the most fun is obviously playing against ridiculous super busted spell mages in casual mode, why the fuck even bother... what a joke. get that shit into ladder and fuck off
also, paladins has been the most boring class to play and play against basically since beta, just bores me silly... just obnoxiously lame and uninteresting. they have like 0 fun mechanics whatsoever
10 matches...8 mages and 2 paladins.Its hard to believe theres so many bandwagon unoriginal douchebags out there.Anyone with any kind of spine or class would have moved on by now.I Had both Lunacy and secret paladin deck(annoying fking pin) the first week of the expansion and dusted both of them.Grow some balls and class and do the same fking pssies.I literally could not take using pin 50 times in a match on play. Mage just felt broke as hell and i couldnt even feel good about my wins with 10 free draws and spells in a row.Now im trapped in a different hell, Waiting for an opponent to play pssy pin 50 times in a match and feel like hes crafty for for doing it.Or my other hell, waiting to die while my mage opponent draws lunacy 90% of the time in opening hand and free draws and spell use 80% of the time with game breaking spells.GG shit show called blizzard coksuckers.Rant over :)
So I'm forced to play Doomhamer shaman for 10 days if I want to not instalose against these stupid mages, but still I instalose to paladin...
Oh what, you still somehow managed to get to Diamond 1 3 stars with a deck that is barely tier 3?
Well guess what we are gonna match you against a full armor warrior, a class it's not even played in this meta . Take that, lose a star. Now face this Heal priest with 30 healing cards in his deck. Oh , lost two stars? Mission acomplished, now you can go back to the paladin/mage grind for another week before you are allowed to hit legend, have fun xDD
I'm done with Hearthstone until they fix Mage, I can't stand it, 7 of 10 games I get Mage and well is a Rng Fiesta, losing for rng most of the time is absolutely disgusting.
I am sure blizzard will be absolutely devastated hearing this.
I can't believe how horribly designed some of the core set is. They could have put ANY card they wanted to in it, but somehow counterspell is still there. And of course, it costs me two important spell casts in a row, and I lose the game to Deck of Lunacy mage.
To say nothing about spell mage. Even my sleek tempo Rogue deck loses to spell mage if they get lucky (which happens... EXTREMELY often).
Actually they get lucky about 50% of the time. All decks do.
I mean no?
I mean Blizzard has a stated goal of an overall 50% win rate.
You guys like... understand the point of this thread, right?
Anyway, lost to a Paladin. Blizzard had two expansions to nerf Pen Flinger, and 3 expansions to do something about all the nonsense in Libram Paladin. Instead they just chose to do... nothing. For like almost a year. Good job.
All of the players using this no skill random lunacy shit hole deck GO and fuck yourselves with your secret paladin friends. Sick of this shit. These are the decks killing the fun in the game. Joke
All of the players using this no skill random lunacy shit hole deck GO and fuck yourselves with your secret paladin friends. Sick of this shit. These are the decks killing the fun in the game. Joke
Thought and skill were removed from the game a long time ago in order to attract and keep new players.
I'm not expecting nerfs to lunacy mage. I completely expect they nerf its face to the ground and delete all those highroll mage's collection with it. Can't stand playing against this.
The card completely delete priest without almost any counter play, the match up would be actually fun and fair without this card.
It's cute that you think priest has any shred of chance against jaraxxus.
J-rax is the classic priest killer. But part of the reason hasn't been played in a while (even after sac pact nerf) was because priest COULD beat Jaraxxus. Priest has Ruin and Soul Mirror now, Res Priest of last expansion would have actually stood a chance. If they get lucky with Lazul or Thoughtsteal priest can even steal Jaraxxus. It would still be an unfavorable matchup, but not the impossible one that it used to be.
That said, current priest probably doesn't have that hope anymore. While all the cards I listed except Lazul are still in standard, now that the res package and Galakrond are gone, Priest doesn't have a win condition anymore so they just lose to basically everything, Jaraxxus included.
I'm not advocating for Res Priest, I'm just as happy to see infiltrator gone as the next guy, I'm just saying that priest is trashy right now with a lot of situational board clears, and equally situational value generation. They don't have card draw so they need a sethekk to stick in order to generate random spells in order to hopefully maybe find a way to respond to what the opponent is doing. They can try neutral packages, but again, no card draw makes priest worse at using those cards than any other class. Paladin has a similar card draw issue, but has always made up for it with cards that have powerful stats and effects for their cost. Control Warlock has a similar issue where they rely heavily on removal, but has crazy amounts of draw with their hero power to get that removal and their win conditions.
Priest's boons are supposed to be "Being able to keep their minions alive" and "Stealing the opponent's tempo" but all of those things are dependent on priest actually drawing the right cards for the situation, which they currently can't do reliably.
Somehow this turned into a rant about priest, but I guess that's what this thread is for.
Can someone tell me how many players playtest the cards they design before it's released? I wonder how terrible balanced the internal meta was during internal playtesting...
And why are they only nerfing and not buffing bad cards... I hate there point of view of fixing the current meta
What they should have is a small army of early-access testers; issue is money and leaks. Problem with testing is that meta is in its essence reactive, which is hard to do if you have only got a handful of people. Some start building decks based on obvious synergies, then decks are created to counter that and then the fine-tuning starts. I don't know what Blizz' capacity is for doing this backwards and forwards. I suspect not huge; their timeline of releases is quite ambitious, every few weeks will be bringing something new. Not a lot of time to design and test properly before release, and they probably have to worry more about squashing bugs and unexpected interactions in the little time they've got.
Can someone tell me how many players playtest the cards they design before it's released? I wonder how terrible balanced the internal meta was during internal playtesting...
And why are they only nerfing and not buffing bad cards... I hate there point of view of fixing the current meta
The meta is constantly changing. If one deck is strong, then people start playing decks that are good against it, then people start playing decks that are good against THAT one, and so on. That said, I'm with you in wondering why they thought things like secret paladin was ok. It doesn't really have any BAD matchups except sometimes mage.
They have buffed cards in the past but that's dangerous because buffing cards can break the game more easily than nerfing cards. See rogue in duels destroying the early games now that quest is unnerfed.
In years of HS i never complained about the meta. Now its really f up imho. More then 50% is playing some brainless lunacy deck. Wtf Blizzard?
When I encounter a lunacy deck now i alt tab and start to do other things. If they don’t want to play a normal deck (imho) the just wait a bit longer....
The only thing good about being stuck at diamond 5 is that I can concede after 3 turns. I can tell with about an 80% accuracy from the mulligan if the system has chosen me to win or lose the game. After 3 turns I know for certain. If I get perfect cards on curve I play it out. If I am drawing the highest cost cards that I will have to sit on while my opponent draws perfect cards I just concede and go on to the next coin toss.
So after being done with ranked until nerfs come, I thought: I'll play casuals so at least I can gain some xp until next week
Played 5 Casual games and surprise surprise....
3 FUCKING LUNACY MAGES
1 TICKATUSLOCK
You must be really RETARDED or BRAINDEAD to bring lunacy mage to casual. Not even Lunacy players stand playing against it so they go to casual to face something else. Well too bad because that mode is infested with that shit already!
So , if I don't want to play against Lunacy I'm forced to just not play the game and lose exp for days! Great design blizz! All because we need to wait a week for a tournament NO ONE ON EARTH cares about. Literally every person watching that grandmaster fiesta was there for pack drops( still haven't received mine)
LITERALLY, UNPLAYABLE GAME.
These Designers need to be FIRED IMMEDIATLY.
A final message to anyone playing Lunacy because they think it's a "FUN DECK" : Seek Mental Help, I mean it. You are NOT a normal person, you degenerate son of a whore.
Just got off work and decided to check some hearthstone out again.My hope was that these Lunacy douchebags would have heard of nerfs coming and decided to back off a little with the mage spam.Unfortunately that doesnt seem to be the case, in fact just the opposite qued 7 times and all 7 were lunacy braindead fking morons.I just auto concede immediately hoping i launch all these fukwits on to higher tiers so i can play in peace.Theres like a nonstop flow of pssy after pssy morons.It astonishes me that these window licking, mouth breathers are still spending real money on something thats getting nerfed(hopefully into oblivion)next week(so they say).Stop spending your mommies money on shit that will not be viable very soon!Who knows how man poles she had to dance on or parking lot bj's she had to endure to get her hard earned money!---Rant over--i feel better.
the most fun is obviously playing against ridiculous super busted spell mages in casual mode, why the fuck even bother... what a joke. get that shit into ladder and fuck off
also, paladins has been the most boring class to play and play against basically since beta, just bores me silly... just obnoxiously lame and uninteresting. they have like 0 fun mechanics whatsoever
10 matches...8 mages and 2 paladins.Its hard to believe theres so many bandwagon unoriginal douchebags out there.Anyone with any kind of spine or class would have moved on by now.I Had both Lunacy and secret paladin deck(annoying fking pin) the first week of the expansion and dusted both of them.Grow some balls and class and do the same fking pssies.I literally could not take using pin 50 times in a match on play. Mage just felt broke as hell and i couldnt even feel good about my wins with 10 free draws and spells in a row.Now im trapped in a different hell, Waiting for an opponent to play pssy pin 50 times in a match and feel like hes crafty for for doing it.Or my other hell, waiting to die while my mage opponent draws lunacy 90% of the time in opening hand and free draws and spell use 80% of the time with game breaking spells.GG shit show called blizzard coksuckers.Rant over :)
Spot on
How do you beat secret paladin? How is this deck not nerfed into oblivion? The tempo from the sword is just insane.
So I'm forced to play Doomhamer shaman for 10 days if I want to not instalose against these stupid mages, but still I instalose to paladin...
Oh what, you still somehow managed to get to Diamond 1 3 stars with a deck that is barely tier 3?
Well guess what we are gonna match you against a full armor warrior, a class it's not even played in this meta . Take that, lose a star. Now face this Heal priest with 30 healing cards in his deck. Oh , lost two stars? Mission acomplished, now you can go back to the paladin/mage grind for another week before you are allowed to hit legend, have fun xDD
You guys like... understand the point of this thread, right?
Anyway, lost to a Paladin. Blizzard had two expansions to nerf Pen Flinger, and 3 expansions to do something about all the nonsense in Libram Paladin. Instead they just chose to do... nothing. For like almost a year. Good job.
It's cute that you think priest has any shred of chance against jaraxxus.
All of the players using this no skill random lunacy shit hole deck GO and fuck yourselves with your secret paladin friends. Sick of this shit. These are the decks killing the fun in the game. Joke
Thought and skill were removed from the game a long time ago in order to attract and keep new players.
I'm not expecting nerfs to lunacy mage. I completely expect they nerf its face to the ground and delete all those highroll mage's collection with it. Can't stand playing against this.
J-rax is the classic priest killer. But part of the reason hasn't been played in a while (even after sac pact nerf) was because priest COULD beat Jaraxxus.
Priest has Ruin and Soul Mirror now, Res Priest of last expansion would have actually stood a chance. If they get lucky with Lazul or Thoughtsteal priest can even steal Jaraxxus. It would still be an unfavorable matchup, but not the impossible one that it used to be.
That said, current priest probably doesn't have that hope anymore. While all the cards I listed except Lazul are still in standard, now that the res package and Galakrond are gone, Priest doesn't have a win condition anymore so they just lose to basically everything, Jaraxxus included.
I'm not advocating for Res Priest, I'm just as happy to see infiltrator gone as the next guy, I'm just saying that priest is trashy right now with a lot of situational board clears, and equally situational value generation. They don't have card draw so they need a sethekk to stick in order to generate random spells in order to hopefully maybe find a way to respond to what the opponent is doing. They can try neutral packages, but again, no card draw makes priest worse at using those cards than any other class.
Paladin has a similar card draw issue, but has always made up for it with cards that have powerful stats and effects for their cost. Control Warlock has a similar issue where they rely heavily on removal, but has crazy amounts of draw with their hero power to get that removal and their win conditions.
Priest's boons are supposed to be "Being able to keep their minions alive" and "Stealing the opponent's tempo" but all of those things are dependent on priest actually drawing the right cards for the situation, which they currently can't do reliably.
Somehow this turned into a rant about priest, but I guess that's what this thread is for.
Some random salty thoughts...
Can someone tell me how many players playtest the cards they design before it's released?
I wonder how terrible balanced the internal meta was during internal playtesting...
And why are they only nerfing and not buffing bad cards... I hate there point of view of fixing the current meta
What they should have is a small army of early-access testers; issue is money and leaks. Problem with testing is that meta is in its essence reactive, which is hard to do if you have only got a handful of people. Some start building decks based on obvious synergies, then decks are created to counter that and then the fine-tuning starts. I don't know what Blizz' capacity is for doing this backwards and forwards. I suspect not huge; their timeline of releases is quite ambitious, every few weeks will be bringing something new. Not a lot of time to design and test properly before release, and they probably have to worry more about squashing bugs and unexpected interactions in the little time they've got.
The meta is constantly changing. If one deck is strong, then people start playing decks that are good against it, then people start playing decks that are good against THAT one, and so on.
That said, I'm with you in wondering why they thought things like secret paladin was ok. It doesn't really have any BAD matchups except sometimes mage.
They have buffed cards in the past but that's dangerous because buffing cards can break the game more easily than nerfing cards. See rogue in duels destroying the early games now that quest is unnerfed.
In years of HS i never complained about the meta. Now its really f up imho. More then 50% is playing some brainless lunacy deck. Wtf Blizzard?
When I encounter a lunacy deck now i alt tab and start to do other things. If they don’t want to play a normal deck (imho) the just wait a bit longer....
The only thing good about being stuck at diamond 5 is that I can concede after 3 turns. I can tell with about an 80% accuracy from the mulligan if the system has chosen me to win or lose the game. After 3 turns I know for certain. If I get perfect cards on curve I play it out. If I am drawing the highest cost cards that I will have to sit on while my opponent draws perfect cards I just concede and go on to the next coin toss.
So after being done with ranked until nerfs come, I thought: I'll play casuals so at least I can gain some xp until next week
Played 5 Casual games and surprise surprise....
3 FUCKING LUNACY MAGES
1 TICKATUSLOCK
You must be really RETARDED or BRAINDEAD to bring lunacy mage to casual. Not even Lunacy players stand playing against it so they go to casual to face something else. Well too bad because that mode is infested with that shit already!
So , if I don't want to play against Lunacy I'm forced to just not play the game and lose exp for days! Great design blizz! All because we need to wait a week for a tournament NO ONE ON EARTH cares about. Literally every person watching that grandmaster fiesta was there for pack drops( still haven't received mine)
LITERALLY, UNPLAYABLE GAME.
These Designers need to be FIRED IMMEDIATLY.
A final message to anyone playing Lunacy because they think it's a "FUN DECK" : Seek Mental Help, I mean it. You are NOT a normal person, you degenerate son of a whore.
Just got off work and decided to check some hearthstone out again.My hope was that these Lunacy douchebags would have heard of nerfs coming and decided to back off a little with the mage spam.Unfortunately that doesnt seem to be the case, in fact just the opposite qued 7 times and all 7 were lunacy braindead fking morons.I just auto concede immediately hoping i launch all these fukwits on to higher tiers so i can play in peace.Theres like a nonstop flow of pssy after pssy morons.It astonishes me that these window licking, mouth breathers are still spending real money on something thats getting nerfed(hopefully into oblivion)next week(so they say).Stop spending your mommies money on shit that will not be viable very soon!Who knows how man poles she had to dance on or parking lot bj's she had to endure to get her hard earned money!---Rant over--i feel better.
I lost to a secret Paladin who pulled Deck of Lunacy off of a Wand Maker off a first day of school. Do I win anything?
My thoughts about Mage in a short video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jh-mxJNBPLg