A genuine question, because I have no idea what the answer is. Why is it that pretty much the only time I see BM is after somebody makes obvious misplays and then topdecks/RNGs lethal? I just had a guy in the arena who had no idea what he was doing, but he managed to topdeck several answers after digging a hole for himself on the board, BMing threaten emotes over and over each time.
It's never the people who play well that BM. It's always, without exception, the ones who play the poorest and then get the luckiest. Does anyone have any insight on the matter? I'm genuinely curious, because it's the sort of thing that if you did it in real life, nobody would play with you anymore, but people online do it all the time. (maybe that's why... :p) But even so, there's still no reason to BM after topdecking lethal when you're losing, even if you didn't realize that you put yourself in such a bad board state.
I think some of it has to do with tilted players who play worse, and get more angry and inclined to BM after the game.
The anonymity of the Internet can do horrible things to people! I still don't think I have never heard anyone say "die of cancer" out loud as an insult, but it is a pretty common online BM phrase...
The reason people do it online, is because for the most part there is no consequence. Someone could BM every single game of HS, and the system would always match them up with someone to play with.
As to why they BM, I imagine there a multiple reasons. One I can think of is they have a miserable life, so they want others to feel bad too (though come on really, roping and emoting in Hearthstone?). Another I can think of is they just enjoy being toxic for whatever reason.
One thing I've noticed which is true for about 90% of games, is that my opponent either doesn't emote at all, or BMs like crazy.
It doesn't matter if an asshole sucks or not at this game, he/she is still an asshole, so he/she will BM each match without any doubt. What I'm trying to say is that there are good and bad players that BM. Just focus on the nice people playing Hearthstone dude (they are many), and ignore the rest.
I know we'll never get it, but this is why I wish we had an ingame chat. I could then point out people's mistakes to them. I just had another guy on the ladder who rage-added me (at rank 5) after killing my turn 4 Kabal Crystal Runner when I had Effigy out, and later dropping The Lich King into my Frozen Clone, amongst other serious errors. After adding, he got mad because I was 'lucky'. Well, I'm sorry, but at rank 5 those plays are just inexcusably bad.
I know we'll never get it, but this is why I wish we had an ingame chat. I could then point out people's mistakes to them. I just had another guy on the ladder who rage-added me (at rank 5) after killing my turn 4 Kabal Crystal Runner when I had Effigy out, and later dropping The Lich King into my Frozen Clone, amongst other serious errors. After adding, he got mad because I was 'lucky'. Well, I'm sorry, but at rank 5 those plays are just inexcusably bad.
Your opponent was an idiot, why do you care about someone like him?
Honestly, a good question :p I suppose, in a sense, I don't, really. I just don't like the behaviour, and maybe if I raise the issue, somebody who does this will stop... probably not, though :p
In real life, though, if you saw somebody who was consistently playing poorly, you would likely (outside of a tournament or something) give them advice. I guess I'm trying to do that, but it's like pissing into the wind in Hearthstone :p
Honestly, a good question :p I suppose, in a sense, I don't, really. I just don't like the behaviour, and maybe if I raise the issue, somebody who does this will stop... probably not, though :p
In real life, though, if you saw somebody who was consistently playing poorly, you would likely (outside of a tournament or something) give them advice. I guess I'm trying to do that, but it's like pissing into the wind in Hearthstone :p
It depends on the person. If there is a guy playing poorly in real life (let's say MTG) but acts as an asshole with his opponents, I doubt anyone would give him some advice. :P
A decent person only BMs Druids and Pirate Warriors. :) (I only really emote with Nemsy..because...Wow! That's awesome! and the puppet line is perfect for your typical netdeck scrub)
The reason people do it online, is because for the most part there is no consequence. Someone could BM every single game of HS, and the system would always match them up with someone to play with.
As to why they BM, I imagine there a multiple reasons. One I can think of is they have a miserable life, so they want others to feel bad too (though come on really, roping and emoting in Hearthstone?). Another I can think of is they just enjoy being toxic for whatever reason.
One thing I've noticed which is true for about 90% of games, is that my opponent either doesn't emote at all, or BMs like crazy.
The lack of consequences are key but there is something else too it:
I don't think BM necessarily has to do with lives being miserable, but gaming can an outlet for destructive emotions. You see the very same thing going on in amateur sports, with swearing, burst of anger and curses at opponents and themselves, some times even violence. It is a part of who we are, and to unleash some demons at anonymous opponents in the gaming world is not the worst place to do so!
While slightly unrelated, I always see people making themselves feel better after they got bmed by telling themselves the asshole is a sad, pitiful person or that it is the only thing they got going for them. This is just self consolation as well as self delusion. The asshole is probably just bored or bming makes him feel good as he topdecks a win or both. He ain't pitiful and he sure as hell ain't some degenerate that you can compare yourself to and tell yourself that you are superior. I have someone in my friendlist who used to play hs and he was pretty decent at it. Only issue was he bmed all the way in every game no matter the board state. And he won majority of his matches because the opponent became unnerved. I didn't like how he did it, but he wasn't a bad player. So skill level has nothing to do with it. And easily getting unnerved by someone's emotes is the only reason why people nonsensically lie to themselves about how their opponent is a loser in real life or that squelch somehow pisses off the bmer. Just to make themselves feel better. Kinda like how most bmers bm to make themselves feel good in the first place. Some kind of ego masturbation.
A decent person only BMs Druids and Pirate Warriors. :) (I only really emote with Nemsy..because...Wow! That's awesome! and the puppet line is perfect for your typical netdeck scrub)
While slightly unrelated, I always see people making themselves feel better after they got bmed by telling themselves the asshole is a sad, pitiful person or that it is the only thing they got going for them. This is just self consolation as well as self delusion. The asshole is probably just bored or bming makes him feel good as he topdecks a win or both. He ain't pitiful and he sure as hell ain't some degenerate that you can compare yourself to and tell yourself that you are superior. I have someone in my friendlist who used to play hs and he was pretty decent at it. Only issue was he bmed all the way in every game no matter the board state. And he won majority of his matches because the opponent became unnerved. I didn't like how he did it, but he wasn't a bad player. So skill level has nothing to do with it. And easily getting unnerved by someone's emotes is the only reason why people nonsensically lie to themselves about how their opponent is a loser in real life or that squelch somehow pisses off the bmer. Just to make themselves feel better. Kinda like how most bmers bm to make themselves feel good in the first place. Some kind of ego masturbation.
It boggles my mind the percentage of people I play that seem to only derive pleasure from making someone else unhappy, and it also boggles my mind that people can justify this behavior by simply attributing it to someone doing what's fun for them. People that are toxic socially, from bullies to pedophiles, always seem to harbor the narcissistic belief that they are the ones that are the victims, as if someone is stepping on their rights by taking offense at the shitty way they treat humanity. If anything, people are far too accepting of people treating other people badly online, as if being a shitty human being is not self-evident and is justified by the fact that being as asshole has become a meme. This community is a group of people who have similar interests, and, if your relationship with that community is one where, for whatever reason, you feel the need to make what should be your friends as unhappy as possible with the limited parameters of the game, then you're not the victim, you're the asshole. The more that people online ignore, support, and practice this toxic approach to interacting with other people, it will carry over more and more into regular society, and things will get worse. If someone is the victim of this type of behavior and, instead of just getting angry, they try to understand why someone would treat people who should be friends this way, they're not condescending, they're compassionate, and probably better than I am. Who ever looked at a bully or sadistic individual in real life and said 'hey, they're just doing what they enjoy'. It's ridiculous to think that interacting with others online has less impact than in real life and that someone shouldn't be expected to display the same degree of humanity we expect from them when they exit their front door.
While slightly unrelated, I always see people making themselves feel better after they got bmed by telling themselves the asshole is a sad, pitiful person or that it is the only thing they got going for them. This is just self consolation as well as self delusion. The asshole is probably just bored or bming makes him feel good as he topdecks a win or both. He ain't pitiful and he sure as hell ain't some degenerate that you can compare yourself to and tell yourself that you are superior. I have someone in my friendlist who used to play hs and he was pretty decent at it. Only issue was he bmed all the way in every game no matter the board state. And he won majority of his matches because the opponent became unnerved. I didn't like how he did it, but he wasn't a bad player. So skill level has nothing to do with it. And easily getting unnerved by someone's emotes is the only reason why people nonsensically lie to themselves about how their opponent is a loser in real life or that squelch somehow pisses off the bmer. Just to make themselves feel better. Kinda like how most bmers bm to make themselves feel good in the first place. Some kind of ego masturbation.
Why would you need to make yourself feel better because of a BMer? If you go deep down into this, when you look at it, you will notice people who have a need to BM, specially those in need of excessive constant expression and emoting, that usually comes from even the smallest perturbation in their personality, even small scale disorders. So I don't know why one needs to feel better about themselves, what happens to me is that I feel sorry for my opponent. It has no effect on me nor does it change me. But it does make me feel bad for my opponent that he has to deal or live with the problem he has. It is actually rare that you find players doing excessive amounts of BMing without actually having anything that is disturbing them.
By how you described that person in your friends list, it is likely he also suffered some problem.
And it doesn't have anything to do with the opponent being a loser in real life, that is a fabrication that people like to construct to label others while also trying not to get labelled themselves.
All of this aside, sometimes it can be mildly annoying when the opponent enjoys BMing and is oblivious to the events that lead to the game conclusion, many times the mistakes they made, but some people don't want to be told they are wrong, not everyone strives to constantly improve themselves.
Dont ask me why one needs to make themselves feel better because of a BMer. I dont do it. Ask some of the people above who do it. Why do they need to delude themselves with nonsensical lies that debases the asshole that threatens their ego? Probably to regain some security and defuse unpleasant emotions, I'd bet. I wouldn't know, ask someone above who does.
As for your interpretation of BMing being a result of personality perturbations and even disorders, this is exactly the kind of delusional lie that I was talking about. There's no need to 'look deep down into this' because it never was such a serious matter. BMing doesn't always have to do with disturbances in their mental state or problems in real life. Hell, it rarely does. The asshole is bored so he BMs on a whim. The feel of victory is awesome so he BMs. He is salty and so he vents and BM. That's it. It's on a whim. It doesn't have to do with disorders or problems or whatnot. That is blowing matters out of proportion to feel better. There is no need to feel sorry for the BMer. He probably has no issues. He doesnt have to live life problems or mental disorders. He isn't in a sorry state that you can look down on him from above and feel better then tell yourself 'he is pitiful'. He's probably an average dude acting on the mean streak that everyone has. It's just easier to be nasty with online anonymity. That's it. Delusions. Self consolation. Exaggeration. Fixing some wounded pride by mentally lowering the dude who you let wound you.
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A genuine question, because I have no idea what the answer is. Why is it that pretty much the only time I see BM is after somebody makes obvious misplays and then topdecks/RNGs lethal? I just had a guy in the arena who had no idea what he was doing, but he managed to topdeck several answers after digging a hole for himself on the board, BMing threaten emotes over and over each time.
It's never the people who play well that BM. It's always, without exception, the ones who play the poorest and then get the luckiest. Does anyone have any insight on the matter? I'm genuinely curious, because it's the sort of thing that if you did it in real life, nobody would play with you anymore, but people online do it all the time. (maybe that's why... :p) But even so, there's still no reason to BM after topdecking lethal when you're losing, even if you didn't realize that you put yourself in such a bad board state.
BM can happen regardless of skill level, thats why squelch is your friend. It likely pisses them off to no end as well.
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I think some of it has to do with tilted players who play worse, and get more angry and inclined to BM after the game.
The anonymity of the Internet can do horrible things to people! I still don't think I have never heard anyone say "die of cancer" out loud as an insult, but it is a pretty common online BM phrase...
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The reason people do it online, is because for the most part there is no consequence. Someone could BM every single game of HS, and the system would always match them up with someone to play with.
As to why they BM, I imagine there a multiple reasons. One I can think of is they have a miserable life, so they want others to feel bad too (though come on really, roping and emoting in Hearthstone?). Another I can think of is they just enjoy being toxic for whatever reason.
One thing I've noticed which is true for about 90% of games, is that my opponent either doesn't emote at all, or BMs like crazy.
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People that play well also BM...
Im still waiting for the eat shit BM to come out.
BM is only what you consider to be BM.
It doesn't matter if an asshole sucks or not at this game, he/she is still an asshole, so he/she will BM each match without any doubt. What I'm trying to say is that there are good and bad players that BM. Just focus on the nice people playing Hearthstone dude (they are many), and ignore the rest.
I know we'll never get it, but this is why I wish we had an ingame chat. I could then point out people's mistakes to them. I just had another guy on the ladder who rage-added me (at rank 5) after killing my turn 4 Kabal Crystal Runner when I had Effigy out, and later dropping The Lich King into my Frozen Clone, amongst other serious errors. After adding, he got mad because I was 'lucky'. Well, I'm sorry, but at rank 5 those plays are just inexcusably bad.
Honestly, a good question :p I suppose, in a sense, I don't, really. I just don't like the behaviour, and maybe if I raise the issue, somebody who does this will stop... probably not, though :p
In real life, though, if you saw somebody who was consistently playing poorly, you would likely (outside of a tournament or something) give them advice. I guess I'm trying to do that, but it's like pissing into the wind in Hearthstone :p
A decent person only BMs Druids and Pirate Warriors. :) (I only really emote with Nemsy..because...Wow! That's awesome! and the puppet line is perfect for your typical netdeck scrub)
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While slightly unrelated, I always see people making themselves feel better after they got bmed by telling themselves the asshole is a sad, pitiful person or that it is the only thing they got going for them. This is just self consolation as well as self delusion. The asshole is probably just bored or bming makes him feel good as he topdecks a win or both. He ain't pitiful and he sure as hell ain't some degenerate that you can compare yourself to and tell yourself that you are superior. I have someone in my friendlist who used to play hs and he was pretty decent at it. Only issue was he bmed all the way in every game no matter the board state. And he won majority of his matches because the opponent became unnerved. I didn't like how he did it, but he wasn't a bad player. So skill level has nothing to do with it. And easily getting unnerved by someone's emotes is the only reason why people nonsensically lie to themselves about how their opponent is a loser in real life or that squelch somehow pisses off the bmer. Just to make themselves feel better. Kinda like how most bmers bm to make themselves feel good in the first place. Some kind of ego masturbation.
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Man.... I'm never going to emote the same again, I didn't realize the impact it had on other people's lives
It boggles my mind the percentage of people I play that seem to only derive pleasure from making someone else unhappy, and it also boggles my mind that people can justify this behavior by simply attributing it to someone doing what's fun for them. People that are toxic socially, from bullies to pedophiles, always seem to harbor the narcissistic belief that they are the ones that are the victims, as if someone is stepping on their rights by taking offense at the shitty way they treat humanity. If anything, people are far too accepting of people treating other people badly online, as if being a shitty human being is not self-evident and is justified by the fact that being as asshole has become a meme. This community is a group of people who have similar interests, and, if your relationship with that community is one where, for whatever reason, you feel the need to make what should be your friends as unhappy as possible with the limited parameters of the game, then you're not the victim, you're the asshole. The more that people online ignore, support, and practice this toxic approach to interacting with other people, it will carry over more and more into regular society, and things will get worse. If someone is the victim of this type of behavior and, instead of just getting angry, they try to understand why someone would treat people who should be friends this way, they're not condescending, they're compassionate, and probably better than I am. Who ever looked at a bully or sadistic individual in real life and said 'hey, they're just doing what they enjoy'. It's ridiculous to think that interacting with others online has less impact than in real life and that someone shouldn't be expected to display the same degree of humanity we expect from them when they exit their front door.