warlock hero portrait: Mecha-Jaraxxus.
That’s it. That’s all you get. For $30 more dollars you get a few more glorified loot boxes and a skin. $80 for a hero portrait, and it’s one that the majority of people will want too. This is beyond ridiculous. For two years they have been offering hero portraits for free where we had to do something to get them, like play WoW, or go to a Fireside Gathering, or beat Frozen Throne. They were all great. But now, they’ve locked a skin of a very popular character behind a $80 preorder paywall, that once the expansion launches you can’t get it anymore. They also said there are no plans to rerelease Mecha-Jaraxxus, so anyone who wanted to get that skin are out of luck.
I cannot fathom how ludicrous this is. $80 and all they’re offering is a skin, a skin that is highly popular. I know why they did it too, because they know people love Jaraxxus so they made him an expensive preorder bonus.
I beg you, do not buy this Mega Bundle. Vote with your wallet. Show ActiBlizz this is too far and horribly anti-consumer.
EDIT
So there's been a lot of the same comments in this thread just boggle my mind. There are people actually defending this awful bundle. So I'm gonna address every frequent comment that I've been seeing.
First of all, it's asinine to even preorder loot boxes to begin with, but on face value, $80 for 80 packs does sound good when usually the preorders are 50 packs for $50. However, all that became null and void when the Witchwood came out. Witchwood's preorder wasn't the usual 50 packs for $50, it was 70 packs! The moment they did that bundle, a bundle a lot of people loved might I add, it makes the other preorder bundles look like shit in comparison.
Not only that, but $80 for what is ultimately a preorder for loot boxes is absurd. You know what could be done with $80? You could get a shitload of Steam games, games that are not on sale, right now, and still have money left over. You could get two $40 Nintendo Switch games. Ultimately, $80 for 80 packs is pretty crazy. 100 packs or more would've been better, or maybe include some more Golden Legendaries. Speaking of...
You also get one in the normal $50 preorder as well, making that part of the bundle ultimately irrelevant.
Okay, what does that have to do with it? That's pretty subjective.
Ah yes, the classic "entitled" argument. The ultimate strawman of any shill when they can't think of any else to say.
Then why do Casinowatch loot boxes sell like hotcakes? Why did people make a big deal about Nemsy? Guess it's not "just cosmetic" or else people wouldn't give a shit about them. Cosmetics are fun, they let people look differently, and that's why people like them. But besides, that, is for the past two years we were getting this shit for free. When the $10 hero portraits weren't selling, Actiblizz gave them out for free instead as rewards, and people really liked that. Now we have a hero portrait that is locked behind a limited time $80 preorder paywall, so once the preorder is gone that hero portrait cannot be earned anymore. They know people really want Mecha-Jaraxxus since Jaraxxus is one of the most popular Hearthstone characters, and people want Warlock portraits, so they made him a preorder incentive. GET HIM BEFORE HE'S GONE FOREVER!
The argument ultimately is more about the fact the hero portrait is locked to the $80 preorder. I could make the argument all day that it's a waste to preorder loot boxes and how the Mega Bundle is not so Mega, but the fact of the matter is a hero portrait is locked behind a steep preorder paywall. Why is that a big deal? Because we've been getting them for free for the past two years, and if people buy this (Which most likely they will judging from the comments I'm seeing here and on Reddit) then ActiBlizz will start doing more of these "Mega Bundles." Hero portraits will become locked to preorders and we won't get them for free anymore, for these bundles will make so much money, and because people didn't stop and say "no."
EDIT 2
Here we go again...
...do you even understand how absurd your comment is? You’re spending $130 to preorder loot boxes twice. What the fuck is wrong with you?
Money is not an issue I assure you. It’s not about who has the money to buy the bundle. It’s about a sense of worth. Myself and many others personally don’t find the Mega Bundle worth $80, especially since they’re locking a hero portrait to it when we used to get them for free.
And these were the comments I were looking for. The comments who support the toxicity of preorder culture without giving it a second thought, then bitch when they get terrible legendaries. These are the true Blizzshills, the ones who are loyal to the brand and will defend it tooth and nail. And the funny thing is they’re paying to be shills, trying to make their ludicrous investment worth it. I suggest you watch this video by the late Totalbiscuit on why preordering (even if it offers a slightly better deal) is always a terrible idea.
EDIT 3
Wow. This has been the most divisive thread I have ever made here. There’s a shitload of toxic comments (some by me I’ll admit) but a lot of positive ones as well. Thanks guys for all the replies.
Now a lot of people have been still calling me “entitled” or saying it’s a good deal, or don’t understand what the problem is. So I’m gonna post some tl;dr bullet points at the bottom. But first, I wanna address all those who call me entitled.
First of all, I have never preordered. Never. Not for video games, and definitely not for cardpacks. I have always been against preordering, even if you get more packs. Ultimately face value, you don’t get much from preordering. What do you get? 10 more packs? That may seem like a good deal, but let’s be honest it’s highly unlikely you won’t get anything good in those ten extra packs anyway, because again, you’re preordering loot boxes. Same thing with the Mega Bundle, it’s literally just the regular preorder but more expensive. “But you get a golden legendary!” Like I said, you get one in the regular preorder as well. $80 just for one golden legendary when the $50 bundle gives you the same thing is pretty cheap don’t you think? Like, they couldn’t give you three golden legendaries instead for paying $80?
But besides the fact the Mega Bundle is just an overglorified version of the regular bundle, the main issue ultimately is the fact a new hero portrait is locked to the limited time $80 bundle. Hero portraits for two years have been free rewards, and now suddenly one has gone back to being paid, and it’s a steep paywall no less for they know people want Mecha-Jaraxxus. People say it’s just cosmetic, but the thing is those cosmetics used to be free, and now we got one that isn’t and is most likely not gonna return. (And if it does, it’ll most likely be exclusive for China just like Khadgar.)
Look, I may not be able to change your mind about preordering (because it’s a terrible business practice and always has been.) But at the very least I wanna tell you the Mega Bundle isn’t worth it, mainly because we have a hero locked to it. What if we don’t get free heroes as much anymore as they start charging for heroes again in these big bundles? We got free heroes because we told Blizzard charging $10 for heroes was too much and we didn’t buy them, so now they’re trying to tie them in with expensive preorders instead, making them appear as a bonus when it’s just extortion. That’s why this is a big deal. That’s why we need to say no and not buy the Mega Bundle. We’re the only ones who can make Blizzard stop by voting with our wallets.
tl;dr
I TOLD YOU SO!
“Hallow’s End also marks the arrival of a friendly new Paladin Hero who will be available for purchase as a part of a special deal!”
Alternatively, don't buy it b/c it's just a cosmetic skin...
Did you miss the part where I mentioned it was a cosmetic skin that people actually really want? It's for Warlock, and it's Jaraxxus as a cyborg. They knew Jaraxxus was a popular character, hence why they locked him behind a preorder paywall instead of letting us unlock him a different way, which is odd since we got Arthas as a free unlock.
Skin aside, 80 for 80 is a good deal + 1 Golden Legendary + card back. Its smart and I was hoping they would do something like this.
I agree, this is too much.
deal is ok... the fact they know that many people who wouldn't buy the mega pre-order will do it because of the hero skin... is what is un-cool...
Man I hate to get a new preorder option next to the option I already had. Now I have to choose if I go for the old option, new option, both or none. That's two times the options I previously had! It's way too much. Blizzard has gone too far!
You are my spirit animal !
So you are mad that instead of getting a max of 50 packs in the 1/1 ratio you can choose to get 80 and a skin with it ?? You say they used events to the skins could you please tell what was Magni Event?? Or any of the 3 that you pay for it + a cardback ?? Its really good getting 80 for 80 or even 130 for 130, its worse than last expansion, and thats sad, but its just like every other expansion.
There are folks who buy packs past the pre-order. That is they buy 50 packs, then buy more packs on top of it. The folks who buy 400 packs to get EVERYTHING are perfect examples.
For them this is a good deal since you can only buy the pre-order once. It's effectively saying "You can buy the preorder twice. If you do, you get a hero skin."
For everyone else, you can just stick to the $50 pre order. The only issue is that instead of 20 packs like last time ou get a golden legendary which is actually pretty close (1600 value instead of 2000) but still a hit.
In an age of "augment your pre-order" and "Pre order the battle pass and get temporary stuff" on a $60 game, this is mild. It's also a F2P game.
That last bit is BIG. To be honest, Star wars battlefront 2's original mechanics were..just slightly below average for a F2P game. Fire Emblem Heroes does a similar thing except they are more generous with the cash shop currency. But even then battlefront 2 EA isn't BAD bad for a F2P.
It's that it's a $60 game. With pre-orders. And ULTIMATE BUNDLES. And they locked made Luke/Darth hard too get (In tpicall F2P, you could restart till you get a 5 star, or just be given one for free).
For F2Pers this means nothing. There's no reason to assume they have gotten greedier until we see how they handle the free packs just before release.
For folks who bought the pre order normally this means.. a little since Golden Legendary isn't as generous as the 20 packs. But it's close and it's still better than when they gave you nothing special. Rage over wanting the 20 packs back so they can try to change it but that's pretty much it.
If you bought packs AND bought the pre-order, this is Blizzard giving you a bonus. You now get to buy the pre order twice which is the best way to buy packs.
If you just want a reason to hate Activision Blizzard, there's many other ways to do so that warrant a ragefest. Screaming over an alternative deal on a F2P game that helps part of the community and means bugger all to the rest is not a good use of Rage capital ,and focusing on stuff like this means less time to focus on the real issues.
One does not simply walk into Mordor,
unless they want to be the best they can be.
Completely agree, this bundle costs a HUNDRED dollars in Canada... that's just ridiculous and I feel insulted
I am against this of course. But the reality is: no money = no fun (for Blizzard too)
The goal of all life is death.
Do they specify anywhere that it is strictly bundle hero?
The goal of all life is death.
The good thing about HS is that its F2P.
You can be competitive and reach high legend ranks without paying a single dollar.
I'm a f2p player since 2015 and I can play any deck I want. Don't really care about new hero portraits and shiny cardbacks
As long as the game stays fairly playable as F2P, i don't care if they make thousands dollars bundles, and i see no reason to complain.
I just hope the extra resources are used for smart design to support new players experience.
Hero skin being locked behind huge paywall is ridiculous.
this
I know right! It's absolutely absurd how they are providing us with more options, one of which costs more. I can't imagine why in the world a company would charge it's customers more D: , profitization is a SIN & they should be punished!
Sry but you are going way to far. What should Blizzard do, charge 80$ for a hero people don‘t want?
They have to make their product attractive, they are a company after all. As long as they don‘t release a pre order super op legendary or some crap like that there is no problem. If course people really want a mecha jaraxxus, but people really want lamborghinis instead of vw golfs as well. Or really nice pizza with great toppings instead of a soggy one with nothing on it. Whenever you offer something that people really desire it‘s okay to charge more for it as long as nobody has to buy it to not be in a disadvantage.
See this.. THIS is a better thing to fuss over.
It IS rather meh to require $80 to get it. I'm not bothered by it but I can see arguments about the matter. Perhaps if they allowed you to buy it separately that would work better and let the deal be a way to get him 'for FREEEEE!!!!1111one',
One does not simply walk into Mordor,
unless they want to be the best they can be.