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People here saying Defenitely no etc. have no clue how Hall of fame, game nerfs are used by team 5.

Sure its not a 100% change but there is no denial that this is a potentiasl candidate for a change set rotation or nerf just for the fact that it has charge and thus is easy abusible to combo cards.

But it reminds me of Fiery war axe discussion were people said that the card will never be changed or rotated and started to insult everybody who actually had a clue.

While its definitely not a 100% nerf hall of fame, just come here and writing no in the chat shows little knowledge about this game.

This is defnititely on Team 5`s list of possible fame cards. And i think it goes there wether or not there will be a problematic card in the next set that would otherwise break Cube/Combo, like Dreadsteed got nerfed because Deathspeaker and Defile were made.

 

 You say I know nothing about the game, for saying it wont go there for sure, but you can say it will go there "wether or not there will be a problematic card in the next set"... 

Did you look at the minions in HoF? All of them are neutral. They took the mana slot  in EVERY deck, thus limiting the use of other cards with the same cost. They also had way too powerful abilities.

Is any of these things true to Doomguard? No. Is cubelock as opressive as jade druid (before nerf), pirate warrior(before nerf), razakus priest (to name a few real cancer decks)? No. It's a tier 3 deck for god's sake, and no, doomguard isn't a staple in every warlock deck, thus it isnt limiting the use of other cards, which means it isn't necessary to move the card to HoF.  

Oh yeah, and basicaly its not even an otk deck, cause it cant deal 30+ dmg from hand like razakus, or quest mage/antonidas combo...

If only they had just changed the charge mechanic waaaaaaay back when it first started causing problems. I suppose now they think it's too late, or don't want to admit they've grossly mishandled the situation.

They could print so many awesome, interesting cards if they just made it so charging minions can't hit face on the turn they enter play. If there are cards that need to be able to hit face immediately, make them the exceptions.

That is not a difficult rule to learn. It takes exactly one game for a player to grasp the concept.

It is time to change the rule, or just go ahead and remove all charge from the game.

(Not that I think Cubelock is that big a deal right now or that Doomguard is particularly problematic, but the deck does indicate how easily the mechanic can be abused, and I do think it's likely to get worse over the course of the coming year.)

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People here saying Defenitely no etc. have no clue how Hall of fame, game nerfs are used by team 5.

Sure its not a 100% change but there is no denial that this is a potentiasl candidate for a change set rotation or nerf just for the fact that it has charge and thus is easy abusible to combo cards.

But it reminds me of Fiery war axe discussion were people said that the card will never be changed or rotated and started to insult everybody who actually had a clue.

While its definitely not a 100% nerf hall of fame, just come here and writing no in the chat shows little knowledge about this game.

This is defnititely on Team 5`s list of possible fame cards. And i think it goes there wether or not there will be a problematic card in the next set that would otherwise break Cube/Combo, like Dreadsteed got nerfed because Deathspeaker and Defile were made.

 

You say I know nothing about the game, for saying it wont go there for sure, but you can say it will go there "wether or not there will be a problematic card in the next set"... 

Did you look at the minions in HoF? All of them are neutral. They took the mana slot  in EVERY deck, thus limiting the use of other cards with the same cost. They also had way too powerful abilities.

Is any of these things true to Doomguard? No. Is cubelock as opressive as jade druid (before nerf), pirate warrior(before nerf), razakus priest (to name a few real cancer decks)? No. It's a tier 3 deck for god's sake, and no, doomguard isn't a staple in every warlock deck, thus it isnt limiting the use of other cards, which means it isn't necessary to move the card to HoF.  

Oh yeah, and basicaly its not even an otk deck, cause it cant deal 30+ dmg from hand like razakus, or quest mage/antonidas combo...

The issue is not Doomguard itself but the Charge mechanics; this ability is so good that even the heavy drawback of Doomguard (discard 2 cards!) is ok to get a 5/7 that can istantly attack your opponent's face. They've should reworked it already by making it able only to hit minions the turn when you play the charged-minion. I don't really know what they're waiting for.

Doomguard isn't exactly high on my list of priorities to send down to the hall of fame. It's powerful yes, but not broken.

I'd be more worried about getting Ice Block down to the hall of fame first. I consider myself a huge mage player and even I think that card is cheating.  It allows mages to ignore what your opponent's doing to the point where the mage is basically playing against itself. They either stall until they get the necessary burn/combo pieces or they scoop.