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The mainly problem is playing for the second expansion in a row against the same tier 1 deck, aggro paladin e cubolock, tier 2 spiteful deck and quest rogue. That's make the witchwood expansion useless and the meta boring. Such a shame considering the many good but not that strong decks are available today. 

Why all this trolling about standard big priest? Go try to play the deck without Barnes and then come back here! Spiteful priest is something else, and could be a nerf target.

And that list is far from complete. Zoo/midrange Demonlock, odd hunter, midrange hunter and quest rogue could also be new meta winners.

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If the OP could be more specific, it would be nice!

When nerfs hit, tier 2 decks usually come up to shine, and the decks which specifically targetted old tier 1 decks take a hit with them. Some candidates for NEW tier 1 decks include:

-Shudderwock/battlecry shaman
-Even Shaman
-Aggro mage
-Big spell mage
-Taunt druid
-Odd rogue
-Tempo rogue
-Rush warrior
-Control warrior

Honestly, I don't see the potential problem at all!

 

 Many of those aren't Tier 2. Battlecry Shaman and Control Warrior aren't Tier 2. And some of those like Taunt Druid are pure counter decks. And that's the point.

 

After the nerf hit and something like 60% winrate Tempo Rogue goes off, do we revert to a nerfed Knights of the Frozen Throne meta? Because Hand Druid and Dragon Hunter aren't countering a thing.

Hooray for Big Priest?

 But Tempo Rogue is barely T2 at the moment and Big Priest is dead. You can't devalidate counter decks to those archetypes while simultaneously claiming that Battlecry Shaman and Control Warrior will never be good.

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Why all this trolling about standard big priest? Go try to play the deck without Barnes and then come back here! Spiteful priest is something else, and could be a nerf target.

And that list is far from complete. Zoo/midrange Demonlock, odd hunter, midrange hunter and quest rogue could also be new meta winners.

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Why all this trolling about standard big priest? Go try to play the deck without Barnes and then come back here! Spiteful priest is something else, and could be a nerf target.

And that list is far from complete. Zoo/midrange Demonlock, odd hunter, midrange hunter and quest rogue could also be new meta winners.

 Midrange Zoolock might be a thing if Guldan escapes nerfs.

 

But Odd Hunter is bad according to most analysis sites. It feeds on Cubelock and of that dies so will it.

And Midrange Hunter lost more than it gained on rotation. And it was weak last meta.

And Quest Rogue might be killed.

Blizzard has been murdering decks left and right or letting them die on rotations. And when they create replacements, we get trash like Freeze Shaman or they overcompensate like Midrange Pirate Shaman. This is why I am afraid. We've given so many bad decks, more decks will be nerfed, and whoever survives will be monsters. It's not like we've never had  decks completely dominate metas before.

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the only thing that will happen after the nerfs is that there will be new t1 decks or some already exsisting t1 decks stay the same in power level and people will complain for more nerfs and then it repeats itself

If the nerfs target Quest Rogue and Warlock they will just be replaced by Big Spell Mage and Odd Warrior.

None of the aggro decks will be really effected.

Spiteful and CTA nerfs will make Even Shaman the mid range king.

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I wish noobs would stop using the words "forced archetype".

While I did hate Shutterwock, still do, I do not think anything needs to nerfed in Standard. As for wild, uh.... isn’t it Wild? Maybe just tweak Shuttercock a lil bit? Just a wee bit? Peace. 

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Why all this trolling about standard big priest? Go try to play the deck without Barnes and then come back here! Spiteful priest is something else, and could be a nerf target.

And that list is far from complete. Zoo/midrange Demonlock, odd hunter, midrange hunter and quest rogue could also be new meta winners.

 Midrange Zoolock might be a thing if Guldan escapes nerfs.

 

But Odd Hunter is bad according to most analysis sites. It feeds on Cubelock and of that dies so will it.

And Midrange Hunter lost more than it gained on rotation. And it was weak last meta.

And Quest Rogue might be killed.

Blizzard has been murdering decks left and right or letting them die on rotations. And when they create replacements, we get trash like Freeze Shaman or they overcompensate like Midrange Pirate Shaman. This is why I am afraid. We've given so many bad decks, more decks will be nerfed, and whoever survives will be monsters. It's not like we've never had  decks completely dominate metas before.

Whats your point? Yes, we know there will be some decks that become t1. That happens with any balance change, that doesn't mean there shouldn't be buffs or nerfs. There are lots of T3 and T2 decks at the moment, unless something completely new rises up and crushes everything I think the next meta will at least be a little better than the one we've had for 4 months. 

 

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Ahahah everyone who complains about the current meta hasn t played hearthstone for long. I m talking about Undertaker Hunter meta, Druidstone, Aggro shaman meta, Pirate Warrior and Razakus meta. Did i miss anything?

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Ahahah everyone who complains about the current meta hasn t played hearthstone for long. I m talking about Undertaker Hunter meta, Druidstone, Aggro shaman meta, Pirate Warrior and Razakus meta. Did i miss anything?

 

 Who am I? None of your business...

I just wanna be able to play a game without having to concede turn 6 vs control decks because pretty much EVERY deck relies on one-card tempo swings.

I kinda of just want to be able to play decks that don't have to rely on mana cheating or packing 10 different removals and 12 taunts.

I mean, Jade Druid was annoying as fuck, but at least it gave you a chance to actually play the game. At least you could always HOPE to somehow win the board and beat them. NOw I just have to pray that my opponent just doesn't X card that wins him the game the turn he plays it because board swings are completely out of control right now.