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#85 Feb 1, 2018 (Kobolds Patch)
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I'm moving on from this one now. I think it's run it's course...

When you don't even have a comment of your own to make, but just paste other people's instead.
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#86 Feb 1, 2018 (Kobolds Patch)
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Got to agree with 9k, I rarely ever saw Southsea Captain played until Patches was brought into the game. The only three cards I would see in decks that played Pirates, which didn't have the usual Pirate synergy (Priest, Druid, Warlock) were Bloodsail Corsair and Patches, or Southsea Captain and Patches. Kinda hinting at Patches may be the problem in the equation. Does that mean Bloodsail Corsair that drew out a Patches should also be nerfed? I don't think so.

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Got to agree with 9k, I rarely ever saw Southsea Captain played until Patches was brought into the game. The only three cards I would see in decks that played Pirates, which didn't have the usual Pirate synergy (Priest, Druid, Warlock) were Bloodsail Corsair and Patches, or Southsea Captain and Patches. Kinda hinting at Patches may be the problem in the equation. Does that mean Bloodsail Corsair that drew out a Patches should also be nerfed? I don't think so.

I get your reasoning here - but by that logic, it would also mean that Bloodsail and Patches was overpowered (which obviously it wasn't in the slightest). Which to me hints that Patches wasn't the problem after all.

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Got to agree with 9k, I rarely ever saw Southsea Captain played until Patches was brought into the game. The only three cards I would see in decks that played Pirates, which didn't have the usual Pirate synergy (Priest, Druid, Warlock) were Bloodsail Corsair and Patches, or Southsea Captain and Patches. Kinda hinting at Patches may be the problem in the equation. Does that mean Bloodsail Corsair that drew out a Patches should also be nerfed? I don't think so.

I get your reasoning here - but by that logic, it would also mean that Bloodsail and Patches was overpowered (which obviously it wasn't in the slightest). Which to me hints that Patches wasn't the problem after all.

Patches was OP in every context, with Bloodsail as well in faster decks such as Token Druid or Shaman with the followup of Flametongue totem.

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#89 Feb 1, 2018 (Kobolds Patch)
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Got to agree with 9k, I rarely ever saw Southsea Captain played until Patches was brought into the game. The only three cards I would see in decks that played Pirates, which didn't have the usual Pirate synergy (Priest, Druid, Warlock) were Bloodsail Corsair and Patches, or Southsea Captain and Patches. Kinda hinting at Patches may be the problem in the equation. Does that mean Bloodsail Corsair that drew out a Patches should also be nerfed? I don't think so.

I get your reasoning here - but by that logic, it would also mean that Bloodsail and Patches was overpowered (which obviously it wasn't in the slightest). Which to me hints that Patches wasn't the problem after all.

That kinda is what I was trying to say, Bloodsail Corsair and Southsea Captain did not start popping up in the meta until a lot more people realized the power of Patches. Extra damage from Southsea wasn't the problem, but it was favored because more aggressive decks cared about the extra damage to the face and more control decks favored the extra ping damage to remove a minion on the field. However Bloodsail Corsair and Patches was favored more during a meta where Pirate Warrior was everywhere, Paladin played bigger weapons because they weren't more aggressive, and Rogue played quest with weapons. No one was looking for a nerf against Bloodsail the nerf needed to be brought to Patches. The reason being when you are fighting a opponent and they played any type of Pirate that drew out Patches shrinking their deck and giving them big a tempo swing, the power laid in the card that was being pulled from your deck, plus the extra ping from his charge gave Patches another hit to the face for aggro or a ping to finish off an already weak minion for more control oriented decks. I think the nerf to Patches was a good choice. Will it stop people from not playing the card, probably not, but it won't hurt as much when it is pulled into the battlefield.

TL:DR Southsea Captain, and by default Bloodsail Corsair, does not need to be nerfed. Patches needed to be nerfed and it did. So good.

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There's nothing wrong with the topic itself but the attitude problems of certain individuals have made this thread quite messy. If someone wishes to continue the constructive part of this discussion, feel free to create a new thread. Locked.

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