I think I need to take a break with HS...I can't stand playing against the same decks on ladder again and again...K&C didn't bring enough to really refresh the meta for me...you barely see any Shaman/Warrior...the only true new archtype is the cubelock and tempo dragon priest...playing against Raza priest is more frustrating than ever before thanks to Physic scream & Dustbreaker...Corridor creepers with pirate package is in all aggro decks.....the RNG effect that just keeps deciding games...etc. etc.
So I just heard of this game called Etheral(even though it was released a year ago lol) I just finished the tutorial and the game feels much like MTG, it seems to have way more depths than HS where skill matters way more than luck of a draw or luck of RNG effects and I want to know if anyone has tried Etheral and can tell me more about this game in its current state.
- What is the meta like? Is it also dominated by a few tier 1 decks?
- How "F2P" is it compared to HS? Can you grind little more than someone who paid real cash and be somewhat competitive?
- Are there really powerful/OP cards? Are there completely useless cards? How balance are the cards?
- How big is the community? any of the pros playing Eternal?
I'll be a little blunt.. why are you asking a hearthstone thread about Eternal. That's like asking an Enternal thread about how to draft a hearthstone arena deck.
It's less about it being rude or not and more about how you'd probably get better information from the folks who are active in the game, even if some people play both.
I'll be a little blunt.. why are you asking a hearthstone thread about Eternal. That's like asking an Enternal thread about how to draft a hearthstone arena deck.
It's less about it being rude or not and more about how you'd probably get better information from the folks who are active in the game, even if some people play both.
There you go. You could probably reference hearthstone as well as a good many who play eternal probably came from hearthstone.
Sorry..I didn't mean to be rude but I just want to know from perspective of HS players if Ethernal is a game worth switching over...I'm sure there are HS players that also played Eternal as well right
ya it's a total valid question here imo. i'd like to know the answers to your questions as well, though i don't have time to invest in another ccg myself.
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Wild Legend - Mar. '18 (Rank 30), Apr. '18, Aug. '19
Twelve Arena Wins - Shaman, Warlock, Mage x2, Rogue, Priest (12-0), Druid, Hallow's End x2, Hunter, Taverns of Time x3 (Pa,D,WL), Paladin
I just started playing Eternal a week ago as well.
It's a varied perspective, but from an MTG background, I like it more than HS.
It reintroduces mana sources (Lands in MTG, Powers in Eternal) and with that, also reintroduces the consistency or inconsistency of drawing the wrong mana at the wrong time. It's a little easier than MTG, with the lands disconnected from the colors it taps for, essentially. You already figured this out if you've played through a few games.
1) Meta does change, especially since the third set Dusk Road came out a month ago, it's been back and forth. A website I found did list an assumed "current" meta roughly 10 days ago.
2) It's much more F2P than Hearthstone, but you'll still feel like you have a long ways to go, and you will. It's a grind to get the Shiftstone you need, but at the same time, there are semi-viable decks to play Gauntlet, Ranked, and Events. Your first win in Casual, Ranked or Draft will get you a free pack. In the beginning of the game, you quickly recieve free packs. Events are a fantastic way to get free packs. Packs contain 15 (I think?) cards, with one Rare or Legendary, a few uncommons, and many commons. After a week or so, you'll have 90% or more of the commons from all sets. I already do.
It's important to note, about the F2P, to consistently do Forge and Draft. You keep all cards from Forge and Draft. Do Forge (2.5k Gold, Hearthstone style draft versus AI) until you get to "Master Rank" which is not difficult at all. Do Gauntlet with budget grinder decks found online to nail in some more free gold until you get Master rank. That one is optional, I've found out. I haven't done it yet, but I know I should. The Rank Up Chests from each reward you with 2k Gold. Once you have 5k Gold, do drafts. You keep all the cards, so just pluck any Rares and Legendaries you see and try to craft a good deck around them. You'll get about 2 wins but you'll net a great benefit rather than straight up buying packs.
Summary of F2P: Yes, much easier than Hearthstone, but don't pretend you'll have competitive decks quickly.
3) Yes. Really powerful cards. There's a 5/7 that doesn't tap to attack and mills you five cards, drawing a Minotaur and Weapon from those 5, and giving them +5 attack each. Weapons are like Enchantments in MTG *and* Weapons in Hearthstone -- I'm sure you've figured that out if you've played the intro campaign. There are so many really strong cards, but at the same time, there is some equally good removal.
Balance is done as you expect: Commons are common and have a generalized effect. Uncommons are strictly better commons. Many people confuse "Strictly better" with "Power creep" -- That's the point. No one wants to play, "1 Mana: Draw a card" when you can play "1 mana: Give a creature flying. Draw a card." But some people may not want to spend Shiftstone on the better card, while they already own the cheaper card.
4) Pros? I'm not sure. I don't think so. It has a much smaller scene than Hearthstone and Magic: The Gathering, as expected. You'll find new streamers and pros, like LocoPojo, but I'm unsure if anyone in the current competative scene of Eternal are recognizeable.
The community is pretty nice so far. Eternal Warcry is the best comparison to Hearthpwn, I'm sure. They have Articles, Decks, Card search, etc. I'm not sure if they have a high quality Forum, and most Eternal players use Reddit. But even on Reddit, they've got some great content. Most of this I learned from a few Reddit searchs.
Hope you're having fun!
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I just started playing Eternal a week ago as well.
It's a varied perspective, but from an MTG background, I like it more than HS.
It reintroduces mana sources (Lands in MTG, Powers in Eternal) and with that, also reintroduces the consistency or inconsistency of drawing the wrong mana at the wrong time. It's a little easier than MTG, with the lands disconnected from the colors it taps for, essentially. You already figured this out if you've played through a few games.
1) Meta does change, especially since the third set Dusk Road came out a month ago, it's been back and forth. A website I found did list an assumed "current" meta roughly 10 days ago.
2) It's much more F2P than Hearthstone, but you'll still feel like you have a long ways to go, and you will. It's a grind to get the Shiftstone you need, but at the same time, there are semi-viable decks to play Gauntlet, Ranked, and Events. Your first win in Casual, Ranked or Draft will get you a free pack. In the beginning of the game, you quickly recieve free packs. Events are a fantastic way to get free packs. Packs contain 15 (I think?) cards, with one Rare or Legendary, a few uncommons, and many commons. After a week or so, you'll have 90% or more of the commons from all sets. I already do.
It's important to note, about the F2P, to consistently do Forge and Draft. You keep all cards from Forge and Draft. Do Forge (2.5k Gold, Hearthstone style draft versus AI) until you get to "Master Rank" which is not difficult at all. Do Gauntlet with budget grinder decks found online to nail in some more free gold until you get Master rank. That one is optional, I've found out. I haven't done it yet, but I know I should. The Rank Up Chests from each reward you with 2k Gold. Once you have 5k Gold, do drafts. You keep all the cards, so just pluck any Rares and Legendaries you see and try to craft a good deck around them. You'll get about 2 wins but you'll net a great benefit rather than straight up buying packs.
Summary of F2P: Yes, much easier than Hearthstone, but don't pretend you'll have competitive decks quickly.
3) Yes. Really powerful cards. There's a 5/7 that doesn't tap to attack and mills you five cards, drawing a Minotaur and Weapon from those 5, and giving them +5 attack each. Weapons are like Enchantments in MTG *and* Weapons in Hearthstone -- I'm sure you've figured that out if you've played the intro campaign. There are so many really strong cards, but at the same time, there is some equally good removal.
Balance is done as you expect: Commons are common and have a generalized effect. Uncommons are strictly better commons. Many people confuse "Strictly better" with "Power creep" -- That's the point. No one wants to play, "1 Mana: Draw a card" when you can play "1 mana: Give a creature flying. Draw a card." But some people may not want to spend Shiftstone on the better card, while they already own the cheaper card.
4) Pros? I'm not sure. I don't think so. It has a much smaller scene than Hearthstone and Magic: The Gathering, as expected. You'll find new streamers and pros, like LocoPojo, but I'm unsure if anyone in the current competative scene of Eternal are recognizeable.
The community is pretty nice so far. Eternal Warcry is the best comparison to Hearthpwn, I'm sure. They have Articles, Decks, Card search, etc. I'm not sure if they have a high quality Forum, and most Eternal players use Reddit. But even on Reddit, they've got some great content. Most of this I learned from a few Reddit searchs.
Hope you're having fun!
Thank you...this is very helpful!
I'll continue to play Eternal then to see where it'll go
I play both game alot. Beside graphic and lore, if we talk only about game play Eternal is just a better game. Period. But, somehow I always feel more satisfy winning a hearthstone game than an eternal game. The emotion, the rage, the salt, the unfair RNG god, ironicaly that kind of stuff always make me want to play HS more. Although Eternal clearly better gameplay wise. It is like a girl always run back to her abusive ex boyfriend hahaha. Hope this help. And to be honest, doesnt hurt to play both game.
1) The meta is much, much slower to settle because there's less top level players working on the best decks and those decks are slower to circulate because there's less netdecking resources
3) A lot of the garbage cards even have their uses. Most of the higher rarity ones are very synergistic and seen in super wonky meme decks that still do decently against meta decks
4) I've seen some HS pros try out Eternal casually. None appear paid off, which is really interesting. Strifecro even reached Masters (Legend) with a deck he made himself a few months ago... I think it was a midrange or aggro Flen?
Eternal is one of the best card games out there, and I would give Faeria a try as well. It's good to take breaks from HS, but all card games will have issues with a stale meta tho.
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I think I need to take a break with HS...I can't stand playing against the same decks on ladder again and again...K&C didn't bring enough to really refresh the meta for me...you barely see any Shaman/Warrior...the only true new archtype is the cubelock and tempo dragon priest...playing against Raza priest is more frustrating than ever before thanks to Physic scream & Dustbreaker...Corridor creepers with pirate package is in all aggro decks.....the RNG effect that just keeps deciding games...etc. etc.
So I just heard of this game called Etheral(even though it was released a year ago lol) I just finished the tutorial and the game feels much like MTG, it seems to have way more depths than HS where skill matters way more than luck of a draw or luck of RNG effects and I want to know if anyone has tried Etheral and can tell me more about this game in its current state.
- What is the meta like? Is it also dominated by a few tier 1 decks?
- How "F2P" is it compared to HS? Can you grind little more than someone who paid real cash and be somewhat competitive?
- Are there really powerful/OP cards? Are there completely useless cards? How balance are the cards?
- How big is the community? any of the pros playing Eternal?
Thanks in advance
I'll be a little blunt.. why are you asking a hearthstone thread about Eternal. That's like asking an Enternal thread about how to draft a hearthstone arena deck.
It's less about it being rude or not and more about how you'd probably get better information from the folks who are active in the game, even if some people play both.
https://www.reddit.com/r/EternalCardGame/
There you go. You could probably reference hearthstone as well as a good many who play eternal probably came from hearthstone.
One does not simply walk into Mordor,
unless they want to be the best they can be.
ya it's a total valid question here imo. i'd like to know the answers to your questions as well, though i don't have time to invest in another ccg myself.
Standard Legend - July '16 (Rank 56), June '17, Dec. '18, Apr. '19
Wild Legend - Mar. '18 (Rank 30), Apr. '18, Aug. '19
Twelve Arena Wins - Shaman, Warlock, Mage x2, Rogue, Priest (12-0), Druid, Hallow's End x2, Hunter, Taverns of Time x3 (Pa,D,WL), Paladin
I just started playing Eternal a week ago as well.
It's a varied perspective, but from an MTG background, I like it more than HS.
It reintroduces mana sources (Lands in MTG, Powers in Eternal) and with that, also reintroduces the consistency or inconsistency of drawing the wrong mana at the wrong time. It's a little easier than MTG, with the lands disconnected from the colors it taps for, essentially. You already figured this out if you've played through a few games.
1) Meta does change, especially since the third set Dusk Road came out a month ago, it's been back and forth. A website I found did list an assumed "current" meta roughly 10 days ago.
2) It's much more F2P than Hearthstone, but you'll still feel like you have a long ways to go, and you will. It's a grind to get the Shiftstone you need, but at the same time, there are semi-viable decks to play Gauntlet, Ranked, and Events. Your first win in Casual, Ranked or Draft will get you a free pack. In the beginning of the game, you quickly recieve free packs. Events are a fantastic way to get free packs. Packs contain 15 (I think?) cards, with one Rare or Legendary, a few uncommons, and many commons. After a week or so, you'll have 90% or more of the commons from all sets. I already do.
It's important to note, about the F2P, to consistently do Forge and Draft. You keep all cards from Forge and Draft. Do Forge (2.5k Gold, Hearthstone style draft versus AI) until you get to "Master Rank" which is not difficult at all. Do Gauntlet with budget grinder decks found online to nail in some more free gold until you get Master rank. That one is optional, I've found out. I haven't done it yet, but I know I should. The Rank Up Chests from each reward you with 2k Gold. Once you have 5k Gold, do drafts. You keep all the cards, so just pluck any Rares and Legendaries you see and try to craft a good deck around them. You'll get about 2 wins but you'll net a great benefit rather than straight up buying packs.
Summary of F2P: Yes, much easier than Hearthstone, but don't pretend you'll have competitive decks quickly.
3) Yes. Really powerful cards. There's a 5/7 that doesn't tap to attack and mills you five cards, drawing a Minotaur and Weapon from those 5, and giving them +5 attack each. Weapons are like Enchantments in MTG *and* Weapons in Hearthstone -- I'm sure you've figured that out if you've played the intro campaign. There are so many really strong cards, but at the same time, there is some equally good removal.
Balance is done as you expect: Commons are common and have a generalized effect. Uncommons are strictly better commons. Many people confuse "Strictly better" with "Power creep" -- That's the point. No one wants to play, "1 Mana: Draw a card" when you can play "1 mana: Give a creature flying. Draw a card." But some people may not want to spend Shiftstone on the better card, while they already own the cheaper card.
4) Pros? I'm not sure. I don't think so. It has a much smaller scene than Hearthstone and Magic: The Gathering, as expected. You'll find new streamers and pros, like LocoPojo, but I'm unsure if anyone in the current competative scene of Eternal are recognizeable.
The community is pretty nice so far. Eternal Warcry is the best comparison to Hearthpwn, I'm sure. They have Articles, Decks, Card search, etc. I'm not sure if they have a high quality Forum, and most Eternal players use Reddit. But even on Reddit, they've got some great content. Most of this I learned from a few Reddit searchs.
Hope you're having fun!
The Roshambo to Hearthstone. Please be nice. Don't insult or be mad at someone for throwing Rock.
I play both game alot. Beside graphic and lore, if we talk only about game play Eternal is just a better game. Period. But, somehow I always feel more satisfy winning a hearthstone game than an eternal game. The emotion, the rage, the salt, the unfair RNG god, ironicaly that kind of stuff always make me want to play HS more. Although Eternal clearly better gameplay wise. It is like a girl always run back to her abusive ex boyfriend hahaha. Hope this help. And to be honest, doesnt hurt to play both game.
What XoloRouge said. Also, I want to add that :
1) The meta is much, much slower to settle because there's less top level players working on the best decks and those decks are slower to circulate because there's less netdecking resources
3) A lot of the garbage cards even have their uses. Most of the higher rarity ones are very synergistic and seen in super wonky meme decks that still do decently against meta decks
4) I've seen some HS pros try out Eternal casually. None appear paid off, which is really interesting. Strifecro even reached Masters (Legend) with a deck he made himself a few months ago... I think it was a midrange or aggro Flen?
Legend with : S65 Freeze Mage, S57 Maly Gonk Druid, S57 "Okay" Shaman, S53 Boom-zooka Hunter, S53 Maly Tog Druid, S52 Wild Tog Druid ft.Blingtron, S50 Quest Rogue, S49 Dead Man's Warrior, S41 Wild Clown Fiesta Druid, S41 Hadronox Jade Druid, S40 Wild OTK Dragon Druid, S35 SMOrc Shaman, S33 Jade Druid, S22 Control Priest, S19 Control Priest
Eternal is one of the best card games out there, and I would give Faeria a try as well. It's good to take breaks from HS, but all card games will have issues with a stale meta tho.