I getting hard downvoted for saying it will be TGT ver 2.0 ... Now we see it is :)
But this forum works just like that. The more you get downvoted, the more you have right :)
Careful, that bandwagon is breaking apart you're jumping on it so hard.
You've actually played all the new cards and have good experience of what the initial witchwood meta will be like? Now we see nothing. Obviously you can't make a statement like that until you've played for at least about 3 weeks post-release. I strongly believe you're very wrong, regardless.
Bold prediction : Cubelock is going to be just fine, like it is right now. It will be strong for e few days, time to refine decks to be able to beat it, and We'll be on our way.
Shudderwock isnt that good its a very complex deck that can easily be countered with Dirty Rat, so if sudderwock becomes popular the rats will become popular too. Mage quest still an otk and people doesnt play it too much.
Shudderwock isnt that good its a very complex deck that can easyly be countered with Dirty Rat, so if sudderwock becomes popular the rats will become popular too.
I'll test out the new meta on day 1 with aggro paladin, which only loses a few key cards. Then hopefully a new archtype becomes viable against Cubelock and go with that, Shaman or whatever. The meta will be Cubelock vs the World.
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I think we can all agree that Warrior will be trash. As for the other classes:
Rogue, Druid, Hunter - Tier 3
Mage, Paladin, Shaman - Tier 2
Warlock, Priest - Tier 1
The reason I put Paladin in Tier 2 is because he loses Murlocks and Dudes synergy; instead he gains midrange buff synergy which is slower, hence more vulnerable to Control. We could also expect some Aggro-Midrange mixes which will prevail.
The other Tier 2 class - Shaman is the most unpopular right now with only 3% on the ladder. Yes he gets a lot of good stuff, but I believe he won't be consistent. Definitely strong, yet sometimes powerless against Control.
Hunter is weakened, however I think he's the dark horse of this expansion. As for now he doesn't have any obvious tools to dominate, but he's got potential.
I will need some time, before I look all of the cards, decide which packages will be strong and make a vague assumption on the possible decks, which will form:
For now I'm certain on the following - Chameleos is a super overrated card. I have flooded the main page with bunch of posts and I have annoyed people more than I have convinced some, but since priest won't get new clears, since they can't draw their cards as consistently as other classes, since we can't disrupt combo decks and make them discard valuable cards anymore (Dirty Rat), since HS is not a game of "I know your cards, that's why I will win" but a game of who has the answer, all of this and more just makes the chameleon really meaningless.
As for Cubelock - well, if control decks have gotten more board clears or ways to stall, then that MU would have been more winnable. I mean, we lost N'Zoth and the value in our decks decreased significantly. And I actually believed that, but when I saw the full set, I also think, that this is the deck, which will ruin others' experience.
About the shaman legendary - amm, what? Are we talking about the same class? That class lacks 1) board clears, 2) draws and what not. The legendary is strong, but an OTK deck? This sounds like a making a big set-up, which shamans won't achieve in standard. Just look at the cards and tell me how exactly the OTK deck will look. I saw the current "popular" list and I don't find anything special about it. There are many slow cards. Guys, didn't you learn that relying on a single card to win you the game won't work. Such strategies tend to fall apart, because you can't reliably draw all of your combo pieces - this is more obvious in shaman.
Shudderwock isnt that good its a very complex deck that can easily be countered with Dirty Rat, so if sudderwock becomes popular the rats will become popular too. Mage quest still an otk and people doesnt play it too much.
Unfortunately Dirty Rat is rotating out.
Anyway i don't think Shudderwock is nearly as good as it is hyped.
I predict that the cards revealed for the expansion will turn out to be extremely ‘meh!’ And the whole thing will feel like a let down and a knife in the back to those of us who wasted our money on the preorder...
shudderwock seems very ovrrhyped to me. With limited draw (Not even being able to play the gnome drawers as they would pollute the battelcry pool) and unreliable board clears and being behind because of overloads, you'll be dead 3x over by the time you manage to pull off your combo
- Somebody in the world will craft a golden Tess and play burgle rogue until they steal two cataclysms and quit the game.
- Nerfs hit cubelock and shudderwock in June.
Houndmaster shaw will carry the hunter class
Bold prediction : Cubelock is going to be just fine, like it is right now. It will be strong for e few days, time to refine decks to be able to beat it, and We'll be on our way.
A dozen? You mean a hundred? We still get several salty threads a week complaining about KaC
Nice
I guess dark possession will mean that dark pact will be nerfed and meant as a replacement
Nice
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Lady in White's playrate will drop from 10% in the first week to lower than 1% within a month.
people forget n'zoth is rotating so cube lock wont be as strong specially against control decks
1. I'm gonna keep playing underdog classes until i cry, while complaining the meta
2. I'm finaly hitting 500 wins with paladin, with a divine shield buff secret deck while never reaching rank 10 or higher and cry a little more
3. secret mage, murloc paladin en cube lock are going to dominate april 2018
4.Illidan stormrage and questing adventurer are 2 classic cards that will see play in constructed Echo Decks
5. After witchwood a new keyword will be launched and only 1 or 2 rush cards will be printed, ever again.
Lady in White is not meta-defining, even if the majority of people in her card discussion thread think so.
Bad players whine.
Good players adapt.
I'll test out the new meta on day 1 with aggro paladin, which only loses a few key cards. Then hopefully a new archtype becomes viable against Cubelock and go with that, Shaman or whatever. The meta will be Cubelock vs the World.
If you thought you knew what you think I know, then you'd know I knew you knew I know.
I think we can all agree that Warrior will be trash. As for the other classes:
Rogue, Druid, Hunter - Tier 3
Mage, Paladin, Shaman - Tier 2
Warlock, Priest - Tier 1
The reason I put Paladin in Tier 2 is because he loses Murlocks and Dudes synergy; instead he gains midrange buff synergy which is slower, hence more vulnerable to Control. We could also expect some Aggro-Midrange mixes which will prevail.
The other Tier 2 class - Shaman is the most unpopular right now with only 3% on the ladder. Yes he gets a lot of good stuff, but I believe he won't be consistent. Definitely strong, yet sometimes powerless against Control.
Hunter is weakened, however I think he's the dark horse of this expansion. As for now he doesn't have any obvious tools to dominate, but he's got potential.
I will need some time, before I look all of the cards, decide which packages will be strong and make a vague assumption on the possible decks, which will form:
For now I'm certain on the following - Chameleos is a super overrated card. I have flooded the main page with bunch of posts and I have annoyed people more than I have convinced some, but since priest won't get new clears, since they can't draw their cards as consistently as other classes, since we can't disrupt combo decks and make them discard valuable cards anymore (Dirty Rat), since HS is not a game of "I know your cards, that's why I will win" but a game of who has the answer, all of this and more just makes the chameleon really meaningless.
As for Cubelock - well, if control decks have gotten more board clears or ways to stall, then that MU would have been more winnable. I mean, we lost N'Zoth and the value in our decks decreased significantly. And I actually believed that, but when I saw the full set, I also think, that this is the deck, which will ruin others' experience.
About the shaman legendary - amm, what? Are we talking about the same class? That class lacks 1) board clears, 2) draws and what not. The legendary is strong, but an OTK deck? This sounds like a making a big set-up, which shamans won't achieve in standard. Just look at the cards and tell me how exactly the OTK deck will look. I saw the current "popular" list and I don't find anything special about it. There are many slow cards. Guys, didn't you learn that relying on a single card to win you the game won't work. Such strategies tend to fall apart, because you can't reliably draw all of your combo pieces - this is more obvious in shaman.
I predict that the cards revealed for the expansion will turn out to be extremely ‘meh!’ And the whole thing will feel like a let down and a knife in the back to those of us who wasted our money on the preorder...
oh wait...
shudderwock seems very ovrrhyped to me. With limited draw (Not even being able to play the gnome drawers as they would pollute the battelcry pool) and unreliable board clears and being behind because of overloads, you'll be dead 3x over by the time you manage to pull off your combo
1. Shudderwock shaman would kill all control deck.
2. Only the board flooding deck / aggro / fast mid range deck can live, since there is no way to compete with Shudderwock shaman in late game.
3. Lady in White, Dollmaster Dorian, Hagatha the Witch are meme.
4. Odd/Even deck are the freeze shaman in witchwood.
5. Hand druid and Minion heavy mage would be pretty good.
6. Secret Paladin and Burgle Rogue suck.