I am playing hearthstone like one and half year. I opened 40 kobolds packs with my golds and still I can't play any new competitive decks. I dont have already bunch of necessary cards from early expansions. I opened some packs with real money for early expansions but at the same time I crafted some wild cards because I love wild. Some people always says If you play arena 7/24 you can play expensive comp decks, If you grind hard, If you craft wisely, If you be a good boy... Yes, I am playing arena and I am spending my sources smartly, I am trying to be rank 5 every month but dude, It is a CASUAL GAME. I am not a worker working with minimum wage, I am playing game and try to have fun but I have to act like worker because I am not spending enough bucks. I have to be careful about every dust and every gold I spend, even I am not entirely f2p player. Compared to other f2p card games or even any other f2p game, hearthstone is more expensive. For instance, I am playing gwent for 4 months but I have almost entire set and I can play any competitive deck I want.( I am not gwent fanboy and I know, gwent have less cards but still there is no comparison) You can say "You can delete the game" but after all, I like to play hearthstone.
If you aren’t getting what you want from the game, and can not afford more cards or the grind, best to put it down. The game is for fun after all. If you aren’t having fun then don’t play. Otherwise, just try and be patient and grind and buy more cards :)
I know what you mean. I've owned the game for at least a year now I'd say and I still don't have a decent collection it feels like. I can't play whatever fun decks I feel like playing. I'm a full on f2p person and I've never made it past rank 15 but I don't care. I came to hearthstone not so much to be good at hearthstone but to fill the deckbuilding hole that I enjoy doing. I like building fun decks and making them work. I couldn't care less if I never reached legend. I'll play the game as long as I can play decks that I enjoy and not get whooped by competitive decks 24/7 (I was close to deleting this game when quest rogue was a thing, when jade druid was a thing, when pirate warrior was a thing... the list goes on and on)
But I'll probably still play the game because there's always a fun new interaction to explot or a combo to try and pull off or a janky deck that needs revising.
This expansion seems a lot less expensive than Gadgetzan, Un'goro and Icecrown. Most of the best cards from KaC are commons and rares.
There is no meta. We're still in the experimentation stage, everyone is jamming in mediocre legendaries into their decks just to see how they work but that doesn't necessarily mean they are good.
And not many new archetypes have been spawned so far. You can play a pre-KaC deck with like, 3-4 new commons/rares in it and have the same success (or better) than you did before.
What you say is true: to play Hearthstone competitevely, you need either money either patience...
In addition, you're a new player and you had yourself the burden of needing the old sets to play wild? That is the exact reason why they created standard: to enable new players to become competitive more easily (and it's still expensive or long)
What you say is true: to play Hearthstone competitevely, you need either money either patience...
In addition, you're a new player and you had yourself the burden of needing the old sets to play wild? That is the exact reason why they created standard: to enable new players to become competitive more easily (and it's still expensive or long)
Actually I played long ago for a short time and I bought loe and bm adventures before the wild exists.
i'm completly f2p and all i can say is no the game isnt fair and it will never be, blizzard already gives us free stuff and they are doing it more and more often.
Meta decks were made BY players, now they had to test it out and tune it abit usually players with a large poll of cards that can do that easily, as a f2p player you got but a handful of choices. 1- craft 1/2 decks you want to play and stick to them for the remaining of the expansion(unless you get lucky on packs) 2-ignore the meta and build your own deck 3-build a cheaper version of the deck you want. Sometimes it won't be possible like machine gun priest needs raza, andwin etc but in some decks its possible like quest warrior and such.
All in all if you think it is unfair, it is but you already get so much from blizzard you should look back at how much they helped you till now.
i'm completly f2p and all i can say is no the game isnt fair and it will never be, blizzard already gives us free stuff and they are doing it more and more often.
Meta decks were made BY players, now they had to test it out and tune it abit usually players with a large poll of cards that can do that easily, as a f2p player you got but a handful of choices. 1- craft 1/2 decks you want to play and stick to them for the remaining of the expansion(unless you get lucky on packs) 2-ignore the meta and build your own deck 3-build a cheaper version of the deck you want. Sometimes it won't be possible like machine gun priest needs raza, andwin etc but in some decks its possible like quest warrior and such.
All in all if you think it is unfair, it is but you already get so much from blizzard you should look back at how much they helped you till now.
Blizzard didnt help anybody. They removed adventures and gived little gifts. You can look adventure/expansion price comparison.
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The difficulty of acquiring new cards has its advantages. Everyone who spends a gazillion dollars on packs crafts every deck they want on day one and consequently loses interest in the expansion less than a month in. Not having all the cards gives you a goal to work towards and keeps you occupied until the next expansion drops. It also makes it so the cards and decks you do manage to obtain feel more special. Demanding access to every card is short sighted. It will make you feel better about your status immediately, but worse later.
I am playing hearthstone like one and half year. I opened 40 kobolds packs with my golds and still I can't play any new competitive decks. I dont have already bunch of necessary cards from early expansions. I opened some packs with real money for early expansions but at the same time I crafted some wild cards because I love wild. Some people always says If you play arena 7/24 you can play expensive comp decks, If you grind hard, If you craft wisely, If you be a good boy... Yes, I am playing arena and I am spending my sources smartly, I am trying to be rank 5 every month but dude, It is a CASUAL GAME. I am not a worker working with minimum wage, I am playing game and try to have fun but I have to act like worker because I am not spending enough bucks. I have to be careful about every dust and every gold I spend, even I am not entirely f2p player. Compared to other f2p card games or even any other f2p game, hearthstone is more expensive. For instance, I am playing gwent for 4 months but I have almost entire set and I can play any competitive deck I want.( I am not gwent fanboy and I know, gwent have less cards but still there is no comparison) You can say "You can delete the game" but after all, I like to play hearthstone.
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If you aren't a minimum wage worker than you should definitely have some spending money to buy packs with.
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I wouldn't say it's unfair but I would say that it's unreasonable.
The difference is that Blizzard is a company and they're out to make money. The majority of their money come from "whales" (or players who regularly throw down hundreds of dollars per expansion) but they also want to encourage players to purchase packs, arena runs, hero portraits, etc. so if they were too generous then we'd have very little reason to give them any money at all. It's perfectly fair to expect a company to give us little to no freebies, but Blizzard doesn't do that. They regularly give out free packs for signing in, for random tasks (like signing up for an AmazonPrime account), for promoting their new expansions, etc. Add that to the packs you get from Arena, and gold you get from daily quests and it is entirely possible to collect *every* card without spending a dime.
That is unreasonable, however. It is unreasonable because, given all the expansions and adventures released every year, to get all the cards you need without spending any money you would need to spend *at least* 1-2 hours a day playing the game. 1-2 hours a day, every day. I read you loud and clear when you say you're a casual player because so am I. Not only do I have real world responsibilities that mean I'm lucky to get even ONE hour a day on video games but I don't always want to play Hearthstone. Sometimes I want to play Crusader Kings 2. Sometimes I want to play Stardew Valley. Sometimes I want to play card games with my wife, you know what I'm saying? I like Hearthstone, but this isn't a lifestyle choice, you know? Nobody, especially not Blizzard, can expect me to devote the amount of time I would need to make this game completely F2P. It is an unreasonable expectation.
Now, I know some snarky little cowboy is going to flippantly remark something like 'wah, wah, don't like it, don't play it' and to them I say "you're right." and they are. If I'm not going to devote every day to Hearthstone I'm not going to get all the cards and if I don't have all the card I simply cannot compete in Standard...Period. This is a truism. I, like you, struggle to get past Rank 15 because my Bog Creepers and Feral Spirits aren't going to beat their Sunkeeper Tarims and Frost Lich Jainas no matter how intelligently I play. It's just something you have to accept: You either die a newfag or play long enough to see yourself become the cancer.
Just play for fun. If you really want ftp decks like face hunter can hit legend, but that isnt fun and is super time consuming. Just try to do shenanigans and not focus on winning. If that doesnt work I don't know if HS is the right game for you
I'm waiting for the day when Blizzard decides they don't care that much about classic anymore, and they give everyone the complete set of classic for free, automatically, from day 1 of creating an account.
Hearthstone has never been a fair or competitive game.
Either Quit and play a fair game or invest better, if you are trying to be competitive in standard then don't bother with Wild that format is trash anyways.
Put all your resources in one class if you have to.
I'm a 100% F2P Player and I only play Priest. I reach Rank 3 or higher still. Play arena, invest in 1 class, and leave Wild alone.
In the meantime, here is a semi-competitive deck that is doing OK for me around rank 10. I wanted something more simple than what I had been messing with, so tried this out. Works OK. Super cheap.
So ur crying about hs and praising gwent when gwent has way less expac ok so get back to me when gwent is hs expac level and tell me if u still can play all the decks with no money
I feel your pain op. and everybody mentioning "there are still old deck types you can win with" that is not the point, i can get legend any month i wish if i want to, but hearthstone doesnt fill the competitive niche for me because imo it just isnt very competitive compared to other card games. I prepurchased the set, and what I am wanting is to be able to experiment with fun and new decks, and even with my 50+ packs, I cannot do that.
I am playing hearthstone like one and half year. I opened 40 kobolds packs with my golds and still I can't play any new competitive decks. I dont have already bunch of necessary cards from early expansions. I opened some packs with real money for early expansions but at the same time I crafted some wild cards because I love wild. Some people always says If you play arena 7/24 you can play expensive comp decks, If you grind hard, If you craft wisely, If you be a good boy... Yes, I am playing arena and I am spending my sources smartly, I am trying to be rank 5 every month but dude, It is a CASUAL GAME. I am not a worker working with minimum wage, I am playing game and try to have fun but I have to act like worker because I am not spending enough bucks. I have to be careful about every dust and every gold I spend, even I am not entirely f2p player. Compared to other f2p card games or even any other f2p game, hearthstone is more expensive. For instance, I am playing gwent for 4 months but I have almost entire set and I can play any competitive deck I want.( I am not gwent fanboy and I know, gwent have less cards but still there is no comparison) You can say "You can delete the game" but after all, I like to play hearthstone.
Sorry for my bed england
If you aren’t getting what you want from the game, and can not afford more cards or the grind, best to put it down. The game is for fun after all. If you aren’t having fun then don’t play. Otherwise, just try and be patient and grind and buy more cards :)
I know what you mean. I've owned the game for at least a year now I'd say and I still don't have a decent collection it feels like. I can't play whatever fun decks I feel like playing. I'm a full on f2p person and I've never made it past rank 15 but I don't care. I came to hearthstone not so much to be good at hearthstone but to fill the deckbuilding hole that I enjoy doing. I like building fun decks and making them work. I couldn't care less if I never reached legend. I'll play the game as long as I can play decks that I enjoy and not get whooped by competitive decks 24/7 (I was close to deleting this game when quest rogue was a thing, when jade druid was a thing, when pirate warrior was a thing... the list goes on and on)
But I'll probably still play the game because there's always a fun new interaction to explot or a combo to try and pull off or a janky deck that needs revising.
That's why I play the game
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Hit rank 15 with a homebrew back in the KOFT days.
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This expansion seems a lot less expensive than Gadgetzan, Un'goro and Icecrown. Most of the best cards from KaC are commons and rares.
There is no meta. We're still in the experimentation stage, everyone is jamming in mediocre legendaries into their decks just to see how they work but that doesn't necessarily mean they are good.
And not many new archetypes have been spawned so far. You can play a pre-KaC deck with like, 3-4 new commons/rares in it and have the same success (or better) than you did before.
Yes it is unfair...
What you say is true: to play Hearthstone competitevely, you need either money either patience...
In addition, you're a new player and you had yourself the burden of needing the old sets to play wild? That is the exact reason why they created standard: to enable new players to become competitive more easily (and it's still expensive or long)
Actually I played long ago for a short time and
i'm completly f2p and all i can say is no the game isnt fair and it will never be, blizzard already gives us free stuff and they are doing it more and more often.
Meta decks were made BY players, now they had to test it out and tune it abit usually players with a large poll of cards that can do that easily, as a f2p player you got but a handful of choices. 1- craft 1/2 decks you want to play and stick to them for the remaining of the expansion(unless you get lucky on packs) 2-ignore the meta and build your own deck 3-build a cheaper version of the deck you want. Sometimes it won't be possible like machine gun priest needs raza, andwin etc but in some decks its possible like quest warrior and such.
All in all if you think it is unfair, it is but you already get so much from blizzard you should look back at how much they helped you till now.
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The difficulty of acquiring new cards has its advantages. Everyone who spends a gazillion dollars on packs crafts every deck they want on day one and consequently loses interest in the expansion less than a month in. Not having all the cards gives you a goal to work towards and keeps you occupied until the next expansion drops. It also makes it so the cards and decks you do manage to obtain feel more special. Demanding access to every card is short sighted. It will make you feel better about your status immediately, but worse later.
Hey all F2P players out there! Try out my 100% free deck before trying to call this game pay to win!!!
I wouldn't say it's unfair but I would say that it's unreasonable.
The difference is that Blizzard is a company and they're out to make money. The majority of their money come from "whales" (or players who regularly throw down hundreds of dollars per expansion) but they also want to encourage players to purchase packs, arena runs, hero portraits, etc. so if they were too generous then we'd have very little reason to give them any money at all. It's perfectly fair to expect a company to give us little to no freebies, but Blizzard doesn't do that. They regularly give out free packs for signing in, for random tasks (like signing up for an AmazonPrime account), for promoting their new expansions, etc. Add that to the packs you get from Arena, and gold you get from daily quests and it is entirely possible to collect *every* card without spending a dime.
That is unreasonable, however. It is unreasonable because, given all the expansions and adventures released every year, to get all the cards you need without spending any money you would need to spend *at least* 1-2 hours a day playing the game. 1-2 hours a day, every day. I read you loud and clear when you say you're a casual player because so am I. Not only do I have real world responsibilities that mean I'm lucky to get even ONE hour a day on video games but I don't always want to play Hearthstone. Sometimes I want to play Crusader Kings 2. Sometimes I want to play Stardew Valley. Sometimes I want to play card games with my wife, you know what I'm saying? I like Hearthstone, but this isn't a lifestyle choice, you know? Nobody, especially not Blizzard, can expect me to devote the amount of time I would need to make this game completely F2P. It is an unreasonable expectation.
Now, I know some snarky little cowboy is going to flippantly remark something like 'wah, wah, don't like it, don't play it' and to them I say "you're right." and they are. If I'm not going to devote every day to Hearthstone I'm not going to get all the cards and if I don't have all the card I simply cannot compete in Standard...Period. This is a truism. I, like you, struggle to get past Rank 15 because my Bog Creepers and Feral Spirits aren't going to beat their Sunkeeper Tarims and Frost Lich Jainas no matter how intelligently I play. It's just something you have to accept: You either die a newfag or play long enough to see yourself become the cancer.
Just play for fun. If you really want ftp decks like face hunter can hit legend, but that isnt fun and is super time consuming. Just try to do shenanigans and not focus on winning. If that doesnt work I don't know if HS is the right game for you
I'm waiting for the day when Blizzard decides they don't care that much about classic anymore, and they give everyone the complete set of classic for free, automatically, from day 1 of creating an account.
I think I'll be waiting a long time.
Hearthstone has never been a fair or competitive game.
Either Quit and play a fair game or invest better, if you are trying to be competitive in standard then don't bother with Wild that format is trash anyways.
Put all your resources in one class if you have to.
I'm a 100% F2P Player and I only play Priest. I reach Rank 3 or higher still. Play arena, invest in 1 class, and leave Wild alone.
In the meantime, here is a semi-competitive deck that is doing OK for me around rank 10. I wanted something more simple than what I had been messing with, so tried this out. Works OK. Super cheap.
So ur crying about hs and praising gwent when gwent has way less expac ok so get back to me when gwent is hs expac level and tell me if u still can play all the decks with no money
Yea it's gotten pretty hard to keep up as ftp ever since they did away with adventures AND started releasing 2 legendaries per class.
I feel your pain op. and everybody mentioning "there are still old deck types you can win with" that is not the point, i can get legend any month i wish if i want to, but hearthstone doesnt fill the competitive niche for me because imo it just isnt very competitive compared to other card games. I prepurchased the set, and what I am wanting is to be able to experiment with fun and new decks, and even with my 50+ packs, I cannot do that.
Man people don't like losing is all I read here. A new expansion just fot out and all I'm playing is 1/3 games i lose but god I like it