I always find it funny when people that netdeck cubelock bitch about it being nerfed. its been the best deck since the Raza nerf and there is literally no bad matchups for cubelock.
0 % win rate against baku hunter,tempo mage and quest rogue, yeah no bad matchups at all :D
You better have some proof to back up that claim. Maybe you had a 0% winrate with cubelock against those decks.
I always find it funny when people that netdeck cubelock bitch about it being nerfed. its been the best deck since the Raza nerf and there is literally no bad matchups for cubelock.
0 % win rate against baku hunter,tempo mage and quest rogue, yeah no bad matchups at all :D
You better have some proof to back up that claim. Maybe you had a 0% winrate with cubelock against those decks.
Yeah I mean I know he was being hyperbolic, but it's nowhere near 0 and losing a total of 8 healing out of the crazy amount they already have currently isn't going to change much. Plus baku hunter basically is non-existant in my experience anymore, at least not above rank 5.
They definitely should have nerfed Kobold Librarian as well - one of the most powerful one-drops ever.
I mean, seriously, can you imagine any deck of any class (with the exception of even or freak decks such as spell hunter and big priest) that wouldn't like to play 2 Kobold Geomancers?
They definitely should have nerfed Kobold Librarian as well - one of the most powerful one-drops ever.
I mean, seriously, can you imagine any deck of any class (with the exception of even or freak decks such as spell hunter and big priest) that wouldn't like to play 2 Kobold Geomancers?
I always find it funny when people that netdeck cubelock bitch about it being nerfed. its been the best deck since the Raza nerf and there is literally no bad matchups for cubelock.
0 % win rate against baku hunter,tempo mage and quest rogue, yeah no bad matchups at all :D
You better have some proof to back up that claim. Maybe you had a 0% winrate with cubelock against those decks.
will 30% win rate change the fact that it's really bad matchup? :) i have like 25% win rate against those decks with my control warlock, i can't imagine with dark pact nerf now
Dark Pact nerf is completely justified imo. The argument for original 8 life heal was that having to sacrifice one's minion was a considerable sacrifice, that's not the case with either lackey or a cube holding 2 voidlords. If you still want to keep the original spirit of the card, an alternative nerf/change could have been to heal you for the amount of HP the minion had, which probably would have killed the card completely as 2 hp heal from lackey would suck.
BrokenCubeLock player spoted. The only reason because cubelock does not have the best winrate is because every deck has tech against it or it's a direct counter. Despite of that it still rules the meta and you think it has been nerfed too much just because the "usual" combo has been delayed 1 turn and 1 mana heal 8 hp now heals 4hp. Cube combo still does solid 15 dmg and please let's not talk about gulan dk.
I think Warlock nerf was reasonable but I would have rebalanced the nerf. Dark Pact as is is fine. Sacrificing a minion is a big price to pay. Rather, I would have liked Dark Pact to stay the sameand to see Lackey nerfed to 7 mana.
They definitely should have nerfed Kobold Librarian as well - one of the most powerful one-drops ever.
I mean, seriously, can you imagine any deck of any class (with the exception of even or freak decks such as spell hunter and big priest) that wouldn't like to play 2 Kobold Geomancers?
Maybe was if they nerf the warlock DK, without that and the nerfs in Cta, QR and Spiteful warlocks still reign supreme.
The DK after the nerfs will be the more powerful and impossible to match with any card in the game, the meta will be warlock vs warlock vs warlock until the next nerfs or the other classes get something amazing in next expansion.
Why this insanely OP broken card remain untouched after two balance changes is something beyond any reason, logic or excuse.
To me, guldan is the problem. Sure, at 10 mana, he's the most expensive DK, but his hero power is borderline OP, if not already OP. Also, his battlecry provides way too much value. I understand he costs 10 mana, but that doesn't matter. I would much rather have seen a guldan nerf here.
The only reason they didn't nerf this deck to the ground more is that nerfing Gul'Dan and Voidlords would be way more dust refunded. They opted for the common card nerfs. You got off lucky and I can't wait for your reign to end. This deck will still be fringe T1/2 anyway unless aggro truly takes over.
DK warlock (after the nerf of CtA) will be the more broken OP card in this game history, only pre-nerf version of some cards can be compared and for some reason escape again from the most deserved nerf of all time.
What they waiting for? A week before rotation like f...... Patches?
Cube and doomguard were bigger problems than dark pact. I can get on board with the lackey nerf, and I think that guldan could have been nerfed to dealing 2 damage. I played renolock to legend in wild this season, and I'll still be using lackey, but dark pact will be removed.
Doomguard needs to be 4 attack, cube 6 mana, DK down to 2 attack. Renolock died in 2018 because of nagalock and a hyper aggro meta :( Used to hit rank 5+ with it in 2017.
I think it's appropriate, but I am concerned that they didn't nerf paladin enough. That class is just totally busted right now, and I don't know why we haven't heard more complaints about it.
They needed to nerf sunkeeper to 8 mana along with warlock DK to 2 damage.
To me, guldan is the problem. Sure, at 10 mana, he's the most expensive DK, but his hero power is borderline OP, if not already OP. Also, his battlecry provides way too much value. I understand he costs 10 mana, but that doesn't matter. I would much rather have seen a guldan nerf here.
Me too and I main warlock. He's the most OP late game card in Hearthstone history. Warlocks will just cut dark pact and lacky for some beefy taunts.
I liked Cube Lock for the first few months, I even played and liked it. Now I'm freakin sick of it, I would have nerfed Guldan personnally so I acautally wished they 100% killed the deck.
They definitely should have nerfed Kobold Librarian as well - one of the most powerful one-drops ever.
I mean, seriously, can you imagine any deck of any class (with the exception of even or freak decks such as spell hunter and big priest) that wouldn't like to play 2 Kobold Geomancers?
So control actually gets a good one drop, among the myriad of extremely strong glass cannon 1 drop minions that aggro and tempo decks have, and you want to nerf it? Lol you're funny.
I think it was needed. Not necessarily a nerf to that one specific card in that one specific way, but just the nerf to the lackey wouldn't have been enough to drop the deck.
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lol no
They definitely should have nerfed Kobold Librarian as well - one of the most powerful one-drops ever.
I mean, seriously, can you imagine any deck of any class (with the exception of even or freak decks such as spell hunter and big priest) that wouldn't like to play 2 Kobold Geomancers?
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Dark Pact nerf is completely justified imo. The argument for original 8 life heal was that having to sacrifice one's minion was a considerable sacrifice, that's not the case with either lackey or a cube holding 2 voidlords. If you still want to keep the original spirit of the card, an alternative nerf/change could have been to heal you for the amount of HP the minion had, which probably would have killed the card completely as 2 hp heal from lackey would suck.
BrokenCubeLock player spoted. The only reason because cubelock does not have the best winrate is because every deck has tech against it or it's a direct counter. Despite of that it still rules the meta and you think it has been nerfed too much just because the "usual" combo has been delayed 1 turn and 1 mana heal 8 hp now heals 4hp. Cube combo still does solid 15 dmg and please let's not talk about gulan dk.
I will crush you!
I think Warlock nerf was reasonable but I would have rebalanced the nerf. Dark Pact as is is fine. Sacrificing a minion is a big price to pay. Rather, I would have liked Dark Pact to stay the sameand to see Lackey nerfed to 7 mana.
When spellbreakesr leave the meta, Edwin will rule again.
The nerfs are completely fair, in my opinion.
To me, guldan is the problem. Sure, at 10 mana, he's the most expensive DK, but his hero power is borderline OP, if not already OP. Also, his battlecry provides way too much value. I understand he costs 10 mana, but that doesn't matter. I would much rather have seen a guldan nerf here.
The only reason they didn't nerf this deck to the ground more is that nerfing Gul'Dan and Voidlords would be way more dust refunded. They opted for the common card nerfs. You got off lucky and I can't wait for your reign to end. This deck will still be fringe T1/2 anyway unless aggro truly takes over.
No I don't think so. The nerfs are good, but I think they should also nerf DK's life steal (in addition to the nerfs)
I liked Cube Lock for the first few months, I even played and liked it. Now I'm freakin sick of it, I would have nerfed Guldan personnally so I acautally wished they 100% killed the deck.
nope. to hell with that shit
I think it was needed. Not necessarily a nerf to that one specific card in that one specific way, but just the nerf to the lackey wouldn't have been enough to drop the deck.