"1) Raza priest will become tier 2/3 decks as lots of people including myself will be putting The Darkness into all my decks to shut them down. All the potential EZ big decks should make Raza priest miserable as well. If Raza continues to be tier 1, i'll probably quit HS."
Like skulking geist made Jade Druid tier 2/3 aswell, right? :D
I'm pretty sure there are stats out there confirming if Geist is played against Jade druid, their winrate drops alot. Problem is still UI being the too OP.
1- Priest in K&C will be the same Druid was in KoFT and will get some sort of nerf 'cause waaaaaay too many good cards;
2 - As much as Blizzard tried, Silver Hand Recruit Paladin still won't work as paladin's early game is still below average, thus losing to every single aggresive deck
3 - Control Warlock might be at its best state since the first standard rotation
1) Raza priest will become tier 2/3 decks as lots of people including myself will be putting The Darkness into all my decks to shut them down. All the potential EZ big decks should make Raza priest miserable as well. If Raza continues to be tier 1, i'll probably quit HS.
2) Any of the Druid decks that ramps hard will become top tier as will there isn't much from stopping them. Will look for the vid where turn 6 druid plays Kun + Medive => Twig + UI and instant conceal.
3) Tempo Rogue and Zoolock decks will become tier 2 as there are way too many AOEs now
Why exactly would The Darkness make Raza priest any less formidable?
It shuts down highlander decks as they have multiple versions of the candle in their deck, so Raza/Kazakus won't trigger (untill two candles are drawn).
Maybe. It won't last forever, and they'll still have the combo for late game against control matchups. I don't think it's the neuter many do. Psychic Scream will prolong the game long enough for them still. Also, this isn't Geist...not everyone is going to waste 1600 dust for one deck that is rotating out in a couple of months.
1) Raza priest will become tier 2/3 decks as lots of people including myself will be putting The Darkness into all my decks to shut them down. All the potential EZ big decks should make Raza priest miserable as well. If Raza continues to be tier 1, i'll probably quit HS.
2) Any of the Druid decks that ramps hard will become top tier as will there isn't much from stopping them. Will look for the vid where turn 6 druid plays Kun + Medive => Twig + UI and instant conceal.
3) Tempo Rogue and Zoolock decks will become tier 2 as there are way too many AOEs now
İ dont think the darkness will stop the razakus. They have death, kazakus potion and new board clear to deal with it
Are we still into this? The primary purpose of playing The Darkness is to deactivate Raza and Kaza because they will now have duplicates in their deck. The 20/20 is just Plan B is you will...you should not be counting the 20/20 as a win condition.
Can't see how The Darkness is a strong counter to Razakus. Yes, if you play him on curve he will be a pain in the ass but you really need to play him before the Priest plays Raza. If the priest plays Raza first the darkness only affects Kazakus, and he is dispensable. So the entire strategy of the darkness revolves around playing the darkness before Raza.
1) Raza priest will become tier 2/3 decks as lots of people including myself will be putting The Darkness into all my decks to shut them down. All the potential EZ big decks should make Raza priest miserable as well. If Raza continues to be tier 1, i'll probably quit HS.
2) Any of the Druid decks that ramps hard will become top tier as will there isn't much from stopping them. Will look for the vid where turn 6 druid plays Kun + Medive => Twig + UI and instant conceal.
3) Tempo Rogue and Zoolock decks will become tier 2 as there are way too many AOEs now
İ dont think the darkness will stop the razakus. They have death, kazakus potion and new board clear to deal with it
Are we still into this? The primary purpose of playing The Darkness is to deactivate Raza and Kaza because they will now have duplicates in their deck. The 20/20 is just Plan B is you will...you should not be counting the 20/20 as a win condition.
Can't see how The Darkness is a strong counter to Razakus. Yes, if you play him on curve he will be a pain in the ass but you really need to play him before the Priest plays Raza. If the priest plays Raza first the darkness only affects Kazakus, and he is dispensable. So the entire strategy of the darkness revolves around playing the darkness before Raza.
Well, as long as at least 2 candles aren't drawn, Raza will stay in hand, giving you a few turns to rat it out.
My prediction is that I will fail in the attempt to make my Jade Druid quicker by including recruit. I already realized that I can't put enough 4 drops into the deck to guarantee value from recruit on average. Therefore I will include Astral Tiger and realize that it just is not good enough to be happy about it getting back in the deck. And then I will give up on my plans for Druid and try recruit with Paladin (feels more realistic btu I didn't put much though in yet).
Other predictions: The Darkness will fail harder in taming Razakus priest than I with building my recruit Jade Druid. Cave Hydra will turn out to be not good enough and Grumble, Worldshaker will not have a viable deck to go into.
1) Priest won't be the best class, because Rogue takes that spot.
2) A spell-less Hunter deck or one with a few specific minions will turn out to be surprisingly viable (as in: "not meme" tier)
3) Druid will fight Rogue for that top spot in terms of class strength. How often did we see that already: Everyone talks about everything else besides Druid, but at the end Druid turned to be the best or at least 2nd best class. I see the same happening again this time around.
4) Because the last one kinda belonged to 1), here is another one: Zola the Gorgon will only see very niche play.
1) Raza priest will become tier 2/3 decks as lots of people including myself will be putting The Darkness into all my decks to shut them down. All the potential EZ big decks should make Raza priest miserable as well. If Raza continues to be tier 1, i'll probably quit HS.
2) Any of the Druid decks that ramps hard will become top tier as will there isn't much from stopping them. Will look for the vid where turn 6 druid plays Kun + Medive => Twig + UI and instant conceal.
3) Tempo Rogue and Zoolock decks will become tier 2 as there are way too many AOEs now
İ dont think the darkness will stop the razakus. They have death, kazakus potion and new board clear to deal with it
Are we still into this? The primary purpose of playing The Darkness is to deactivate Raza and Kaza because they will now have duplicates in their deck. The 20/20 is just Plan B is you will...you should not be counting the 20/20 as a win condition.
Can't see how The Darkness is a strong counter to Razakus. Yes, if you play him on curve he will be a pain in the ass but you really need to play him before the Priest plays Raza. If the priest plays Raza first the darkness only affects Kazakus, and he is dispensable. So the entire strategy of the darkness revolves around playing the darkness before Raza.
Well, as long as at least 2 candles aren't drawn, Raza will stay in hand, giving you a few turns to rat it out.
You missed my point. You actually need to draw The Darkness before Raza for him to work, and since he is a legendary it will not happen often.
Legendaries: Val'anyr, Grumble, Dragon Soul, Zola the Gordon.
Epics: Call to Arms, Dragon's Fury, both priest epics, Fal'dorei Strider, Cataclysm (resident sleeper, questlock is viable now and thats scary), Arcane Tyrant.
Commons: Flanking Strike, Shifting Scroll (will replace paveling book in Quest Mage), Gilded Gargoyle, Psionic Probe, all 03 warlock commons, Plated Beetle.
TLDR: Ironic how Warrior and Priest have basically swapped places compared to previous years; Warrior is now a control-only class that is outclassed by priest in every way, while priest can now play anything. Hunter will remain the default F2P class, dont think thats gonna change anytime soon.
Meta will become Cold War between Priest and Rogue, with every other class taking sides to counter one or the other to have a place in the game at all. Sounds fun lul.
1) Raza priest will become tier 2/3 decks as lots of people including myself will be putting The Darkness into all my decks to shut them down. All the potential EZ big decks should make Raza priest miserable as well. If Raza continues to be tier 1, i'll probably quit HS.
2) Any of the Druid decks that ramps hard will become top tier as will there isn't much from stopping them. Will look for the vid where turn 6 druid plays Kun + Medive => Twig + UI and instant conceal.
3) Tempo Rogue and Zoolock decks will become tier 2 as there are way too many AOEs now
İ dont think the darkness will stop the razakus. They have death, kazakus potion and new board clear to deal with it
Are we still into this? The primary purpose of playing The Darkness is to deactivate Raza and Kaza because they will now have duplicates in their deck. The 20/20 is just Plan B is you will...you should not be counting the 20/20 as a win condition.
Wait... I didn't know that the card is giving candles to the opponents deck. Ohhhh get it know
1. Hunter Will come back
2. Mage legendary weapon Aluneth will cause everybody to use weapon removal
3. Warrior may comeback with Malkorok and [cardMolten Blade[/card] .
Damn it Molten Blade !!
Tempo secret mage will be tier 1.
Miracle rogue will be great with strider dude.
Dragonslayer will be a common tech card.
New archetype of demon zoo lock without Keleseth will be at least tier 2.
Prediction and hope. Discardlock will be viable with the new cards.
My prediction is that I will fail in the attempt to make my Jade Druid quicker by including recruit. I already realized that I can't put enough 4 drops into the deck to guarantee value from recruit on average. Therefore I will include Astral Tiger and realize that it just is not good enough to be happy about it getting back in the deck. And then I will give up on my plans for Druid and try recruit with Paladin (feels more realistic btu I didn't put much though in yet).
Other predictions: The Darkness will fail harder in taming Razakus priest than I with building my recruit Jade Druid. Cave Hydra will turn out to be not good enough and Grumble, Worldshaker will not have a viable deck to go into.
Warlock will have a strong Zoo and control deck. But without Rin, the First Disciple . And depending on the presence of Cobalt Scalebane , Dragonslayer will be a decent part of a variety of decks.
I am excited where I missed (hopefully the first one ;)...
Of course no minion hunter will become s tier. Nerf incoming for hunter
1) Darkness won't be good enough to stop razakus priests from totally dominating the ladder.
2) We won't see enough weapons to justify the use of oozes or Harrison, since only mage got a good weapon.
3) Some classes will be forgotten for 5 more months. Poor warrior.
I hope I'll get at least 1 right. ;)
1) Priest won't be the best class, because Rogue takes that spot.
2) A spell-less Hunter deck or one with a few specific minions will turn out to be surprisingly viable (as in: "not meme" tier)
3) Druid will fight Rogue for that top spot in terms of class strength. How often did we see that already: Everyone talks about everything else besides Druid, but at the end Druid turned to be the best or at least 2nd best class. I see the same happening again this time around.
4) Because the last one kinda belonged to 1), here is another one: Zola the Gorgon will only see very niche play.
Cards that will see play IN THIS META:
Legendaries: Val'anyr, Grumble, Dragon Soul, Zola the Gordon.
Epics: Call to Arms, Dragon's Fury, both priest epics, Fal'dorei Strider, Cataclysm (resident sleeper, questlock is viable now and thats scary), Arcane Tyrant.
Rares: Explosive Runes, Diamond Spellstone, Duskbreaker, Elven Minstrel, Primal Talismans, Murmuring Elemental, Amethyst Spellstone, Hooked Reaver.
Commons: Flanking Strike, Shifting Scroll (will replace paveling book in Quest Mage), Gilded Gargoyle, Psionic Probe, all 03 warlock commons, Plated Beetle.
TLDR: Ironic how Warrior and Priest have basically swapped places compared to previous years; Warrior is now a control-only class that is outclassed by priest in every way, while priest can now play anything. Hunter will remain the default F2P class, dont think thats gonna change anytime soon.
Meta will become Cold War between Priest and Rogue, with every other class taking sides to counter one or the other to have a place in the game at all. Sounds fun lul.
RNG Elemental Tempo Mage will be a thing thanks toLeyline Manipulator, Lesser Ruby Spellstone and Arcane Tyrant
In my opinion after this expansion Hemet, Jungle Hunter will see a lot of plays
Am I the only scared of Big Priest? With Psychic Scream, Lesser Diamond Spellstone and Twilight's Call we will have so much trouble to make him ran out of minion.
I hope to be wrong