Hearthpwn

FUCKING BS BATTLEGROUND, CANNOT GET ONE FUCKING GOOD DROP IN 2133423 RE ROLLS NICE M8, EVERYONE RUSHING FOR THE SAME FUCKING OP MINION NUCE M8.

WHY THE FUCKING 4/1 WF ELEMENTAL IS NOT GUTTED YET, HELLLLLO???

Fuck arena. 

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Why are people who don’t believe in big scary conspiracy theories so hostile towards those who do? Funny how these theories always end up being true! The people who believe in them will just say those who don’t believe are just ********. But those anti conspiracists it’s like it eats at there soul they HAVE to be right. You HAVE to think just like them! Lol why? Why are you people literally npcs? Who cares who complains about the rng? Everyone admits and knows it is being manipulated the question always seems to be how much? Let the man think what he wants. Who cares. Stop starting shit because they don’t fall in line with your thinking. I can just imagine how you people are in real life prob pretty sad.

 For the same reason why people are hostile to flat earthers, seeing that much stupidity is pretty triggering.

I got the same kind of comments from fanboys when I spoke about the game reading the board and choosing the best card. They all told me how dumb I was and how that kind of programming was beyond Blizzard's capability. Then ZTG came out and surprisingly all those fanboys went silent. Now they want us to believe that yes Blizzard CAN do that, but they don't. You true believers are the real flat earthers. Ignoring the evidence to believe what you really want to be true. 

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Why are people who don’t believe in big scary conspiracy theories so hostile towards those who do? Funny how these theories always end up being true! The people who believe in them will just say those who don’t believe are just ********. But those anti conspiracists it’s like it eats at there soul they HAVE to be right. You HAVE to think just like them! Lol why? Why are you people literally npcs? Who cares who complains about the rng? Everyone admits and knows it is being manipulated the question always seems to be how much? Let the man think what he wants. Who cares. Stop starting shit because they don’t fall in line with your thinking. I can just imagine how you people are in real life prob pretty sad.

 I’m not an ‘anti-conspiricy theorist’. Some conspiricies have weight to them and until proven wrong I can understand why people would follow them. Blizzard manipulating the game for profit is a fair enough conspiracy to believe in, there is no smoking gun evidence for it but given the predatory nature of gaming publishers (including Activision Blizzard) I can understand why people don’t trust them.

Some of the things Evil_B is posting are verifiably incorrect, though. I know you are desperate for your feelings to be validated but jumping on literally ANYTHING which you feel supports your beliefs is a pretty sure fire way to look stupid. 

Anybody who cannot make Legend just isn’t skilled enough at the game to do so. That’s a fact. They haven’t put enough time into studying the meta, they don’t understand how to mulligan correctly, they have no clue how to hand read, they are usually focused purely on what is happening on the board and not what their opponents will be playing next turn, or the turn after that. “Should I draw cards here or is developing a minion mire important?” “Should I drop my win con now or bait out removal?” Etc

@Evil_B your last comment actually half makes sense. Those things existing DO indicate that Blizzard COULD manipulate the game in nefarious ways. It doesn’t PROVE that they are, however, and it certainly doesn’t explain why you are stuck at Diamond 5 because people who are actually good at the game have no issue sailing into Legend, even on completely fresh accounts, other people’s accounts, old accounts, F2P accounts, P2W accounts, all of it. The only people who cannot make Legend are those who don’t try to, or those who, despite thinking the game is easy, don’t fully understand it.

MMR and a lot of RNG are good ways to jeep everything close to 50/50, you don’t need to rig games. However, to reiterate, Blizzard MAY be doing that. It hasn’t been proven or disproven. Your claims that people cannot make Legend without the game rigging it for them has been disproven countless times however. You could even disprove it yourself if you dropped the act and put some time into really learning how to optimally play the game.

 

 Pro streamer Lifecoach quit playing the game for the very reasons I point out:

"The world's best player can probably have a 5% edge over a good player per game, at the moment, which is ridiculously low. That also reflects the low skill cap."

"We realized how ridiculous the system is, in that it rewards hard grinding. The more games you play, the more reward you get. Skill doesn't really matter. It's quantity over quality. As people who are striving for perfection, that’s actually a really bad thing. It's not about who's playing the best, it's basically about who’s playing the most. I mean, obviously you still have to play well, but quantity weighs way more than quality in this system."

https://www.pcgamer.com/lifecoach-on-quitting-hearthstone-you-dont-get-rewarded-you-get-punched-in-the-face/

That's a pro streamer. I guess he didn't know how to optimally play the game either. 

I'm not going to spend hours and hours waiting for the system to reward me. I have better shit to do with my time. So I bounce from Diamond 5 to 1 and back because I don't play enough to trigger the gateway algorithm. 

I just came here to say Shaman has way too much burst right now. OP

After like ONE hour of tactical countermeasures, the fcking tickifuckitatus won via a RANDOM card. So much skill, so much wow. At least i watched some pron, had some good time and roped him for some season pass score. Or whatever this season whatever battle pass is called in this rip off a game. Oh and i finished two quests.

3 times in the last while I’ve run into a warrior who doesn’t play any cards. He or she uses their hero power at the start of their turn then sit there until they time out. Their hero power button flashes on and off all the while. I take my turn thinking this is some kind of trap but then they repeat the same thing over again. Armor up then time out while their hero power button flashes. This continues until I defeat them. What is this? A malfunctioning bot?.

fanbois: its totally not rigged, its pure random

reality: counter counter counter counter

ok, im smart, ill play a counterdeck now too...

guess what: getting countered...

fanbois: sooo random. did you provide 100 matches to compare?

yes

fanbois: uhm ehm: 100 is way too few, did you have 1000 samples?

yes

fanbois: ehm uhm well like we said, totally random and and and

you SUCK!

Everyone who believes in these conspiracy theories should just learn how to play. And learn mathematics. And stop thinking you are so special and you run into perfect counters all the time. What about players that run into you, huh?

And stop playing netdecks everyone knows how to play against. I made to legend with Stealer of Souls Warlock (in standard) this month and have no problem to reach it every season if I have time to play. Tournament level players or streamers also seem to have no problems about it. Only poor conspiracionists need to explain why they are just not good enough.

Hold up kiddo. Since you are posting after me, i feel addressed. I do NOT play retarded netdecks. I play decks no one else is playing. SELF CRAFTED decks. Do you?

Let me tell you a story from yesterday. I NEVER EVER encountered the card

Firemancer Flurgl

before. But then my opponent got it randomly. And the next turn i got it randomly. And after that match i got that card after i opened a pack. ANd hooooooo lil fanboi, this isnt a onetime experience. I witnessed this MANY times. And i play since beta.

When i try to adapt my deck and add a card NO FUCKING ONE is playing... tada... my enemy is discovering it or is getting it by other "randomness".

When i encounter a card in a brawl i have never seen in live action, TADA,...

And yet, you are like a Qanon covid*, no matter what will tell you, you will believe in your fanboiism. On the contrary, you will even believe stronger in your humbug.

But fine, please stay in the hs universe and dont mess with real life, please.

Well, have you counted times when it doesn't happen. No you have not. Yes, strange coincidences happen and let me tell you - it is normal. Your "this happened and after this this happened and after this, whoaaaa, this happened" could refer to milions of different cases just because you saw something that connects them. But you're deluding only yourself. I know real explanations are boring and dull, but get used to it.

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3 times in the last while I’ve run into a warrior who doesn’t play any cards. He or she uses their hero power at the start of their turn then sit there until they time out. Their hero power button flashes on and off all the while. I take my turn thinking this is some kind of trap but then they repeat the same thing over again. Armor up then time out while their hero power button flashes. This continues until I defeat them. What is this? A malfunctioning bot?.

 Nothing malfunctioning about it, it's a bot that is there just to gain xp by pressing the hero power every turn and waisting as much time as possible.

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Everyone who believes in these conspiracy theories should just learn how to play. And learn mathematics. And stop thinking you are so special and you run into perfect counters all the time. What about players that run into you, huh?

And stop playing netdecks everyone knows how to play against. I made to legend with Stealer of Souls Warlock (in standard) this month and have no problem to reach it every season if I have time to play. Tournament level players or streamers also seem to have no problems about it. Only poor conspiracionists need to explain why they are just not good enough.

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Everyone who believes in these conspiracy theories should just learn how to play. And learn mathematics. And stop thinking you are so special and you run into perfect counters all the time. What about players that run into you, huh?

And stop playing netdecks everyone knows how to play against. I made to legend with Stealer of Souls Warlock (in standard) this month and have no problem to reach it every season if I have time to play. Tournament level players or streamers also seem to have no problems about it. Only poor conspiracionists need to explain why they are just not good enough.

 What  a load of crap.  You reach legend(allegedly) or shall we say the DECK did using broken shit that was even banned in wild.  You want props for this?  The game has no skill involved there, Spanky.  legend is just grinding broken decks.  Thats it.  Anyone that actually thinks  this game takes skill is dumber than probably already expected.  There are no conspiracies - theres just facts: This is a casino-level game with ridiculously Tier-0 decks that "get" people legend.  It means nothing.  Do it without a cancer deck and we'll talk but no one ever does.  Another fact. 

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Everyone who believes in these conspiracy theories should just learn how to play. And learn mathematics. And stop thinking you are so special and you run into perfect counters all the time. What about players that run into you, huh?

And stop playing netdecks everyone knows how to play against. I made to legend with Stealer of Souls Warlock (in standard) this month and have no problem to reach it every season if I have time to play. Tournament level players or streamers also seem to have no problems about it. Only poor conspiracionists need to explain why they are just not good enough.

 

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Everyone who believes in these conspiracy theories should just learn how to play. And learn mathematics. And stop thinking you are so special and you run into perfect counters all the time. What about players that run into you, huh?

And stop playing netdecks everyone knows how to play against. I made to legend with Stealer of Souls Warlock (in standard) this month and have no problem to reach it every season if I have time to play. Tournament level players or streamers also seem to have no problems about it. Only poor conspiracionists need to explain why they are just not good enough.

 What  a load of crap.  You reach legend(allegedly) or shall we say the DECK did using broken shit that was even banned in wild.  You want props for this?  The game has no skill involved there, Spanky.  legend is just grinding broken decks.  Thats it.  Anyone that actually thinks  this game takes skill is dumber than probably already expected.  There are no conspiracies - theres just facts: This is a casino-level game with ridiculously Tier-0 decks that "get" people legend.  It means nothing.  Do it without a cancer deck and we'll talk but no one ever does.  Another fact. 

100% this. If you play enough the game will eventually put you on a streak where you get perfect cards on curve and win enough mindless games to legend. Then you'll go on a losing streak where your key cards are buried or get burned thus maintaining the stated goal of an overall 50% win rate. 

Can the  window-lickers that insist on playing Raza Priest please do the world a favor and go kill yourselves.  Any way you see fit is OK but please do it.  Thanks.

Oh and secret mage is a braindead deck requiring only a pulse to win with.  Its NOT the player that wins with it.  100% the deck.  Fact  Just want the vegetables that play that deck to know.  That is, if they can read & write.

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Why are people who don’t believe in big scary conspiracy theories so hostile towards those who do? Funny how these theories always end up being true! The people who believe in them will just say those who don’t believe are just ********. But those anti conspiracists it’s like it eats at there soul they HAVE to be right. You HAVE to think just like them! Lol why? Why are you people literally npcs? Who cares who complains about the rng? Everyone admits and knows it is being manipulated the question always seems to be how much? Let the man think what he wants. Who cares. Stop starting shit because they don’t fall in line with your thinking. I can just imagine how you people are in real life prob pretty sad.

 I’m not an ‘anti-conspiricy theorist’. Some conspiricies have weight to them and until proven wrong I can understand why people would follow them. Blizzard manipulating the game for profit is a fair enough conspiracy to believe in, there is no smoking gun evidence for it but given the predatory nature of gaming publishers (including Activision Blizzard) I can understand why people don’t trust them.

Some of the things Evil_B is posting are verifiably incorrect, though. I know you are desperate for your feelings to be validated but jumping on literally ANYTHING which you feel supports your beliefs is a pretty sure fire way to look stupid. 

Anybody who cannot make Legend just isn’t skilled enough at the game to do so. That’s a fact. They haven’t put enough time into studying the meta, they don’t understand how to mulligan correctly, they have no clue how to hand read, they are usually focused purely on what is happening on the board and not what their opponents will be playing next turn, or the turn after that. “Should I draw cards here or is developing a minion mire important?” “Should I drop my win con now or bait out removal?” Etc

@Evil_B your last comment actually half makes sense. Those things existing DO indicate that Blizzard COULD manipulate the game in nefarious ways. It doesn’t PROVE that they are, however, and it certainly doesn’t explain why you are stuck at Diamond 5 because people who are actually good at the game have no issue sailing into Legend, even on completely fresh accounts, other people’s accounts, old accounts, F2P accounts, P2W accounts, all of it. The only people who cannot make Legend are those who don’t try to, or those who, despite thinking the game is easy, don’t fully understand it.

MMR and a lot of RNG are good ways to jeep everything close to 50/50, you don’t need to rig games. However, to reiterate, Blizzard MAY be doing that. It hasn’t been proven or disproven. Your claims that people cannot make Legend without the game rigging it for them has been disproven countless times however. You could even disprove it yourself if you dropped the act and put some time into really learning how to optimally play the game.

 

 Pro streamer Lifecoach quit playing the game for the very reasons I point out:

"The world's best player can probably have a 5% edge over a good player per game, at the moment, which is ridiculously low. That also reflects the low skill cap."

"We realized how ridiculous the system is, in that it rewards hard grinding. The more games you play, the more reward you get. Skill doesn't really matter. It's quantity over quality. As people who are striving for perfection, that’s actually a really bad thing. It's not about who's playing the best, it's basically about who’s playing the most. I mean, obviously you still have to play well, but quantity weighs way more than quality in this system."

https://www.pcgamer.com/lifecoach-on-quitting-hearthstone-you-dont-get-rewarded-you-get-punched-in-the-face/

That's a pro streamer. I guess he didn't know how to optimally play the game either. 

I'm not going to spend hours and hours waiting for the system to reward me. I have better shit to do with my time. So I bounce from Diamond 5 to 1 and back because I don't play enough to trigger the gateway algorithm. 

LOL what? Do you actually believe Lifecoach quit Hearthstone because he believes Blizzard are using a rigged algorithm? He quit because the game has too much RNG, which it does (imo). This inherently neuters the pro competitive scene.

Like literally nothing he has said supports your theories in any way. The 'system' he is talking about is ladder, and how players at the very highest level need to grind every day in order to finish high enough to qualify for events and such. You aren't even included in his conversation because you're not good enough to get to a stage where RNG is even having that great of an effect over a large enough sample size. When he says "good player" he isn't talking about players stuck in Diamond. He's talking more about players who will be consistently making top 1000 Legend. The 5% w/r difference is over a huge number of games and is what separates the very top players (like Top 100 or so) from those just below them. 

The reason you bounce from 5 to 1 and back isn't RNG, or a rigged system, it's because you aren't good enough to maintain a win rate that will take you to Legend within a reasonable amount of games. Suck it up. You've already told us that you have over 1000 wins, so don't now act like you don't play enough. I mean I've already linked to someone who started a brand new account, completed the tutorial and made legend in 15 hours of play time.

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Why are people who don’t believe in big scary conspiracy theories so hostile towards those who do? Funny how these theories always end up being true! The people who believe in them will just say those who don’t believe are just ********. But those anti conspiracists it’s like it eats at there soul they HAVE to be right. You HAVE to think just like them! Lol why? Why are you people literally npcs? Who cares who complains about the rng? Everyone admits and knows it is being manipulated the question always seems to be how much? Let the man think what he wants. Who cares. Stop starting shit because they don’t fall in line with your thinking. I can just imagine how you people are in real life prob pretty sad.

 For the same reason why people are hostile to flat earthers, seeing that much stupidity is pretty triggering.

I got the same kind of comments from fanboys when I spoke about the game reading the board and choosing the best card. They all told me how dumb I was and how that kind of programming was beyond Blizzard's capability. Then ZTG came out and surprisingly all those fanboys went silent. Now they want us to believe that yes Blizzard CAN do that, but they don't. You true believers are the real flat earthers. Ignoring the evidence to believe what you really want to be true. 

I mean Blizzard could program just about anything into the game, there's no technological limit to them placing the algorithm which you believe they have into the game. They absolutely could do it.

However it is pretty funny that you believe ZTG is in any way close to that algorithm. ZTG has a basic understanding of the board and player state and selects a 'perfect' card from static pool (the Classic and Basic set). He doesn't consider each players MMR, or whether X player needs to win this game, or if Y player has bought any packs this month, none of that. He doesn't constantly get updated with knowledge of every new card that comes into the game, he doesn't know the synergies of your deck, he doesn't know how your opponents deck works or the best way to beat it etc.

They need to fucking address priest bullshit,this piece of shit small indie company  game is unplayable with this cancer around.

i played 21 games today, 15 of my opponents were shaman :) 

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Opening 2 sets of packs, Forged in the barrens, and Darkmoon Faire.

I was trying to elongate the Legendary timer by opening 1 Darkmoon pack, then both barrens packs in order to attempt getting a legendary from Darkmoon (i'm looking for N'Zoth, God of the Deep)

As I was hovering over the cards in the 2nd Barrens pack, i was thinking to myself "Please, no legendaries and i'm good"

 

this is not how any of this works bro, you just got upset for no reason at all. legendary pity timers are SEPARATE for each card EXPANSION. so even if you open 3 barrens legendaries in a row, it does not affect your chances of getting darkmoon legendaries AT ALL.

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Why are people who don’t believe in big scary conspiracy theories so hostile towards those who do? Funny how these theories always end up being true! The people who believe in them will just say those who don’t believe are just ********. But those anti conspiracists it’s like it eats at there soul they HAVE to be right. You HAVE to think just like them! Lol why? Why are you people literally npcs? Who cares who complains about the rng? Everyone admits and knows it is being manipulated the question always seems to be how much? Let the man think what he wants. Who cares. Stop starting shit because they don’t fall in line with your thinking. I can just imagine how you people are in real life prob pretty sad.

 I’m not an ‘anti-conspiricy theorist’. Some conspiricies have weight to them and until proven wrong I can understand why people would follow them. Blizzard manipulating the game for profit is a fair enough conspiracy to believe in, there is no smoking gun evidence for it but given the predatory nature of gaming publishers (including Activision Blizzard) I can understand why people don’t trust them.

Some of the things Evil_B is posting are verifiably incorrect, though. I know you are desperate for your feelings to be validated but jumping on literally ANYTHING which you feel supports your beliefs is a pretty sure fire way to look stupid. 

Anybody who cannot make Legend just isn’t skilled enough at the game to do so. That’s a fact. They haven’t put enough time into studying the meta, they don’t understand how to mulligan correctly, they have no clue how to hand read, they are usually focused purely on what is happening on the board and not what their opponents will be playing next turn, or the turn after that. “Should I draw cards here or is developing a minion mire important?” “Should I drop my win con now or bait out removal?” Etc

@Evil_B your last comment actually half makes sense. Those things existing DO indicate that Blizzard COULD manipulate the game in nefarious ways. It doesn’t PROVE that they are, however, and it certainly doesn’t explain why you are stuck at Diamond 5 because people who are actually good at the game have no issue sailing into Legend, even on completely fresh accounts, other people’s accounts, old accounts, F2P accounts, P2W accounts, all of it. The only people who cannot make Legend are those who don’t try to, or those who, despite thinking the game is easy, don’t fully understand it.

MMR and a lot of RNG are good ways to jeep everything close to 50/50, you don’t need to rig games. However, to reiterate, Blizzard MAY be doing that. It hasn’t been proven or disproven. Your claims that people cannot make Legend without the game rigging it for them has been disproven countless times however. You could even disprove it yourself if you dropped the act and put some time into really learning how to optimally play the game.

 

 Pro streamer Lifecoach quit playing the game for the very reasons I point out:

"The world's best player can probably have a 5% edge over a good player per game, at the moment, which is ridiculously low. That also reflects the low skill cap."

"We realized how ridiculous the system is, in that it rewards hard grinding. The more games you play, the more reward you get. Skill doesn't really matter. It's quantity over quality. As people who are striving for perfection, that’s actually a really bad thing. It's not about who's playing the best, it's basically about who’s playing the most. I mean, obviously you still have to play well, but quantity weighs way more than quality in this system."

https://www.pcgamer.com/lifecoach-on-quitting-hearthstone-you-dont-get-rewarded-you-get-punched-in-the-face/

That's a pro streamer. I guess he didn't know how to optimally play the game either. 

I'm not going to spend hours and hours waiting for the system to reward me. I have better shit to do with my time. So I bounce from Diamond 5 to 1 and back because I don't play enough to trigger the gateway algorithm. 

LOL what? Do you actually believe Lifecoach quit Hearthstone because he believes Blizzard are using a rigged algorithm? He quit because the game has too much RNG, which it does (imo). This inherently neuters the pro competitive scene.

Like literally nothing he has said supports your theories in any way. The 'system' he is talking about is ladder, and how players at the very highest level need to grind every day in order to finish high enough to qualify for events and such. You aren't even included in his conversation because you're not good enough to get to a stage where RNG is even having that great of an effect over a large enough sample size. When he says "good player" he isn't talking about players stuck in Diamond. He's talking more about players who will be consistently making top 1000 Legend. The 5% w/r difference is over a huge number of games and is what separates the very top players (like Top 100 or so) from those just below them. 

The reason you bounce from 5 to 1 and back isn't RNG, or a rigged system, it's because you aren't good enough to maintain a win rate that will take you to Legend within a reasonable amount of games. Suck it up. You've already told us that you have over 1000 wins, so don't now act like you don't play enough. I mean I've already linked to someone who started a brand new account, completed the tutorial and made legend in 15 hours of play time.

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Why are people who don’t believe in big scary conspiracy theories so hostile towards those who do? Funny how these theories always end up being true! The people who believe in them will just say those who don’t believe are just ********. But those anti conspiracists it’s like it eats at there soul they HAVE to be right. You HAVE to think just like them! Lol why? Why are you people literally npcs? Who cares who complains about the rng? Everyone admits and knows it is being manipulated the question always seems to be how much? Let the man think what he wants. Who cares. Stop starting shit because they don’t fall in line with your thinking. I can just imagine how you people are in real life prob pretty sad.

 For the same reason why people are hostile to flat earthers, seeing that much stupidity is pretty triggering.

I got the same kind of comments from fanboys when I spoke about the game reading the board and choosing the best card. They all told me how dumb I was and how that kind of programming was beyond Blizzard's capability. Then ZTG came out and surprisingly all those fanboys went silent. Now they want us to believe that yes Blizzard CAN do that, but they don't. You true believers are the real flat earthers. Ignoring the evidence to believe what you really want to be true. 

I mean Blizzard could program just about anything into the game, there's no technological limit to them placing the algorithm which you believe they have into the game. They absolutely could do it.

However it is pretty funny that you believe ZTG is in any way close to that algorithm. ZTG has a basic understanding of the board and player state and selects a 'perfect' card from static pool (the Classic and Basic set). He doesn't consider each players MMR, or whether X player needs to win this game, or if Y player has bought any packs this month, none of that. He doesn't constantly get updated with knowledge of every new card that comes into the game, he doesn't know the synergies of your deck, he doesn't know how your opponents deck works or the best way to beat it etc.

 Man you really want to believe. If it really helps you enjoy the game to hang on to the idea that Blizzard is only out to create a 100% fair and random game for your entertainment then again I say more power to you. Doesn't make it so but if it works for you then have at it. It was adorable how you keep referring to ZTG as if the card was a real person. I said the card reads the board and selects the best card and somehow you took that off on an algorithm tangent. 

I like how you interpret Lifecoach's interview to meet your fantasies. Kind of glossed over the "low skill cap" and added some of your ideas as if they were his but again whatever works for you. 

Also the fact that you think 15 hours of playing a video game isn't a lot just proves my point. There's a great big world out there. Try checking it out sometime.