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I don't wanna hear anyone complain about a "stale" meta ...

With K&C, we probably have more options for decks out right now, than I have ever witnessed, 

But yet the vast majority still insist on playing the same decks, and many of those are just freaking tired repeats of the last several months.

With everything new to choose from, why the hell would you play Jade Druid? Or Raza Priest? 

Why are half the people playing Mage, and the other half playing Priest? Ya all know there are 9 classes, right? And pretty much all of them have a decent deck in there somewhere. 

All the early hype of The Darkness ... I have literally NEVER seen the card played ... not once. 

Recruit Warrior .. nope .. not a single time. 

So really .. the "staleness" of the game ... I am starting to think it is self inflicted. 

Get out and try something new, or something old that hasn't worked in a while. Hell, one of the most effective decks I have played for climbing the early ladder has been a Pirate(ish) Warrior, with some recruit sprinkled in, and spellstones ... and even Spiteful Summoner. 

Seriously ... get out there and experiment a little. I usually am one of the last people to complain about net-decking, because I just as guilty of it as anyone ... but seeing the same 2 or 3 decks over and over and over right now is just nuts. There are so many options out there right now.  

I agree with this completely. K&C has given us the most tools for deckbuilding we've seen in the game's history. This is mostly due to the new recruit mechanic opening a lot of deckbuilding options, as well as having the biggest Hearthstone standard meta ever with over 1000 cards. All classes seem viable save maybe Shaman. Evolve Shammy was top tier last meta though, so it should still be pretty good. As a side note, that Pirateish warrior deck with Spiteful Summoner and Mithril Spellstone is actually one of the top decks on Vicious Syndicate atm which is pretty cool considering you made it yourself.

the truth is the most fun of all is winning, and you have the best chance to win with the tier 1 decks, wich are always 2-3 decks at best. 

I guess you now understand why netdecking is a serious issue in Hearthstone. Of course there are plenty of fun decks anyone could play at any given moment, but since they aren't tier one they will see minimal play.

The thing is, experimentation dreams are being crushed by patches into creeper into scalebane/bonemare, jade decks, keleseth decks and aggro/murloc paladins. Conceptually boring cards are boring in reality and these are a crazy high power level, and insanely easy to play at maximum potential.

Thankfully plenty of peope are still trying bravely to experiement on ladder but you can see where the meta is headed till we get the rotation.

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The thing is, experimentation dreams are being crushed by patches into creeper into scalebane/bonemare, jade decks, keleseth decks and aggro/murloc paladins. Conceptually boring cards are boring in reality and these are a crazy high power level, and insanely easy to play at maximum potential.

Thankfully plenty of peope are still trying bravely to experiement on ladder but you can see where the meta is headed till we get the rotation.

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I agree with this completely. K&C has given us the most tools for deckbuilding we've seen in the game's history. This is mostly due to the new recruit mechanic opening a lot of deckbuilding options, as well as having the biggest Hearthstone standard meta ever with over 1000 cards. All classes seem viable save maybe Shaman. Evolve Shammy was top tier last meta though, so it should still be pretty good. As a side note, that Pirateish warrior deck with Spiteful Summoner and Mithril Spellstone is actually one of the top decks on Vicious Syndicate atm which is pretty cool considering you made it yourself.

“I don’t want to hear anyone complain...”

*Continues to go out of his/her way to create a new post only to complain.*

Quote from zzAMBIENzz >>

Get out and try something new, or something old that hasn't worked in a while. Hell, one of the most effective decks I have played for climbing the early ladder has been a Pirate(ish) Warrior, with some recruit sprinkled in, and spellstones ... and even Spiteful Summoner.  

That was also one of the Trinity series decks. Oh, the irony.

I love how you only mentioned aggressive or tempo cards as well as jades. Raza Priest isn't sucking the life out of everyone at all. I mean I hate those cards too but, I also see the evil in slower things. For some reason, degenerate things are seen as ok as long as they are slower even though Otks with a ton of board clears and Stal is textbook degeneracy.

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I guess you now understand why netdecking is a serious issue in all card games. Of course there are plenty of fun decks anyone could play at any given moment, but since they aren't tier one they will see minimal play.

Yeah, but "fun" decks don't count.  Take Shaman.  It's a clown class now, competitively.  But has some "fun" archetypes to try out: overload, totem, elementals, but they aren't competitive and their once tier 1 Evolve deck is now lower tier 3, at best.  So you can build decks and ladder down to 11-12, or play in casual mode for some laughs.  But nearly every other deck out there will just destroy you.

In Un'goro there were six tier 1 decks.  Six.  This meta is stale already because the idiots at blizzard gave the best decks even more tools, and they augmented the most annoying aspects of the powerful classes. Every time I wonder how on earth a broken card like Creeper makes it to production, I remember Undertaker, Mysterious Challenger, Spirit Claws, Grim Patron, and Ultimate Infestation also made it production. I've nearly lost all faith that Blizzard can objectively look at their game and balance competitive edge with fun.  They just can't do it.

Unfortunatelly the majority of players have 0 imagination  and ability to even create a deck.So asking them to stop taking  the easy route of copypasting the 3 best decks is like asking from aggro players in casual to stop being  degenerate bming imbeciles or from the fish to stop swimming :P

Complainers about stale meta are clearly not the same people who play old meta decks now. I don't think staleness is self-inflicted. It is inflicted by a part of the playerbase.

Evideny, staleness feeling is not as widespread and/or hurtful as we think.

Most importantly, a meta does not shift with a mere release. It shifts with new decks, that need refinement and their time to become trendy on their own.

Keep going with new stuff and refinement. Eventually, you will contribute to enforce the meta shift.

For me this expansion is about combos, making fun decks and .......... MEMES!!!!!!!!!!!!:

Quote from zzAMBIENzz >>

Why are half the people playing Mage, and the other half playing Priest? Ya all know there are 9 classes, right?

We have Hunter too, it's just Giants Hunter :feelsbadman:

I'm having a lot of fun with a zola kazakus mage, it's just hard to win a hard fought game after 20 min then lose in 2 min to the nuts aggro deck

I agree there are tons of possible decks but 99% of them lose turn 7 against pirate creeper, so they are not viable for ladder. The sad part: you see those pirate decks at casual too :/

The problem for all those pirate/mage/andiun decks: they are cheaper than all of the new decks and performe extremely good. Also you get frustrated to play a "new" deck really easy if you lose before turn 10 against them, so you join the club of stale meta :/

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Get out and try something new, or something old that hasn't worked in a while. Hell, one of the most effective decks I have played for climbing the early ladder has been a Pirate(ish) Warrior, with some recruit sprinkled in, and spellstones ... and even Spiteful Summoner.  

That was also one of the Trinity series decks. Oh, the irony.