You can't make a tier one deck with $120, yet I can make Renounce Lock (which I purposefully crafted one of my Renounces golden for funsies), Mill Druid, what I was missing for Aviana K'Thun, and plenty of other decks to have fun with, all for free? Something doesn't pan out here, me thinks.
I spent 0$ for this expansion and the expensive decks Im not able to try out are those that requires multiple new epic cards. Like recruit pala and control warlock builds. I did craft creeper on the first day though.
Saved 1400 gold, spent no money. I have 800 dust and no meta decks, but on the other hand I am only a legendary away from pretty much all the best decks, which means that while I don't have any tier 1 decks, I practically have access to two of them (I think I could get a few thousand dust from useless or golden cards). Including the free packs and what I got after the expansion, I've opened 40 packs at most, probably less.
You see my point? Obviously the cause of your inability to compete in the meta is not the amount of KnC packs you bought, thus it is irrelevant and your argument is fallacious.
As a comparison, take the claim "I spent 30000€ on a new car and still can't reach legend."
I know I have posted this a few times already ... but it could be worse .. here is $10,000 in a DAY spent on mobile strike ... and that wasn't an uncommon thing. Coming from (surviving) that crazy addiction, I am quite happy that I spent $150 on K&C, and not quite $500 total on the game, and I have most of the cards I want or need.
I will say that I do understand a little of the pain. A lot of the cards that are in the top decks are older ones I don't have, and because they are rotating soon, I really don't want to craft them. In most cases, it is usually just 1 or 2 cards, and I will just tech in the bast card I can, and hope for the best. And, I have crafted plenty of legendary cards that I regret, but that's part of the learning curve. After the card rotation, I feel I should be in a pretty good spot (from a collection standpoint) ... until then, I just make due with what I have, and try to have fun. There probably wont be a Legend title under my name for a while, but that's not the end of the world for me.
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I just make due with what I have, and try to have fun. There probably wont be a Legend title under my name for a while, but that's not the end of the world for me.
I promise that the completeness of your collection is not nearly as important to making legend as your knowledge and play style. Also, doing it with a restricted collection I think can even make it more fun.
The entire cost moaning community is made up of people who largely have ego issues and don't actually inherently enjoy the game itself.
I have access to nearly every card, I'm cruising around at rank 15 intentionally playing random decks, just enjoying hearthstone. The game is whatever you make it, the fun is there and it's a FREE game. FREE.
Also if you have the money to spend and enjoy the game, it's a false economy equating £45 to a waste when it's take you more than £45's worth of man time to grind out the packs you enjoy opening. Silly, why would I grind out 40 packs when I can pay less than the time equivalent for a chance at things I want. Freeing up time for me to just play the game in a manner I enjoy. I'm loving my awful giant priest deck. It works about 30% of the time but what the hell, it's been fun trying a concept.
Hearhtstone is getting bored since standard mode, they really fucked up. The best moment I had was when naxxramas released and they should make few balances to meta being stable and should be fine. If they still looking for making this fun they are far from that. I really think introducing a test server should being okay to community feedback the next expansions and how meta it is but blizzard doens't care so here we are.
Jesus man, what’re you a drug dealer or somethin’ 10k on a fucking mobile app?? Jesus......
lol .. no. Legitimate business owner with a more than legitimate addiction to a stupid game. I spent well into 6 figures on the game in about 1 year. I was able to recoup quite a bit of it, but still ended up spending somewhere between $30-40k after the dust settled.
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I wanna glide down, over Mulholland I wanna write her, name in the sky I wanna free fall, out into nothin' Gonna leave this, world for awhile
Ive spent 130 euros and I feel good: I love TCGs and I mostly play on Casual (I make the fast climb to 15 on the last few days for the golden rare but thats it). Ive spent far less on HS than on LotR TCG, Yugioh and MTG and I have had more fun on HS than all the others
My problem isn't enjoyment of the gameplay but the value I get from investment.
Don't spend money on the game. Simple.
The issue that keeps cropping up with every expansion is that there is this need to collect every shiny new card in the game. If anyone thinks that can be accomplished by throwing money at blind packs, then that's their real problem. The system isn't designed to give you the specific thing you are looking for. Which should be obvious.
The thing that I find interesting about these posts is that the people who are the most upset are the ones who continuously dump money into the game with every expansion. They have the largest collections and yet are the most unsatisfied.
Dude, waste your money on other things. $120 is what I pay for a month on the beach with my friends with food, place, beers and gas. With that you could even date someone you like and invite her to a fancy place, 3 times. You could even go with that money into a real casino and maybe you could get more money back, last week I entered with $10 on a blackjack game and went home with a full stomach and $60. Really fun night. Abandon this kid's game, memories are lame with this and youth won't come back.
The fact that you are telling him what to spend his money on and how to have fun is funny enough. Then when you brought in gambling i actually starting laughing. 69/10 would spend my money on a "kids game" then lose it at a casino like an "adult"
$120 is 20% the average american of my ages monthly income. Blizzard is not hurt for money and this game keeps getting more expensive with every expansion. I think this is an honest problem that can be fixed if anyone wants to have an honest conversation about it. I can't imagine being a new player today and even pro's are complaining about the cost.
It's not even 3% of my monthly income and I still don't spend that on Hearthstone. I simply saved up over 7000 gold and got plenty of cards and have have dust to spare in case something pops up in the meta a month from now. It's more than affordable and you're just peddling some bullshit argument you read somewhere else and you think you are special. Most people have called you out for what you are, a bad decision maker.
Also, you seem to have no knowledge of economics. The in game costs are what they are because the demand is there at that price. Supply and demand decide the price. Not some fuckboy on a forum who makes paltry money, blows it on Hearthstone, gets salty about his blown money, and makes a post about the "cost" of the game when he's really just salty about his poor decision making skills. People need to get used to the fact that the laws of supply and demand make the cost what it is, not individual opinions. Don't like it, don't buy it. And don't forget you aren't guaranteed shit. Packs are random just like any other CCG.
As always, the game comes down to perspective in relation to money.
If you're comparing it to other phone games, yeah, this game's damned expensive to keep up with. I can't fathom dropping $300 every 4 months on a phone game.
However, if you're of the mindset of comparing it to other cards games (say, Magic The Gathering for example), this game is painfully cheap to amass a proper collection in comparison. If I spent $120 on magic cards, I may have a viable sealed deck and not much else. I could maybe rock the budget decks of all common/uncommons, but that would change in a few months anyway.
I've bought the pre-release 50, 2 blocks of 60 for $80 and one set of $50 for $60. So, I'm sitting at $270 and I've got pretty much the whole set sans 5-6 epics that I don't use. Thanks to the new legendary rule, I have all the legends (which was a huge cost saving measure introduced by Blizzard that I don't think gets enough recognition.) As a Magic player, dropping $270 for a full playable set is a bargain. And now I'm done spending until March or April. For a four month stretch, that's roughly $70 a month. Seems fine.
I get why some people would find that to be an insane barrier. I'm not disputing it, but at the same time, there's plenty of reason to think you're getting value on your $.
The fact that you are telling him what to spend his money on and how to have fun is funny enough. Then when you brought in gambling i actually starting laughing. 69/10 would spend my money on a "kids game" then lose it at a casino like an "adult"
I forgot you people may have no friends or have never been with a girl. Perhaps my comment should have not been posted here. Enjoy wasting your time playing hearthstone! these years of cute plays will always be remembered when you are old
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You only need 1800 dust worth of kc cards for murlic paladin.
No one cares. Sounds like you woulnt be able to win even if you had every card in the game.
You can't make a tier one deck with $120, yet I can make Renounce Lock (which I purposefully crafted one of my Renounces golden for funsies), Mill Druid, what I was missing for Aviana K'Thun, and plenty of other decks to have fun with, all for free? Something doesn't pan out here, me thinks.
I spent 0$ for this expansion and the expensive decks Im not able to try out are those that requires multiple new epic cards. Like recruit pala and control warlock builds. I did craft creeper on the first day though.
Saved 1400 gold, spent no money. I have 800 dust and no meta decks, but on the other hand I am only a legendary away from pretty much all the best decks, which means that while I don't have any tier 1 decks, I practically have access to two of them (I think I could get a few thousand dust from useless or golden cards). Including the free packs and what I got after the expansion, I've opened 40 packs at most, probably less.
You see my point? Obviously the cause of your inability to compete in the meta is not the amount of KnC packs you bought, thus it is irrelevant and your argument is fallacious.
As a comparison, take the claim "I spent 30000€ on a new car and still can't reach legend."
To put your 120$ in perspective, I’ve bought a car with the money I got from selling my MtG collection.
Hearthstone is pretty cheap compared to MtG.
I know I have posted this a few times already ... but it could be worse .. here is $10,000 in a DAY spent on mobile strike ... and that wasn't an uncommon thing. Coming from (surviving) that crazy addiction, I am quite happy that I spent $150 on K&C, and not quite $500 total on the game, and I have most of the cards I want or need.
I will say that I do understand a little of the pain. A lot of the cards that are in the top decks are older ones I don't have, and because they are rotating soon, I really don't want to craft them. In most cases, it is usually just 1 or 2 cards, and I will just tech in the bast card I can, and hope for the best. And, I have crafted plenty of legendary cards that I regret, but that's part of the learning curve. After the card rotation, I feel I should be in a pretty good spot (from a collection standpoint) ... until then, I just make due with what I have, and try to have fun. There probably wont be a Legend title under my name for a while, but that's not the end of the world for me.
I wanna glide down, over Mulholland
I wanna write her, name in the sky
I wanna free fall, out into nothin'
Gonna leave this, world for awhile
Jesus man, what’re you a drug dealer or somethin’ 10k on a fucking mobile app?? Jesus......
The entire cost moaning community is made up of people who largely have ego issues and don't actually inherently enjoy the game itself.
I have access to nearly every card, I'm cruising around at rank 15 intentionally playing random decks, just enjoying hearthstone. The game is whatever you make it, the fun is there and it's a FREE game. FREE.
Also if you have the money to spend and enjoy the game, it's a false economy equating £45 to a waste when it's take you more than £45's worth of man time to grind out the packs you enjoy opening. Silly, why would I grind out 40 packs when I can pay less than the time equivalent for a chance at things I want. Freeing up time for me to just play the game in a manner I enjoy. I'm loving my awful giant priest deck. It works about 30% of the time but what the hell, it's been fun trying a concept.
Hearhtstone is getting bored since standard mode, they really fucked up. The best moment I had was when naxxramas released and they should make few balances to meta being stable and should be fine. If they still looking for making this fun they are far from that. I really think introducing a test server should being okay to community feedback the next expansions and how meta it is but blizzard doens't care so here we are.
I wanna glide down, over Mulholland
I wanna write her, name in the sky
I wanna free fall, out into nothin'
Gonna leave this, world for awhile
Ive spent 130 euros and I feel good: I love TCGs and I mostly play on Casual (I make the fast climb to 15 on the last few days for the golden rare but thats it). Ive spent far less on HS than on LotR TCG, Yugioh and MTG and I have had more fun on HS than all the others
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Don't spend money on the game. Simple.
The issue that keeps cropping up with every expansion is that there is this need to collect every shiny new card in the game. If anyone thinks that can be accomplished by throwing money at blind packs, then that's their real problem. The system isn't designed to give you the specific thing you are looking for. Which should be obvious.
The thing that I find interesting about these posts is that the people who are the most upset are the ones who continuously dump money into the game with every expansion. They have the largest collections and yet are the most unsatisfied.
Dude, waste your money on other things. $120 is what I pay for a month on the beach with my friends with food, place, beers and gas. With that you could even date someone you like and invite her to a fancy place, 3 times. You could even go with that money into a real casino and maybe you could get more money back, last week I entered with $10 on a blackjack game and went home with a full stomach and $60. Really fun night. Abandon this kid's game, memories are lame with this and youth won't come back.
The fact that you are telling him what to spend his money on and how to have fun is funny enough. Then when you brought in gambling i actually starting laughing. 69/10 would spend my money on a "kids game" then lose it at a casino like an "adult"
Totally agree.
I am a free to play user and the reason why I keep playing is the chance of getting new cards from quest's gold, slowly building my collection.
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As always, the game comes down to perspective in relation to money.
If you're comparing it to other phone games, yeah, this game's damned expensive to keep up with. I can't fathom dropping $300 every 4 months on a phone game.
However, if you're of the mindset of comparing it to other cards games (say, Magic The Gathering for example), this game is painfully cheap to amass a proper collection in comparison. If I spent $120 on magic cards, I may have a viable sealed deck and not much else. I could maybe rock the budget decks of all common/uncommons, but that would change in a few months anyway.
I've bought the pre-release 50, 2 blocks of 60 for $80 and one set of $50 for $60. So, I'm sitting at $270 and I've got pretty much the whole set sans 5-6 epics that I don't use. Thanks to the new legendary rule, I have all the legends (which was a huge cost saving measure introduced by Blizzard that I don't think gets enough recognition.) As a Magic player, dropping $270 for a full playable set is a bargain. And now I'm done spending until March or April. For a four month stretch, that's roughly $70 a month. Seems fine.
I get why some people would find that to be an insane barrier. I'm not disputing it, but at the same time, there's plenty of reason to think you're getting value on your $.