Evolve shaman is really naughty this year and need a fucking nerf
like anything, weapon at 3 attack would be a good start but I would prefer 6 mana.
Thanks you Santa!
Honestly, I think neither attack nor mana of the weapon is the problem with evolve shaman. The evolve mechanic is meant to be high variance and should be balanced accordingly. The actual problem with evolve shaman is it being waaayyyy too consistent. This has two reasons:
1) Cagematch custodian. This card allows shamans to consistently have at least one copy of the knuckles on curve, which is bad for the balance. It should never have been released during the same rotation as the weapon.
2) Boggspine knuckles affecting the whole friendly side of the board. Since the deck can quite easily vomit 7 minions on the board, you can easily evolve 7 minions with it. And at that point, the variance isn't that much of a problem anymore. There will be some nice evolutions almost all of the time. The weapon should affect 3 random friendly minions, 4 tops. Then the variance would still be quite high. Allowing really good and really bad turns. Also, the shamans would need some additional plans and considerations regarding the rest of their board space, making it a more interesting deck overall.
At least one of those two problems need to be adressed by the developers. In general, I'm not a fan of balance updates that only change mana costs and stats. If an effect seems to be overtuned you might want to adjust the effect itself...
And the other big problem is the pillager. It being actually stronger than the pure paladin dude just doesn't sound right.
Have you tried playing evolve shaman lately? All you see are hyper aggressive face hunters and rogues that kill you by turn 5. They did more than nerf Boggspine. They adjusted the matchmaking system to discourage people from playing it.
Man, I can't even count how many times my Apexis Blast got me a Chromatic Egg or Jandice Barov or that spire thingy that does absolutely nothing by itself.
Must have been his time to get wins for the win-rate balance gods' amusement.
What actually annoys me the most about the dominance that Evolve Shaman had at least before the nerf, is the fact that almost every f***ing deck plays Kobold Stickyfinger now. Just played against a Tickatus Warlock that stole the Sphere of Sapience from my custom Big Warrior. I mean I didn't expect to win that match with my meme deck, but I'm super salty anyway. Basically any deck that relies on weapons got nerfed by the appearance of Evolve Shaman.
I'm starting to believe the matchmaking system is rigged. It is next to impossible to get to Legend from Rank 5 Diamond, not because the game matches you with same skill level (How can this game detect skill level anyways?) but I believe the system in place is actually counter queue. Why else would I get value Mages and Rogues, two of the best classes and decks to beat control decks that I mostly play. And then the moment I switch to a value deck I get matched against alot of aggro, it's so consistent only around Rank 5 Diamond it's too uncanny to be just a coincidence.
The amount of times Power of Creation single handedly won the game against me is staggering. Either from getting the nuts or I just so happen to not have even 1 card out of the plethora of removal in my deck. *sigh* I really wish the card would get nerfed but that's wishful thinking. Hoping they at least print some shitty 6 drops soon...
Evolve shaman is really naughty this year and need a fucking nerf
like anything, weapon at 3 attack would be a good start but I would prefer 6 mana.
Thanks you Santa!
Honestly, I think neither attack nor mana of the weapon is the problem with evolve shaman. The evolve mechanic is meant to be high variance and should be balanced accordingly. The actual problem with evolve shaman is it being waaayyyy too consistent. This has two reasons:
1) Cagematch custodian. This card allows shamans to consistently have at least one copy of the knuckles on curve, which is bad for the balance. It should never have been released during the same rotation as the weapon.
2) Boggspine knuckles affecting the whole friendly side of the board. Since the deck can quite easily vomit 7 minions on the board, you can easily evolve 7 minions with it. And at that point, the variance isn't that much of a problem anymore. There will be some nice evolutions almost all of the time. The weapon should affect 3 random friendly minions, 4 tops. Then the variance would still be quite high. Allowing really good and really bad turns. Also, the shamans would need some additional plans and considerations regarding the rest of their board space, making it a more interesting deck overall.
At least one of those two problems need to be adressed by the developers. In general, I'm not a fan of balance updates that only change mana costs and stats. If an effect seems to be overtuned you might want to adjust the effect itself...
And the other big problem is the pillager. It being actually stronger than the pure paladin dude just doesn't sound right.
Have you tried playing evolve shaman lately? All you see are hyper aggressive face hunters and rogues that kill you by turn 5. They did more than nerf Boggspine. They adjusted the matchmaking system to discourage people from playing it.
And how could you blame them? The only way to deal with winrate-obsessed farming p####s is decrease their actual winrate.
Fucking blizzard cant do NOTHING to remove secret mage from tier 1 wild, bitch ass company promoting aggresive playstyle, hatered and fucking deliberately destroying the game from the inside
Today is the day I made a hearthpwn account just to blow of some steam in this thread.
I am closer to losing my shit than a magma rager is to being useless.
Since the last couple releases this game has gone more and more aggro than ever. Its insane how a game went from actually using your brain to no brain spamming cards while sucking of the RNG gods.
For this I would like to take the opportinuty to stretch a certain finger to my close pals:
The hunter, because fuck you and your secrets
The demonhunter, because who needs minions when you can just smack everything face
And last but not least
The shaman, because he loves to evolve but in the end the only thing he could become was an overal douche cannoo
Salut and respect to all, except you pesky aggro players x)
I'm starting to believe the matchmaking system is rigged. It is next to impossible to get to Legend from Rank 5 Diamond, not because the game matches you with same skill level (How can this game detect skill level anyways?) but I believe the system in place is actually counter queue. Why else would I get value Mages and Rogues, two of the best classes and decks to beat control decks that I mostly play. And then the moment I switch to a value deck I get matched against alot of aggro, it's so consistent only around Rank 5 Diamond it's too uncanny to be just a coincidence.
true , same experience when i play libram paly i get only warlocks against me so they burn half of my deck , when i switch to warlock i meet only zoolocks which are quite hard to counter. in wild i play control deck well here i meet only big priests vs me , when i switch to anti big priest deck i dont meet priest whole day . fuck off blizzard
Why would you tri-hard kill your opponent, if the opponent is clearly trying to get a achievement done and is not a treat at all (not attacking + damaging own face). I've spent the past 3 days farming the YoggChamp achievement. Not once has a enemy player took the time to cast a spell when i'm about to die and he's still at full hp so is at zero risk of dying.
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well , todays experience , coutnerspell is fucking bullshit ( HoF it please ) when this game comes from warcraft lore , where the fuck warlock get a weapon ? NOWHERE , fuck skull of manari ( wild ) from board control mage i have in my signature we are far far away. it is my favourite deck and unplayable in most cases thanks to aggro mage ( yes aggro , not secret , because if somebody plays mana wyrm turn 1 into kabal + secret and kabal + secret next turn and one of those secrets is counterspell how the fuck im supposed to remove it ? when second secret is explosive runes which hit my minion for something and rest goes to my face. thats just lowbrain aggro)
how the hell shaman has to equip such a shitload of weapon when in warcraft only weapon is doomhammer ? and at last , fuck this man who created keymaster alabaster shit. didnt expected wild play ? cool , it is really nice when i cant do anything about what i draw next turn and i draw jaina and my shitty priest enemy plays jaina for 1 mana , meteor for 1 mana , and rag for 1 mana . what a piece of shit u have in head , ban the fucking standart cards from wild already.
this expansion i was 2times in legend and i dont want more. playing battlegrounds and i can throw my own shit on standart and wild atm ..
why ? because matchmaking is fucked up in every game mode. like what the fuck , when i started to play battlegrounds , first 10 games everyone was AFK and only i was the one playing. 10 free wins thats not fun , thats not interactive it is just bullshit , like when 10 foes concedes in standart at me , im okay with that , im climbing somewhere . but the bots in bgs just to make XP. fuck off , make the reward track better and award XP only for wins . or ... remove it totally
getting cards in this game from packs is also pain , for 7600 gold i bought packs , 76 pack opened and i got 2 fucking epics and no legendary..
i was never so frustrated by any game but HS. since B.B is away from dev. team the game sux more and more.
I'm starting to believe the matchmaking system is rigged. It is next to impossible to get to Legend from Rank 5 Diamond, not because the game matches you with same skill level (How can this game detect skill level anyways?) but I believe the system in place is actually counter queue. Why else would I get value Mages and Rogues, two of the best classes and decks to beat control decks that I mostly play. And then the moment I switch to a value deck I get matched against alot of aggro, it's so consistent only around Rank 5 Diamond it's too uncanny to be just a coincidence.
true , same experience when i play libram paly i get only warlocks against me so they burn half of my deck , when i switch to warlock i meet only zoolocks which are quite hard to counter. in wild i play control deck well here i meet only big priests vs me , when i switch to anti big priest deck i dont meet priest whole day . fuck off blizzard
Every aspect of the game is manipulated. Nothing is random.
Evolve shaman is really naughty this year and need a fucking nerf
like anything, weapon at 3 attack would be a good start but I would prefer 6 mana.
Thanks you Santa!
Honestly, I think neither attack nor mana of the weapon is the problem with evolve shaman. The evolve mechanic is meant to be high variance and should be balanced accordingly. The actual problem with evolve shaman is it being waaayyyy too consistent. This has two reasons:
1) Cagematch custodian. This card allows shamans to consistently have at least one copy of the knuckles on curve, which is bad for the balance. It should never have been released during the same rotation as the weapon.
2) Boggspine knuckles affecting the whole friendly side of the board. Since the deck can quite easily vomit 7 minions on the board, you can easily evolve 7 minions with it. And at that point, the variance isn't that much of a problem anymore. There will be some nice evolutions almost all of the time. The weapon should affect 3 random friendly minions, 4 tops. Then the variance would still be quite high. Allowing really good and really bad turns. Also, the shamans would need some additional plans and considerations regarding the rest of their board space, making it a more interesting deck overall.
At least one of those two problems need to be adressed by the developers. In general, I'm not a fan of balance updates that only change mana costs and stats. If an effect seems to be overtuned you might want to adjust the effect itself...
And the other big problem is the pillager. It being actually stronger than the pure paladin dude just doesn't sound right.
Have you tried playing evolve shaman lately? All you see are hyper aggressive face hunters and rogues that kill you by turn 5. They did more than nerf Boggspine. They adjusted the matchmaking system to discourage people from playing it.
And how could you blame them? The only way to deal with winrate-obsessed farming p####s is decrease their actual winrate.
Not true. The best way would be not to make the garbage cards in the first place. They aren't dealing with something they were stuck with. They created those cards.
Faced a face hunter. Drew every counter perfectly on curve. He eventually conceded.
Next game another face hunter. Exact same deck. Drew the absolute worst cards. Dead in 6 turns.
Next game was demon hunter. I was dead in 5 turns. He drew perfect cards of course.
It's like going into a casino and sitting down at a table where either you or the dealer gets blackjack every hand. Boring and I would never play with real money.
How bad does it feel to have some cunt do fuck all and then pull 3 or 4 Obsidian Statues out of nowhere and auto win. Why is Big Priest still a thing. How can it still exist in 2021. Are T5 fucking retarded. At this point it's either incompetence or a middle finger, there is no other option.
Have you tried playing evolve shaman lately? All you see are hyper aggressive face hunters and rogues that kill you by turn 5. They did more than nerf Boggspine. They adjusted the matchmaking system to discourage people from playing it.
This game I played against mage was such horseshit
First of all, he gets Flame Ward turn 3, not even off a tutor card,
He plays Apexis Blast then gets Earth Elemental off it
Then he gets a Counterspell created by Evocation, created by Ring Toss. Should of played around it.
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Man, I can't even count how many times my Apexis Blast got me a Chromatic Egg or Jandice Barov or that spire thingy that does absolutely nothing by itself.
Must have been his time to get wins for the win-rate balance gods' amusement.
What actually annoys me the most about the dominance that Evolve Shaman had at least before the nerf, is the fact that almost every f***ing deck plays Kobold Stickyfinger now. Just played against a Tickatus Warlock that stole the Sphere of Sapience from my custom Big Warrior. I mean I didn't expect to win that match with my meme deck, but I'm super salty anyway. Basically any deck that relies on weapons got nerfed by the appearance of Evolve Shaman.
I’ve faced an aggro DH that was insane, he did skill of Gul’dan twice and with outcast, and killed me with Altruis shenanigans
I would’ve won with my pure paladin if he wasn’t so lucky
also, polkelt nerf was completely pointless, +1 mana for a card that is already played at turn 5 to guarantee discounted Altruis or any combo bullshit
I'm starting to believe the matchmaking system is rigged. It is next to impossible to get to Legend from Rank 5 Diamond, not because the game matches you with same skill level (How can this game detect skill level anyways?) but I believe the system in place is actually counter queue. Why else would I get value Mages and Rogues, two of the best classes and decks to beat control decks that I mostly play. And then the moment I switch to a value deck I get matched against alot of aggro, it's so consistent only around Rank 5 Diamond it's too uncanny to be just a coincidence.
The amount of times Power of Creation single handedly won the game against me is staggering. Either from getting the nuts or I just so happen to not have even 1 card out of the plethora of removal in my deck. *sigh* I really wish the card would get nerfed but that's wishful thinking. Hoping they at least print some shitty 6 drops soon...
Man, i would gladly murder the creator of the matchmaking system. no hesitation.
That fucking prick is the biggest cancer in human history.
Hope you hit your elbow into every fucking piece of furniture ever created. Bitch ass faggot.
CasUaL GaMEmoDe bTw, lets just hardcounter you 5 games in a row. B A L A N C E D
And how could you blame them? The only way to deal with winrate-obsessed farming p####s is decrease their actual winrate.
Fucking blizzard cant do NOTHING to remove secret mage from tier 1 wild, bitch ass company promoting aggresive playstyle, hatered and fucking deliberately destroying the game from the inside
Today is the day I made a hearthpwn account just to blow of some steam in this thread.
I am closer to losing my shit than a magma rager is to being useless.
Since the last couple releases this game has gone more and more aggro than ever. Its insane how a game went from actually using your brain to no brain spamming cards while sucking of the RNG gods.
For this I would like to take the opportinuty to stretch a certain finger to my close pals:
The hunter, because fuck you and your secrets
The demonhunter, because who needs minions when you can just smack everything face
And last but not least
The shaman, because he loves to evolve but in the end the only thing he could become was an overal douche cannoo
Salut and respect to all, except you pesky aggro players x)
true , same experience when i play libram paly i get only warlocks against me so they burn half of my deck , when i switch to warlock i meet only zoolocks which are quite hard to counter. in wild i play control deck well here i meet only big priests vs me , when i switch to anti big priest deck i dont meet priest whole day . fuck off blizzard
Why would you tri-hard kill your opponent, if the opponent is clearly trying to get a achievement done and is not a treat at all (not attacking + damaging own face). I've spent the past 3 days farming the YoggChamp achievement. Not once has a enemy player took the time to cast a spell when i'm about to die and he's still at full hp so is at zero risk of dying.
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well , todays experience , coutnerspell is fucking bullshit ( HoF it please )
when this game comes from warcraft lore , where the fuck warlock get a weapon ? NOWHERE , fuck skull of manari ( wild )
from board control mage i have in my signature we are far far away. it is my favourite deck and unplayable in most cases thanks to aggro mage ( yes aggro , not secret , because if somebody plays mana wyrm turn 1 into kabal + secret and kabal + secret next turn and one of those secrets is counterspell how the fuck im supposed to remove it ? when second secret is explosive runes which hit my minion for something and rest goes to my face. thats just lowbrain aggro)
how the hell shaman has to equip such a shitload of weapon when in warcraft only weapon is doomhammer ?
and at last , fuck this man who created keymaster alabaster shit. didnt expected wild play ? cool , it is really nice when i cant do anything about what i draw next turn and i draw jaina and my shitty priest enemy plays jaina for 1 mana , meteor for 1 mana , and rag for 1 mana . what a piece of shit u have in head , ban the fucking standart cards from wild already.
this expansion i was 2times in legend and i dont want more. playing battlegrounds and i can throw my own shit on standart and wild atm ..
why ? because matchmaking is fucked up in every game mode. like what the fuck , when i started to play battlegrounds , first 10 games everyone was AFK and only i was the one playing. 10 free wins thats not fun , thats not interactive it is just bullshit , like when 10 foes concedes in standart at me , im okay with that , im climbing somewhere . but the bots in bgs just to make XP. fuck off , make the reward track better and award XP only for wins . or ... remove it totally
getting cards in this game from packs is also pain , for 7600 gold i bought packs , 76 pack opened and i got 2 fucking epics and no legendary..
i was never so frustrated by any game but HS. since B.B is away from dev. team the game sux more and more.
Imbawar
Every aspect of the game is manipulated. Nothing is random.
Not true. The best way would be not to make the garbage cards in the first place. They aren't dealing with something they were stuck with. They created those cards.
Faced a face hunter. Drew every counter perfectly on curve. He eventually conceded.
Next game another face hunter. Exact same deck. Drew the absolute worst cards. Dead in 6 turns.
Next game was demon hunter. I was dead in 5 turns. He drew perfect cards of course.
It's like going into a casino and sitting down at a table where either you or the dealer gets blackjack every hand. Boring and I would never play with real money.
How bad does it feel to have some cunt do fuck all and then pull 3 or 4 Obsidian Statues out of nowhere and auto win. Why is Big Priest still a thing. How can it still exist in 2021. Are T5 fucking retarded. At this point it's either incompetence or a middle finger, there is no other option.
final round
Still cannot believe they printed a card like Tickatus.