so i made a eu account awhile ago and just dont get it. I tried to play ranked expecting people to have dumpster decks but faced some pretty standard lists and budget versions of tier 1-2 decks. So i figure maybe i was optimistic let me just run casual and im playing against big priest and again pretty standard lists. I even added a couple guys and they are between 5-16. Can you imagine how frustrated someone that was genuinely new would feel playing against big priest? how does the match making work
exactly why blizzard struggle to get any new players into the game, simply because their greeted with this kind of experience, it's terrible.
No can't get new players ..... only 75 million players world wide.....lol
NEW PLAYERS I said, not accounts made just to get morgl and how many of those accounts are even active now so no there are not 75 million people playing hearthstone, just accounts in blizzards database. lol
go back to defending your precious control/cubelock all over the board like you usually do.
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Shouldnt there be a very basic hard cap. If im playing on an account or class that doesnt have all the basic cards you would think the player pool with comprise of those same kinda people
Personally for me when I first started Hearthstone and got demolished by T1 decks I remember thinking, "Okay...that was some neat stuff. I want those cards!". Not "That was bullshit! How come they have those amazing cards?!".
Personally for me when I first started Hearthstone and got demolished by T1 decks I remember thinking, "Okay...that was some neat stuff. I want those cards!". Not "That was bullshit! How come they have those amazing cards?!".
i dont think anyone has ever thought it was "neat" for there to suddenly be a 5/5 y'shar pulling a 10/10 y'shaar. I actually cleared it because i had dark conviction but y'know. big priest just resummons it
There has to be a area where u can not go against net decks casual is just liked ranked.If I wanted to play ranked I go play ranked but if I just trying to get quest done casual should not have ranked decks in it.
I agree that the new player experience needs to be much better, but there isn't an easy way to filter out new players from experienced players.
Do you set a specific time limit that prevents accounts that are not a certain 'age' to not be able to queue up against decks beyond that time limit? Do you restrict players from playing against accounts that only have a certain percentage of the total collection for the format the player is playing in? What about tweaking the mmr a little somehow?
Which decks would be acceptable to people not to play in casual? Is it tier 1 and 2, or any deck that is considered to be in any tier? HSReplay.net has 26 different deck types in there tier list. Do all those get excluded?
I don't know what the answer is but restricting decks or cards I don't think is it.
Which decks would be acceptable to people not to play in casual? Is it tier 1 and 2, or any deck that is considered to be in any tier? HSReplay.net has 26 different deck types in there tier list. Do all those get excluded?
I don't know what the answer is but restricting decks or cards I don't think is it.
My thoughts exactly. In play plenty of casual games in wild, and even though most of the decks I play are not tier one or tier two I still have gotten salty friend requests when I have beaten people with various combo/OTK decks. My guess is that if tier decks were somehow banished from casual you can sure bet you'd start seeing a crusade against other decks, such as OTK decks, that some players would try to campaign to remove from casual too.
Yea guiz, thatz right. I want to start up hs and have all competitive cards straight away! Paying?? Grinding?? Neveer. I want.. NEED everything others worked so hard for... and i need it NOW! F you blizz. Wow is the same, why dont i get gear veterans got the moment i log in? Just unfair. Lets sue blizz guizz.
As a newbie you hàve 20 first game vs other newbie like you though. Afterthat you get in to the real match making system and start suffer vs endless army of cubelocks, big priest , tempo mage or dude paladin lolz.
so i made a eu account awhile ago and just dont get it. I tried to play ranked expecting people to have dumpster decks but faced some pretty standard lists and budget versions of tier 1-2 decks. So i figure maybe i was optimistic let me just run casual and im playing against big priest and again pretty standard lists. I even added a couple guys and they are between 5-16. Can you imagine how frustrated someone that was genuinely new would feel playing against big priest? how does the match making work
Play Wild imo. I started playing Wild a couple weeks ago and I dont regret it: at least I see a wider variety of decks and it doesnt matter if I have Wild cards or not (I dont).
Because it's a CCG, you actually need cards to play the game, the "free to play" thing is an illusion, it was good at the beginning because people didnt want to buy many packs and taste the water before commiting, so we were all kind of sailing the same boat and it was easy to have fun while grinding packs. Now with all the expansions and the relative fame of the game, people buy lots of packs, craft the meta etc...
HS can be expensive if you want to play it fully. Otherwise it will indeed be a bad experience... like in all CCGs honestly. You don't come into a room full of magic: the gathering players and hope you can compete with 3 starters and 5 boosters, you gonna need a lot more and make some good "trades" (which is replaced by crafting cards in HS).
And if you're looking for the "i don't want to spend a dime on this game" solution the is actually one, it's called grinding arena & you can also complete quests in brawls if the ladder is too hard on you.
I just reached my 1 year anniversary of playing Hearthstone. The new player experience is still reasonably fresh in my mind.
New players grinding in Arena? Only if grinding is referring to what will happen to them. Arena is a good mode and can help build a collection, but new players have to learn the game a little before playing Arena. I dont recommend it to those with less than 3 months playing time. I think there needs to be a new casual mode for new players to gain that experience. One with no incentive for existing players to play it. Because even 10 gold for three wins draws in gold miners. f2p is a disaster for new players. The main problem they have is lack of cards. Restricting yourself on how cards are gained is a fools move. I dont think spending like crazy is a good idea either. But budgeting is a sound plan. After you have a good base of cards and want to go f2p it might work.
You did not have the 'new player experience' because you are, in fact, not a new player. Your knowledge of the game and past experience helped you climb much faster than the typical 'new' player and you likely hit a wall because of not having cards. Real 'new' players will hit a skill wall before then.
As far as the suggestion for a 'noobs only' casual mode, no gold won't be enough to keep out griefers - the salty tears of the noob prey will be reward enough.
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Free to try and find a game, dealing cards for sorrow, cards for pain.
About it: If blizzard wants new players, they need to stop thinking with their wallets in mind, instead create new basic cards for everyone free to get. Every expansion give every class 1 basic card and 6 neutral ones, including a promotion-legendary (like C'thun and Marin, not disenchantable)
15 free cards every expansion; this would make it more interresting for new players. And more players means more money.
The problem is that blizzard doesn't even think farther than their greed in mind.
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so i made a eu account awhile ago and just dont get it. I tried to play ranked expecting people to have dumpster decks but faced some pretty standard lists and budget versions of tier 1-2 decks. So i figure maybe i was optimistic let me just run casual and im playing against big priest and again pretty standard lists. I even added a couple guys and they are between 5-16. Can you imagine how frustrated someone that was genuinely new would feel playing against big priest? how does the match making work
exactly why blizzard struggle to get any new players into the game, simply because their greeted with this kind of experience, it's terrible.
Rumors are carried by haters, spread by fools, and accepted by idiots.
Rumors are carried by haters, spread by fools, and accepted by idiots.
Shouldnt there be a very basic hard cap. If im playing on an account or class that doesnt have all the basic cards you would think the player pool with comprise of those same kinda people
Personally for me when I first started Hearthstone and got demolished by T1 decks I remember thinking, "Okay...that was some neat stuff. I want those cards!". Not "That was bullshit! How come they have those amazing cards?!".
There has to be a area where u can not go against net decks casual is just liked ranked.If I wanted to play ranked I go play ranked but if I just trying to get quest done casual should not have ranked decks in it.
I agree that the new player experience needs to be much better, but there isn't an easy way to filter out new players from experienced players.
Do you set a specific time limit that prevents accounts that are not a certain 'age' to not be able to queue up against decks beyond that time limit? Do you restrict players from playing against accounts that only have a certain percentage of the total collection for the format the player is playing in? What about tweaking the mmr a little somehow?
Which decks would be acceptable to people not to play in casual? Is it tier 1 and 2, or any deck that is considered to be in any tier? HSReplay.net has 26 different deck types in there tier list. Do all those get excluded?
I don't know what the answer is but restricting decks or cards I don't think is it.
On my alt account Morglpls I opened a golden Ozruk, crafted Aluneth mage, and Smorced my way to rank 15.
New player experience in HS right now is to get used to the shiny concede button and the threaten emote
Yea guiz, thatz right. I want to start up hs and have all competitive cards straight away! Paying?? Grinding?? Neveer. I want.. NEED everything others worked so hard for... and i need it NOW! F you blizz. Wow is the same, why dont i get gear veterans got the moment i log in? Just unfair. Lets sue blizz guizz.
As a newbie you hàve 20 first game vs other newbie like you though. Afterthat you get in to the real match making system and start suffer vs endless army of cubelocks, big priest , tempo mage or dude paladin lolz.
Nice
I think there needs to be a new casual mode for new players to gain that experience. One with no incentive for existing players to play it. Because even 10 gold for three wins draws in gold miners.
f2p is a disaster for new players. The main problem they have is lack of cards. Restricting yourself on how cards are gained is a fools move. I dont think spending like crazy is a good idea either. But budgeting is a sound plan. After you have a good base of cards and want to go f2p it might work.
If you are in your first year of playing please read this post.
Dust does not burn a hole in the jar. Be careful what you craft, especially before and right after a rotation.
You did not have the 'new player experience' because you are, in fact, not a new player. Your knowledge of the game and past experience helped you climb much faster than the typical 'new' player and you likely hit a wall because of not having cards. Real 'new' players will hit a skill wall before then.
As far as the suggestion for a 'noobs only' casual mode, no gold won't be enough to keep out griefers - the salty tears of the noob prey will be reward enough.
Free to try and find a game, dealing cards for sorrow, cards for pain.
About it: If blizzard wants new players, they need to stop thinking with their wallets in mind, instead create new basic cards for everyone free to get. Every expansion give every class 1 basic card and 6 neutral ones, including a promotion-legendary (like C'thun and Marin, not disenchantable)
15 free cards every expansion; this would make it more interresting for new players. And more players means more money.
The problem is that blizzard doesn't even think farther than their greed in mind.