Like I genuinely can’t beat it with any deck. None at all. I even put together a quest heal priest aids deck specifically because all I’m seeing on ladder is face hunter. Didn’t matter. First game versus face hunter, I got perfect early draws, but so did they. I just got smashed. They filled the board with stuff I couldn’t easily remove, then threw out voracious readers at the perfect times and I died. I couldn’t have had better cards, got both penances, holy nova, breath, everything, but it didn’t matter. They just overpowered me and I couldn’t stabilise.
At legend today I’ve played thirty games and lost almost every single one to the extent I’m now against d5/6/7 players, 66% of games were against face hunter, and I didn’t win a single one. I’m playing lots of random decks but they are all strong, but they all just seem to lose to face hunter. Feels like the margin for error against current aggro decks is out of sync. They have too many tools to do unanswerable, unpreventable damage and I think it sucks.
Love this game but I think this is the worst meta in a long time. Feels like aggro decks, hunter/rogue specifically, need a slight nerf to open up the field of playable decks.
Like I genuinely can’t beat it with any deck. None at all. I even put together a quest heal priest aids deck specifically because all I’m seeing on ladder is face hunter. Didn’t matter. First game versus face hunter, I got perfect early draws, but so did they. I just got smashed. They filled the board with stuff I couldn’t easily remove, then threw out voracious readers at the perfect times and I died. I couldn’t have had better cards, got both penances, holy nova, breath, everything, but it didn’t matter. They just overpowered me and I couldn’t stabilise.
At legend today I’ve played thirty games and lost almost every single one to the extent I’m now against d5/6/7 players, 66% of games were against face hunter, and I didn’t win a single one. I’m playing lots of random decks but they are all strong, but they all just seem to lose to face hunter. Feels like the margin for error against current aggro decks is out of sync. They have too many tools to do unanswerable, unpreventable damage and I think it sucks.
Love this game but I think this is the worst meta in a long time. Feels like aggro decks, hunter/rogue specifically, need a slight nerf to open up the field of playable decks.
Thats because this game is fucking broken and the developers refuse to address things like face hunter that have run rampant. Oh yeah, in a game about being fun and silly we have a deck that doesnt want to play against an actual opponent. Just ignore everything and barf leper gnomes and then rope in the rare chance they are losing.
People will not admit this here but the developers fail every expansion on containing aggro. In some form or another we have decks that just go face nonstop. You can do it in wild, too. A lot of the time with secret mage you can get away with point+click to the face with all your cards. The games initial design in no longer conductive to a balanced environment and it has not been for years. 30 health is too low, Early cards are too snowbally and aggresive. There is no strategy for these players they just want to get their 10g or quest done so they can spin the roulette wheel on a pack for cards they dont use.
I've loved heartstone with some frustrations for a lot of year, but the year of the phoenix is DESTROYING heartstone. I'm so sick of going up against decks that just have these retarded overstatted minions or crazy value battlecries/deathrattles. Druid, even if it gets countered by aggro decks just isn't close to fun to play against, paladin is just unhealthy with the amount of buffs they can cycle over and over, hell even warrior now has a broken deck just because of the summon 3/3 guy and protodrake with dimension ripper. Yes it's been the most diverse meta I think I've seen in a long time, but if every deck is broken then it's just a matter of who gets their curve and that person wins.
And then there's arena with all the beyond broken commons like protodrake, plagiarise, the wand thief thingy, again that warrior card, winged guardian, ect. It helps making the normal game more free to play yeah, but it's just destroyed arena
At some point the devs forgot that HS is a game played between two people, both of whom are supposed to be having fun. In their current states, neither Standard nor Wild meet this simple requirement.
Like I genuinely can’t beat it with any deck. None at all. I even put together a quest heal priest aids deck specifically because all I’m seeing on ladder is face hunter. Didn’t matter. First game versus face hunter, I got perfect early draws, but so did they. I just got smashed. They filled the board with stuff I couldn’t easily remove, then threw out voracious readers at the perfect times and I died. I couldn’t have had better cards, got both penances, holy nova, breath, everything, but it didn’t matter. They just overpowered me and I couldn’t stabilise.
At legend today I’ve played thirty games and lost almost every single one to the extent I’m now against d5/6/7 players, 66% of games were against face hunter, and I didn’t win a single one. I’m playing lots of random decks but they are all strong, but they all just seem to lose to face hunter. Feels like the margin for error against current aggro decks is out of sync. They have too many tools to do unanswerable, unpreventable damage and I think it sucks.
Love this game but I think this is the worst meta in a long time. Feels like aggro decks, hunter/rogue specifically, need a slight nerf to open up the field of playable decks.
Thats because this game is fucking broken and the developers refuse to address things like face hunter that have run rampant. Oh yeah, in a game about being fun and silly we have a deck that doesnt want to play against an actual opponent. Just ignore everything and barf leper gnomes and then rope in the rare chance they are losing.
People will not admit this here but the developers fail every expansion on containing aggro. In some form or another we have decks that just go face nonstop. You can do it in wild, too. A lot of the time with secret mage you can get away with point+click to the face with all your cards. The games initial design in no longer conductive to a balanced environment and it has not been for years. 30 health is too low, Early cards are too snowbally and aggresive. There is no strategy for these players they just want to get their 10g or quest done so they can spin the roulette wheel on a pack for cards they dont use.
This x1000.
This game is such an awful experience for strategists and newbies alike - due to its awful balance and non-sensical rng structure.
The worst thing is that Blizzard has cheated tons of people out of paying money for digital content that they literally ruin via nerfs at the end of every expansion so that the next set can "seem" and "feel" more ridiculous.
Now with this expansion...the game is at a state where it makes you want to rage quit almost every class you run into due to how awful the power creep has become and how uninteractive it is.
Even worse is even win you win...it doesn't feel earned or enjoyable....just like some retarded type of slot machine luck. at least with real gambling you win something of tangible value.
As of now this game feels like nothing more an utter waste of your time.
Conspiracy theory was a term developed to discredit people telling truths that the power structure did not want spoken. It was a way to discrediting people without having to deal with the subject they are talking about. So when the mods here say they don't want conspiracy theories, what they really don't want is people to speak the truth about this game.
Conspiracy theory was a term developed to discredit people telling truths that the power structure did not want spoken. It was a way to discrediting people without having to deal with the subject they are talking about. So when the mods here say they don't want conspiracy theories, what they really don't want is people to speak the truth about this game.
Um, bullshit? Conspiracy theories are theories based on no or weak evidence meant to incite others. If you don't have proof, it's not the truth. And even if it's true, you're more likely to be right by coincidence.
People don't even present STATISTICS when they talk about Blizzard stacking the game, or whatever they think they're doing. They just go "Oh, it feels true,"
And this wouldn't be the thread for that anyway...
Anyway, I'm sick of getting high rolled. Kinda wish the game wasn't built around it quite as much.
Conspiracy theory was a term developed to discredit people telling truths that the power structure did not want spoken. It was a way to discrediting people without having to deal with the subject they are talking about. So when the mods here say they don't want conspiracy theories, what they really don't want is people to speak the truth about this game.
Um, bullshit? Conspiracy theories are theories based on no or weak evidence meant to incite others. If you don't have proof, it's not the truth. And even if it's true, you're more likely to be right by coincidence.
People don't even present STATISTICS when they talk about Blizzard stacking the game, or whatever they think they're doing. They just go "Oh, it feels true,"
And this wouldn't be the thread for that anyway...
Anyway, I'm sick of getting high rolled. Kinda wish the game wasn't built around it quite as much.
Your modernity brainwashing has taught you that you need an exact smoking gun to believe anything. Have the guts to stop being in denial about things that everyone knows it’s true. That’s called an open secret. Don’t go and say game isn’t rigged then contradict yourself in the very next sentence. Stop being naive.
Conspiracy theory was a term developed to discredit people telling truths that the power structure did not want spoken. It was a way to discrediting people without having to deal with the subject they are talking about. So when the mods here say they don't want conspiracy theories, what they really don't want is people to speak the truth about this game.
Um, bullshit? Conspiracy theories are theories based on no or weak evidence meant to incite others. If you don't have proof, it's not the truth. And even if it's true, you're more likely to be right by coincidence.
People don't even present STATISTICS when they talk about Blizzard stacking the game, or whatever they think they're doing. They just go "Oh, it feels true,"
And this wouldn't be the thread for that anyway...
Anyway, I'm sick of getting high rolled. Kinda wish the game wasn't built around it quite as much.
Your modernity brainwashing has taught you that you need an exact smoking gun to believe anything. Have the guts to stop being in denial about things that everyone knows it’s true. That’s called an open secret. Don’t go and say game isn’t rigged then contradict yourself in the very next sentence. Stop being naive.
This type of nuttery has become commonplace in all points of society.
Why would someone believe something there is no EVIDENCE for??. Millions of people play Hearthstone. A few hundred people get salty and start screaming about the game being rigged. That doesn't make it so. Hearthstone literally has NOTHING to gain. People always scream about poker sites being rigged too. Like a site would throw away a multi-million dollar organization, just to make 200 people lose. How stupid is that? People deconstruct coding on games all the time looking for fishy things. When they find stuff, it's all over gaming news. When they don't, no one says anything, because there's nothing to say.
A bunch of people patting themselves on the back, reassuring each other that something is true without evidence is called confirmation bias. If you need confirmation bias, your idea probably isn't true.
There is nothing conspiratorial about excessive RNG, manacheating, manipulative matchmaking, or the set patterns of nerfs that hit every expansions most excessive cards right before next expansion.
The fact remains that this game is being excessively manipulated by algorithms to try to maintain 50% wins for all players AS STATED BY BLIZZARD. That means there are safeguards implemented to keep you from wins and anyone who has played this game can tell by looking at exactly how you lose.
Either by repetitive queuing into exact class/counter decks, cards provided that didn't start in opponents decks(discover/Zephrys), or excessive high rolling(RNG and mana cheating). This is Hearthstone not conspiracy.
This is because they would not want you to win by (skill or card synergies of deck building of your own) but rather you win by forced synergies of their own pre-constructioned decks. Their idea of fun for players is "ooh look what Zephrys gave me. Or wow how magical was that highroll". This equates to a lack of interaction or predictability which is why the game sucks now and feels like you are being cheated from wins.
Super cool, intelligent, likeable, friendly guys that everybody they meet in real life just likes, fun to party with and pulls ladies by the hundreds and are true gods in the sack. Humorous and good-looking and generally just really likeable and just ridiculously enjoyable and smart human beings that are fucking normal and cool.
Priest, Druid, DH, Hunter:
Autistic fucking tryhard scumbag waste of oxygen amoebas, everyone hates their guts in real life and they have no friends and never even talked to, yet touched, a girl. Fucking awkward and disgusting little introvert dogshit nerds that sit with their greasy bucktooth faces and grins while counting their arguments ”won” on forums on whiteboards. The most retarded and obnoxious people, the friend that nobody fucking likes, the most pitiful slobbiest nolifing fucking subhuman filth that ever walked this earth
Super cool, intelligent, likeable, friendly guys that everybody they meet in real life just likes, fun to party with and pulls ladies by the hundreds and are true gods in the sack. Humorous and good-looking and generally just really likeable and just ridiculously enjoyable and smart human beings that are fucking normal and cool.
Priest, Druid, DH, Hunter:
******** fucking tryhard scumbag waste of oxygen amoebas, everyone hates their guts in real life and they have no friends and never even talked to, yet touched, a girl. Fucking awkward and disgusting little introvert dogshit nerds that sit with their greasy bucktooth faces and grins while counting their arguments ”won” on forums on whiteboards. The most ******** and obnoxious people, the friend that nobody fucking likes, the most pitiful slobbiest nolifing fucking subhuman filth that ever walked this earth
Conspiracy theory was a term developed to discredit people telling truths that the power structure did not want spoken. It was a way to discrediting people without having to deal with the subject they are talking about. So when the mods here say they don't want conspiracy theories, what they really don't want is people to speak the truth about this game.
Um, bullshit? Conspiracy theories are theories based on no or weak evidence meant to incite others. If you don't have proof, it's not the truth. And even if it's true, you're more likely to be right by coincidence.
People don't even present STATISTICS when they talk about Blizzard stacking the game, or whatever they think they're doing. They just go "Oh, it feels true,"
And this wouldn't be the thread for that anyway...
Anyway, I'm sick of getting high rolled. Kinda wish the game wasn't built around it quite as much.
Your modernity brainwashing has taught you that you need an exact smoking gun to believe anything. Have the guts to stop being in denial about things that everyone knows it’s true. That’s called an open secret. Don’t go and say game isn’t rigged then contradict yourself in the very next sentence. Stop being naive.
This type of nuttery has become commonplace in all points of society.
Why would someone believe something there is no EVIDENCE for??. Millions of people play Hearthstone. A few hundred people get salty and start screaming about the game being rigged. That doesn't make it so. Hearthstone literally has NOTHING to gain. People always scream about poker sites being rigged too. Like a site would throw away a multi-million dollar organization, just to make 200 people lose. How stupid is that? People deconstruct coding on games all the time looking for fishy things. When they find stuff, it's all over gaming news. When they don't, no one says anything, because there's nothing to say.
A bunch of people patting themselves on the back, reassuring each other that something is true without evidence is called confirmation bias. If you need confirmation bias, your idea probably isn't true.
There are literally tons of evidence. Blizzard flat out admits that they manipulate things like occurrence rates of cards, etc. However all you need to do is look at ZTG. The card reads the board then offers the best possible cards. I am always amazed by people that actually believe that this type of programming isn't used throughout the game.
If you don't see what they have to gain by this then you don't understand that this is a business. People that are spoon fed cards on curve and top deck winners play longer. When they are eventually beat by a certain deck featuring cards that they don't have they spend money to either discover one or get enough dust to create one. They then achieve the same approximate 50% win rate that Blizzard has stated as their goal and the cycle repeats. This is basic shit here.
Can we get Priest renamed Karen.
Face hunter is driving me mad.
Like I genuinely can’t beat it with any deck. None at all. I even put together a quest heal priest aids deck specifically because all I’m seeing on ladder is face hunter. Didn’t matter. First game versus face hunter, I got perfect early draws, but so did they. I just got smashed. They filled the board with stuff I couldn’t easily remove, then threw out voracious readers at the perfect times and I died. I couldn’t have had better cards, got both penances, holy nova, breath, everything, but it didn’t matter. They just overpowered me and I couldn’t stabilise.
At legend today I’ve played thirty games and lost almost every single one to the extent I’m now against d5/6/7 players, 66% of games were against face hunter, and I didn’t win a single one. I’m playing lots of random decks but they are all strong, but they all just seem to lose to face hunter. Feels like the margin for error against current aggro decks is out of sync. They have too many tools to do unanswerable, unpreventable damage and I think it sucks.
Love this game but I think this is the worst meta in a long time. Feels like aggro decks, hunter/rogue specifically, need a slight nerf to open up the field of playable decks.
I dunno how Argent Braggart has STILL gone without a nerf.
Playing two 11/14s for 4 mana is... what? Reasonable? Christ.
Thats because this game is fucking broken and the developers refuse to address things like face hunter that have run rampant. Oh yeah, in a game about being fun and silly we have a deck that doesnt want to play against an actual opponent. Just ignore everything and barf leper gnomes and then rope in the rare chance they are losing.
People will not admit this here but the developers fail every expansion on containing aggro. In some form or another we have decks that just go face nonstop. You can do it in wild, too. A lot of the time with secret mage you can get away with point+click to the face with all your cards. The games initial design in no longer conductive to a balanced environment and it has not been for years. 30 health is too low, Early cards are too snowbally and aggresive. There is no strategy for these players they just want to get their 10g or quest done so they can spin the roulette wheel on a pack for cards they dont use.
I've loved heartstone with some frustrations for a lot of year, but the year of the phoenix is DESTROYING heartstone. I'm so sick of going up against decks that just have these retarded overstatted minions or crazy value battlecries/deathrattles.
Druid, even if it gets countered by aggro decks just isn't close to fun to play against, paladin is just unhealthy with the amount of buffs they can cycle over and over, hell even warrior now has a broken deck just because of the summon 3/3 guy and protodrake with dimension ripper.
Yes it's been the most diverse meta I think I've seen in a long time, but if every deck is broken then it's just a matter of who gets their curve and that person wins.
And then there's arena with all the beyond broken commons like protodrake, plagiarise, the wand thief thingy, again that warrior card, winged guardian, ect. It helps making the normal game more free to play yeah, but it's just destroyed arena
Tbh, I haven't seen ress priest since scholomance started. And tortolan mage freezes your board 11 times and then insta kills you
At some point the devs forgot that HS is a game played between two people, both of whom are supposed to be having fun. In their current states, neither Standard nor Wild meet this simple requirement.
This x1000.
This game is such an awful experience for strategists and newbies alike - due to its awful balance and non-sensical rng structure.
The worst thing is that Blizzard has cheated tons of people out of paying money for digital content that they literally ruin via nerfs at the end of every expansion so that the next set can "seem" and "feel" more ridiculous.
Now with this expansion...the game is at a state where it makes you want to rage quit almost every class you run into due to how awful the power creep has become and how uninteractive it is.
Even worse is even win you win...it doesn't feel earned or enjoyable....just like some retarded type of slot machine luck. at least with real gambling you win something of tangible value.
As of now this game feels like nothing more an utter waste of your time.
Conspiracy theory was a term developed to discredit people telling truths that the power structure did not want spoken. It was a way to discrediting people without having to deal with the subject they are talking about. So when the mods here say they don't want conspiracy theories, what they really don't want is people to speak the truth about this game.
Um, bullshit? Conspiracy theories are theories based on no or weak evidence meant to incite others. If you don't have proof, it's not the truth. And even if it's true, you're more likely to be right by coincidence.
People don't even present STATISTICS when they talk about Blizzard stacking the game, or whatever they think they're doing. They just go "Oh, it feels true,"
And this wouldn't be the thread for that anyway...
Anyway, I'm sick of getting high rolled. Kinda wish the game wasn't built around it quite as much.
Stop this long posts omg. I wanna read more "kill yourself, fck every1 and I hate this game". Please no constructive posts ty
Your modernity brainwashing has taught you that you need an exact smoking gun to believe anything. Have the guts to stop being in denial about things that everyone knows it’s true. That’s called an open secret. Don’t go and say game isn’t rigged then contradict yourself in the very next sentence. Stop being naive.
This type of nuttery has become commonplace in all points of society.
Why would someone believe something there is no EVIDENCE for??. Millions of people play Hearthstone. A few hundred people get salty and start screaming about the game being rigged. That doesn't make it so. Hearthstone literally has NOTHING to gain. People always scream about poker sites being rigged too. Like a site would throw away a multi-million dollar organization, just to make 200 people lose. How stupid is that? People deconstruct coding on games all the time looking for fishy things. When they find stuff, it's all over gaming news. When they don't, no one says anything, because there's nothing to say.
A bunch of people patting themselves on the back, reassuring each other that something is true without evidence is called confirmation bias. If you need confirmation bias, your idea probably isn't true.
There is nothing conspiratorial about excessive RNG, manacheating, manipulative matchmaking, or the set patterns of nerfs that hit every expansions most excessive cards right before next expansion.
The fact remains that this game is being excessively manipulated by algorithms to try to maintain 50% wins for all players AS STATED BY BLIZZARD. That means there are safeguards implemented to keep you from wins and anyone who has played this game can tell by looking at exactly how you lose.
Either by repetitive queuing into exact class/counter decks, cards provided that didn't start in opponents decks(discover/Zephrys), or excessive high rolling(RNG and mana cheating). This is Hearthstone not conspiracy.
This is because they would not want you to win by (skill or card synergies of deck building of your own) but rather you win by forced synergies of their own pre-constructioned decks. Their idea of fun for players is "ooh look what Zephrys gave me. Or wow how magical was that highroll". This equates to a lack of interaction or predictability which is why the game sucks now and feels like you are being cheated from wins.
What a stupid fucking game, so much wasted time.
Warrior, Rogue, Warlock, Mage, Paladin:
Super cool, intelligent, likeable, friendly guys that everybody they meet in real life just likes, fun to party with and pulls ladies by the hundreds and are true gods in the sack. Humorous and good-looking and generally just really likeable and just ridiculously enjoyable and smart human beings that are fucking normal and cool.
Priest, Druid, DH, Hunter:
Autistic fucking tryhard scumbag waste of oxygen amoebas, everyone hates their guts in real life and they have no friends and never even talked to, yet touched, a girl. Fucking awkward and disgusting little introvert dogshit nerds that sit with their greasy bucktooth faces and grins while counting their arguments ”won” on forums on whiteboards. The most retarded and obnoxious people, the friend that nobody fucking likes, the most pitiful slobbiest nolifing fucking subhuman filth that ever walked this earth
please write something about Shaman players!!
Turtle mage is fucking disgusting and needs to be removed from the game. Fuck that non-interactive disease.
Dear aggro players, why do you ruin the game for us that want to give some thought into the game?
There are literally tons of evidence. Blizzard flat out admits that they manipulate things like occurrence rates of cards, etc. However all you need to do is look at ZTG. The card reads the board then offers the best possible cards. I am always amazed by people that actually believe that this type of programming isn't used throughout the game.
If you don't see what they have to gain by this then you don't understand that this is a business. People that are spoon fed cards on curve and top deck winners play longer. When they are eventually beat by a certain deck featuring cards that they don't have they spend money to either discover one or get enough dust to create one. They then achieve the same approximate 50% win rate that Blizzard has stated as their goal and the cycle repeats. This is basic shit here.