Tweeks are probably only useful at higher ranks where the meta is less volatile. If you really want to reach new ranks, make sure the deck you're using is tier 1-2 and of the latest iteration. If that doesn't work, you are probably playing your decks wrong. Post decklist and stats if you have them if you want us to take a look. If you don't have them, I highly recommend playing with a deck tracker
Edit: Token druid and odd pally have the same critical weakness of whirlwind effects. For this reason, they are more highly rated in tournaments than on ladder because you can ban warlock and sweep. If you are facing lots of warlock and warrior, no amount of good plays or good lists can save you. Best change to a different deck
Well those are pretty good decks, if you are losing with them, try changing things until you get something that works. For example, with odd paladin you could try using leeroy (or taking him out if you already have him in). Maybe try out void rippers. Just muck around with it until you get something that works.
I haven’t gotten to the level of using a deck tracker. I usually play on an iPad. Do I need to use a pc to use a deck tracker?
how do you know what a tier 1 deck is? I’ve looked at disguised toast, hearthpwn, tophearthstonedecks, tempostorm, and they all list different decks as tier 1.
Yeah, those are good decks, and besides the few control decks you’re playing, you should out-aggro the other decks. I agree with what the others said, but I would also watch streamers play these decks to get a feel for what they are doing properly to win, so you can understand their thought process.
Hit me up on Twitter @ShockiiHS. I’m currently doing free coaching for the last week of the season. If you’re interested I’d be more than happy to get you where you want to be. Looking forward to hearing from you. Peace ^^)
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Interesting comment on odd pally and token Druid, night crawler. Your right, I do struggle against warrior and warlocks defile a lot.
Well statistically, token druid and odd pally's winrate vs warrior and warlock are in the 20% and 30% range. Your druid is also highly unfavored vs taunt druid. It's no surprise you cannot climb if these are popular around your rank and I think you should address this issue before triharding with decktrackers and getting good (Or just give up until next expansion if you want to save dust ... or try again next season and hope the warlocks got bored and swapped to something else). I know the tier list services can't seem to agree what is good right now, but they should agree on what isn't. Just make sure what you pick next isn't some Kibler meme and you should be fine
Also make sure to stay away from even shaman as well. It has about the same weaknesses and strengths as odd pally and token druid. In the future, you should avoid crafting archetypes that overlap in matchups to dodge this problem (unless you're rich enough to craft every meta deck or find those decks fun)
Just counter queue whatever you're running into. I've tried sticking with one deck and banging my head against a wall but in a rock-paper-scissors meta like this one, how you win is by getting good matchups, not by playing better.
I tried really, really hard to make even warlock work, but the deck is terrible for me because I queue into a ton of taunt druid. My bad luck with queueing pretty much dictated I can't play that deck. So I switched to playing taunt druid myself because I feel like I can win the mirror matchup pretty easily and it worked and I climbed ranks with no problem since then.
I got to legend and rank 5 area most of the time when I dont have time, almost always with meta coumter deck. You see everyone like sheeps and I sunk them like ships.
People play same decks thinking tier 1 will bring theme legend, but the formula is to play good.
Make less mistake
Know all your opponent decks and know the win condition to counter it.
Watch the opening hand switch and during the game.
Stick to one deck and learn it good and tech on higher rank.
Use deck tracker if needed, not a must. But can show you your win rate, so you know you are advancing with a good rate and what oppponent you win the most. Again not a must, and there are few out there.
Play fast deck at start if you are a person that tilt fast and impatience.
Take breaks
Again, counter meta. It works for me every time.
It takes many games to advance especially from 5 to legend.
Many other tips contact me private.
Enjoy the GAME.
It is not a shame to play non rank games you know.
It is a game that not good for you if you have always the fear of losing. Play every game slowlly and think.I play overwatch if I get tired of hearthstone, and I play this game from early 2014. For me after getting the legend cardback goal the game somehow relexed on me a bit back then, cause I am competitive person maybe something have withit too.
for the past few months the farthest I’ve been able to reach is level 7. I’d like to reach level 5.
What do you do when you get stuck? Tweak your deck, try a whole new deck, watch videos on your deck choice? What has worked for you?
I always do this:
1. Watch my deck being played by great streamers.
2. Make 1-2 tweaks that opponents don't expect, so won't be prepped with a counter for, if I'm being countered a lot. I played odd pally a lot this season, and deck tweaks were highly responsible for blasting through ranks 8-5. I would've got there anyway, but I got there a lot faster thanks to the swapped cards designed to counter common foes at each rank.
3. Play arena - this may sound weird, but arena forces you to play decks to their max potential and sharpens your plays. Tilting in ranked and going to arena brings me back to ranked with a more pragmatic playstyle, and more effective plays.
4. Don't play if you don't expect to win. If you play with a shit mindset, you will lose.
5. Vicious Syndicate - I was only introduced to this recently by members of this forum, and boy is this a great site for HS. Their data reaper report gives you really granular data about the ladder, which is invaluable as you climb and the meta changes.
Last thing - don't stop playing at rank 5. Skill up. It may sound stupid, but the level is quite good around there, and playing games at those ranks is risk free, but exposes you to better players, which in turn will make your next season easier.
Good luck dude!
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for the past few months the farthest I’ve been able to reach is level 7. I’d like to reach level 5.
What do you do when you get stuck? Tweak your deck, try a whole new deck, watch videos on your deck choice? What has worked for you?
Usually it's a good idea to stick with the same deck, and make minor tweaks depending what decks you're facing. What have you been using?
I think I know what I'm talking about.
I’ve been playing odd pally and token Druid.
What are the main decks you’ve been facing on ladder?
There is a lot of variety. Even warlock, kingsbane rogue, odd rogue, odd pally, quest warrior, control warrior, taunt Druid, to name a few.
Tweeks are probably only useful at higher ranks where the meta is less volatile. If you really want to reach new ranks, make sure the deck you're using is tier 1-2 and of the latest iteration. If that doesn't work, you are probably playing your decks wrong. Post decklist and stats if you have them if you want us to take a look. If you don't have them, I highly recommend playing with a deck tracker
Edit: Token druid and odd pally have the same critical weakness of whirlwind effects. For this reason, they are more highly rated in tournaments than on ladder because you can ban warlock and sweep. If you are facing lots of warlock and warrior, no amount of good plays or good lists can save you. Best change to a different deck
Legend with : S65 Freeze Mage, S57 Maly Gonk Druid, S57 "Okay" Shaman, S53 Boom-zooka Hunter, S53 Maly Tog Druid, S52 Wild Tog Druid ft.Blingtron, S50 Quest Rogue, S49 Dead Man's Warrior, S41 Wild Clown Fiesta Druid, S41 Hadronox Jade Druid, S40 Wild OTK Dragon Druid, S35 SMOrc Shaman, S33 Jade Druid, S22 Control Priest, S19 Control Priest
Well those are pretty good decks, if you are losing with them, try changing things until you get something that works. For example, with odd paladin you could try using leeroy (or taking him out if you already have him in). Maybe try out void rippers. Just muck around with it until you get something that works.
I think I know what I'm talking about.
I haven’t gotten to the level of using a deck tracker. I usually play on an iPad. Do I need to use a pc to use a deck tracker?
how do you know what a tier 1 deck is? I’ve looked at disguised toast, hearthpwn, tophearthstonedecks, tempostorm, and they all list different decks as tier 1.
Yeah, those are good decks, and besides the few control decks you’re playing, you should out-aggro the other decks. I agree with what the others said, but I would also watch streamers play these decks to get a feel for what they are doing properly to win, so you can understand their thought process.
Interesting comment on odd pally and token Druid, night crawler. Your right, I do struggle against warrior and warlocks defile a lot.
Both decks are strong. Both decks have the same matchup weaknesses (mentioned by others above).
It is also too late in the month to learn a new deck and expect it to do better than the decks you know.
So hang tough. And pray for less Warlocks.
Hit me up on Twitter @ShockiiHS. I’m currently doing free coaching for the last week of the season. If you’re interested I’d be more than happy to get you where you want to be. Looking forward to hearing from you. Peace ^^)
-Those who do not understand true pain, can never understand true peace.-
Well statistically, token druid and odd pally's winrate vs warrior and warlock are in the 20% and 30% range. Your druid is also highly unfavored vs taunt druid. It's no surprise you cannot climb if these are popular around your rank and I think you should address this issue before triharding with decktrackers and getting good (Or just give up until next expansion if you want to save dust ... or try again next season and hope the warlocks got bored and swapped to something else). I know the tier list services can't seem to agree what is good right now, but they should agree on what isn't. Just make sure what you pick next isn't some Kibler meme and you should be fine
Also make sure to stay away from even shaman as well. It has about the same weaknesses and strengths as odd pally and token druid. In the future, you should avoid crafting archetypes that overlap in matchups to dodge this problem (unless you're rich enough to craft every meta deck or find those decks fun)
Legend with : S65 Freeze Mage, S57 Maly Gonk Druid, S57 "Okay" Shaman, S53 Boom-zooka Hunter, S53 Maly Tog Druid, S52 Wild Tog Druid ft.Blingtron, S50 Quest Rogue, S49 Dead Man's Warrior, S41 Wild Clown Fiesta Druid, S41 Hadronox Jade Druid, S40 Wild OTK Dragon Druid, S35 SMOrc Shaman, S33 Jade Druid, S22 Control Priest, S19 Control Priest
Just counter queue whatever you're running into. I've tried sticking with one deck and banging my head against a wall but in a rock-paper-scissors meta like this one, how you win is by getting good matchups, not by playing better.
I tried really, really hard to make even warlock work, but the deck is terrible for me because I queue into a ton of taunt druid. My bad luck with queueing pretty much dictated I can't play that deck. So I switched to playing taunt druid myself because I feel like I can win the mirror matchup pretty easily and it worked and I climbed ranks with no problem since then.
I stuck in rank 10 the entire month then I try a meme murlock rogue deck and get rank 5. ^^
could you send a link to that deck?":)))
I got to legend and rank 5 area most of the time when I dont have time, almost always with meta coumter deck. You see everyone like sheeps and I sunk them like ships.
People play same decks thinking tier 1 will bring theme legend, but the formula is to play good.
Make less mistake
Know all your opponent decks and know the win condition to counter it.
Watch the opening hand switch and during the game.
Stick to one deck and learn it good and tech on higher rank.
Use deck tracker if needed, not a must. But can show you your win rate, so you know you are advancing with a good rate and what oppponent you win the most. Again not a must, and there are few out there.
Play fast deck at start if you are a person that tilt fast and impatience.
Take breaks
Again, counter meta. It works for me every time.
It takes many games to advance especially from 5 to legend.
Many other tips contact me private.
Enjoy the GAME.
It is not a shame to play non rank games you know.
It is a game that not good for you if you have always the fear of losing. Play every game slowlly and think.I play overwatch if I get tired of hearthstone, and I play this game from early 2014. For me after getting the legend cardback goal the game somehow relexed on me a bit back then, cause I am competitive person maybe something have withit too.
Cheers
Join the plague : play Mrggggl Mage.
take a break, leave the computer and comeback with a fresh mind. make some minor tweaks to fit your meta and grind again.
I always do this:
1. Watch my deck being played by great streamers.
2. Make 1-2 tweaks that opponents don't expect, so won't be prepped with a counter for, if I'm being countered a lot. I played odd pally a lot this season, and deck tweaks were highly responsible for blasting through ranks 8-5. I would've got there anyway, but I got there a lot faster thanks to the swapped cards designed to counter common foes at each rank.
3. Play arena - this may sound weird, but arena forces you to play decks to their max potential and sharpens your plays. Tilting in ranked and going to arena brings me back to ranked with a more pragmatic playstyle, and more effective plays.
4. Don't play if you don't expect to win. If you play with a shit mindset, you will lose.
5. Vicious Syndicate - I was only introduced to this recently by members of this forum, and boy is this a great site for HS. Their data reaper report gives you really granular data about the ladder, which is invaluable as you climb and the meta changes.
Last thing - don't stop playing at rank 5. Skill up. It may sound stupid, but the level is quite good around there, and playing games at those ranks is risk free, but exposes you to better players, which in turn will make your next season easier.
Good luck dude!
I wasn't planning on going for a run today. But those cops came out of nowhere.