Hi all,

So I strolled on down to Tempostorm to check out the updated tier list, and was extremely surprised to see the top two tiers being the below.

I can somewhat understand the way that Warlock is ranked, as I saw it do well quite high up on the ladder, but Mircale Rogue and Shudderwock Shammy Tier 1? Odd Paladin, bottom of Tier 2, and not in Tier 1? Even Shaman not in Tier 1?

I've seen the latter two decks constantly at the top of the daily win rates on here, so I just wanted to get the take of the forum on these latest rankings - do they really reflect the current state of the meta?

Peace x

Agreed, tempostorm is terrible at their job

Quote from Burberry >>

No, tempostorm always sucked at evaluating the meta. Only trust vicious sindacate

 Thanks for the tip, the meta report looks waaaay more sensible on there. 15%+ Druid players though, woah.

So checking out Vicious Syndicate, it looks like Spell Hunter and Odd Rogue are faring the best, am I reading this right?

I believe that TS's meta snapshot is more subjective, as to what the TS team find at legend mostly.

VS's meta snapshot, as well as hsreplay, base their studies on objective data coming from matches played by thousands of players, across all ranks and compiled through their respective programs. I believe in this ones more.

i.e. VS puts Shudder in 12-9-8 (in all ranks, 1-4 and legend respectively) so it's not that bad at all atm.

The meta will vary according to the rank, the week, and the decks that dominate. When a deck goes up, others will prey on it, and so on.

Nope they are the most frequent (ie most netdecked decklist). Taunt warrior seem to be the most powerful deck in the current meta according to them (all rank included)

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Nope they are the most frequent (ie most netdecked decklist). Taunt warrior seem to be the most powerful deck in the current meta according to them (all rank included)

 Ah ok, duh, should've read the axis more carefully. Taunt Warrior? Madness... I think I've come across 1 so far in ranks 14-10.

If you want an accurate portrayal of the emta check ViciousSyndicate. Their lasts Data Reaper report explains the whole meta pretty much perfectly.

TempoStorm is jsut straight-up nonsense some of the time. Remember the time when reynoodle was salty during KoFT and just listed all Druid decks as tier 1, even Malygos druid, which wasn't even actually played at all.

Wouldn't really trust HSreplay too much, since their statistics seem to be flawed at some points (like how after the nerfs their tier list showed OTK Paladin as a tier 1 deck with over 55% winrate, but when you actually clicked on it the top winrate decks listed were just pre-nerf even lists with Call to Arms stilll included)

Also, TempoStorm doesn't get updated that frequently - that's why I personally use HSreplay. With the current state of the meta and so many decks "fighting" for a spot in T1 lists - stuff changes on a daily basis - you can't rely on TempoStorm :/.

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Quote from Astreal >>

Nope they are the most frequent (ie most netdecked decklist). Taunt warrior seem to be the most powerful deck in the current meta according to them (all rank included)

 Ah ok, duh, should've read the axis more carefully. Taunt Warrior? Madness... I think I've come across 1 so far in ranks 14-10.

I've played since day 1 and don't know how I've never used VS, it's actually been instantly helpful in switching to the right deck as I've climbed up the ladder today and I've been able to watch the right decks (that I don't have) be played on YouTube to get a better feel of what I need to counter, BEFORE I actually face it. The info is insanely accurate, no cost compared to HSReplay premium. I'm literally never checking Tempostorm or Metabomb again XD

Thanks again all, gem of a tip. Will remember to recommend this one first and foremost to anyone starting out. Great stuff to put into a beginners guide amongst other things, if there isn't already one with this in it.