I've never been a fan of netdecking as it promotes a game culture devoid of creativity and learning. This is especially apparent in Hearthstone where players can get to rank 5 with brainless play as long as they netdeck the right aggro deck.
if you're not netdecking, you're putting yourself at a disadvantage since why would you play something that is categorically weaker than something else
Not necessarily. Some of the best decks aren't netdecks. The problem with netdecking isn't that it means everyone's playing the TOP decks. It's that everyone is playing the SAME decks. I want to see VARIETY in my opponents. If I play 20 games in a night, I want to see 18-20 different decks, not 3-4.
Then play a different game, because that's all you'll get in this one
if you're not netdecking, you're putting yourself at a disadvantage since why would you play something that is categorically weaker than something else
Not necessarily. Some of the best decks aren't netdecks. The problem with netdecking isn't that it means everyone's playing the TOP decks. It's that everyone is playing the SAME decks. I want to see VARIETY in my opponents. If I play 20 games in a night, I want to see 18-20 different decks, not 3-4.
if you're not netdecking, you're putting yourself at a disadvantage since why would you play something that is categorically weaker than something else
Not necessarily. Some of the best decks aren't netdecks. The problem with netdecking isn't that it means everyone's playing the TOP decks. It's that everyone is playing the SAME decks. I want to see VARIETY in my opponents. If I play 20 games in a night, I want to see 18-20 different decks, not 3-4.
Usually the "top decks" are discovered/built by pros who play 6 or more hours a day at legend rankings, during the beginning stages of an expansion.
It's kind of silly to assume you know what the "best decks" are more than someone who has a sample size of 100+ games with most decks.
Which is exactly why you need to accept the fact that you will be playing meta decks if you actually care about the competitive side of this game. If you don't, that's fine, but that doesn't mean you can be judgemental towards people who do. Some people play card games for the memes, others actually enjoy the strategy involved in higher level gameplay, match ups etc.
There is no doubt in my mind that even that component would be even better if netdecking didn't exist(since you add a new layer of complexity to competitive gameplay) but that's just not happening.
I hate netdecking and I hate doing it. I love creating my own decks and winning with them.
But, and in this meta more than any other, you've got to netdeck a little just to keep pace. I've lost 5 games in a row against Cubelock and Paladin this morning by using my own decks. There's a reason why people netdeck - it works.
But netdecking isn't the problem. It's card balancing that's the issue. Before WW, the meta was full of Cubelocks and Aggro Paladins. After WW, the meta is full of Cubelocks and Aggro Paladins. To me that's a failure on Blizzard's account, not the playerbase.
if you're not netdecking, you're putting yourself at a disadvantage since why would you play something that is categorically weaker than something else
Because the disadvantage is what makes it challenging and more rewarding. Kicking babies in the face is really easy because most of them are categorically weaker than me, but its kind of a dumb thing to do isn't it?
Netdecking is much less problematic when we have a balanced meta like now, there is not the "supreme OP deck" with 80% winrate anyone brainless can pick and enjoy the easy wins even when the player make many mistakes and missplays.
In a meta like this you have to know how to play instead compensate the lack of skill with broken cards.
I often use netdecks for inspiration, or confirmation that a core mechanic will work before I craft a card. Anything beyond that takes away a core part of what makes the game fun- the deckbuilding. By experimenting around with new takes on established archetypes, the deck is still usually good, I have more fun, and I often get to catch the meta off guard by not having the same weaknesses as my opponent thinks I have.
The overpowered synergies that funnel everyone into playing a couple of decks is a big problem. It also reduces deck building choices, because at least 12 cards are part of some synergy package.
There should be more cards that are intrinsically useful. This will promote variety in deck building choices.
This is a repeat topic that was covered many times. Saying that net decking shouldn't be a thing at a time where the majority of all games have communities dedicated to finding the optimal play style is rather comical. How about trying to learn the definition of words without access to any form of dictionary. It is a similar comparison. Net decking is not a problem, in fact it gives you an advantage. If 90% (9/10) of players are net decking then you have lists of every card in their deck as well a step by step explanation of how the deck works. Even at live tournaments with physical cards you are allowed to write down the cards you see in your opponents deck. And nothing is stopping players from handing of that information. Just like the deck lists here on heathpwn. Be creative, find new decks, when you find a deck that works and brings you a good win ratio and legend ranking, others will copy your deck and play it. Even if you don't post it online. That is the nature of online gaming
Rollback Post to RevisionRollBack
Cute, ineffective, but cute.
To post a comment, please login or register a new account.
I've never been a fan of netdecking as it promotes a game culture devoid of creativity and learning. This is especially apparent in Hearthstone where players can get to rank 5 with brainless play as long as they netdeck the right aggro deck.
I hate netdecking and I hate doing it. I love creating my own decks and winning with them.
But, and in this meta more than any other, you've got to netdeck a little just to keep pace. I've lost 5 games in a row against Cubelock and Paladin this morning by using my own decks. There's a reason why people netdeck - it works.
But netdecking isn't the problem. It's card balancing that's the issue. Before WW, the meta was full of Cubelocks and Aggro Paladins. After WW, the meta is full of Cubelocks and Aggro Paladins. To me that's a failure on Blizzard's account, not the playerbase.
So, in summary: No, netdecking isn't a problem.
Because the disadvantage is what makes it challenging and more rewarding. Kicking babies in the face is really easy because most of them are categorically weaker than me, but its kind of a dumb thing to do isn't it?
I do not concern myself with problems that have no solution. It is impossible to prevent netdecking.
Anger is the punishment we give ourselves for someone else's mistake.
Netdecking is much less problematic when we have a balanced meta like now, there is not the "supreme OP deck" with 80% winrate anyone brainless can pick and enjoy the easy wins even when the player make many mistakes and missplays.
In a meta like this you have to know how to play instead compensate the lack of skill with broken cards.
I often use netdecks for inspiration, or confirmation that a core mechanic will work before I craft a card. Anything beyond that takes away a core part of what makes the game fun- the deckbuilding. By experimenting around with new takes on established archetypes, the deck is still usually good, I have more fun, and I often get to catch the meta off guard by not having the same weaknesses as my opponent thinks I have.
Net decking isn't a problem.
The overpowered synergies that funnel everyone into playing a couple of decks is a big problem. It also reduces deck building choices, because at least 12 cards are part of some synergy package.
There should be more cards that are intrinsically useful. This will promote variety in deck building choices.
This is a repeat topic that was covered many times.
Saying that net decking shouldn't be a thing at a time where the majority of all games have communities dedicated to finding the optimal play style is rather comical.
How about trying to learn the definition of words without access to any form of dictionary. It is a similar comparison.
Net decking is not a problem, in fact it gives you an advantage. If 90% (9/10) of players are net decking then you have lists of every card in their deck as well a step by step explanation of how the deck works.
Even at live tournaments with physical cards you are allowed to write down the cards you see in your opponents deck. And nothing is stopping players from handing of that information. Just like the deck lists here on heathpwn.
Be creative, find new decks, when you find a deck that works and brings you a good win ratio and legend ranking, others will copy your deck and play it. Even if you don't post it online. That is the nature of online gaming
Cute, ineffective, but cute.