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For example my prince rogue is running 2x sprint etc while no one else is doing that.

 Not to get terribly off topic but why would you run Spring in a Prince Rogue deck, even putting two of them in?  I cannot think of a single card 7-mana and up that is worse than running Sprint.  

 The point would be to get multiple low cost cards to reload late game not to draw a large card. If you aren't dead, or killed your tempo before turn 7, it is a solid enough plan. Think of it like drawing into Dude Paladin's Darkshire+Stand Against the Darkness combo to play on turn 8, but instead with buffed 1 and 3 drops with a little more gas left in hand. 

 I mean, what are you NOT running from the more traditional lists to include 2x Sprint?   I would just rather run 2x Bonemare. 

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For example my prince rogue is running 2x sprint etc while no one else is doing that.

 Not to get terribly off topic but why would you run Spring in a Prince Rogue deck, even putting two of them in?  I cannot think of a single card 7-mana and up that is worse than running Sprint.  

 The point would be to get multiple low cost cards to reload late game not to draw a large card. If you aren't dead, or killed your tempo before turn 7, it is a solid enough plan. Think of it like drawing into Dude Paladin's Darkshire+Stand Against the Darkness combo to play on turn 8, but instead with buffed 1 and 3 drops with a little more gas left in hand. 

 I mean, what are you NOT running from the more traditional lists to include 2x Sprint?   I would just rather run 2x Bonemare. 

 I didn't say it was a great idea, but I understand the logic behind it and wanting true card draw in the deck. If you wanted though you could remove Xaril and Shaku from the older lists or Nesting Roc and Deadly Poison from the new, weirder list. 

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For example my prince rogue is running 2x sprint etc while no one else is doing that.

 Not to get terribly off topic but why would you run Spring in a Prince Rogue deck, even putting two of them in?  I cannot think of a single card 7-mana and up that is worse than running Sprint.  

 The point would be to get multiple low cost cards to reload late game not to draw a large card. If you aren't dead, or killed your tempo before turn 7, it is a solid enough plan. Think of it like drawing into Dude Paladin's Darkshire+Stand Against the Darkness combo to play on turn 8, but instead with buffed 1 and 3 drops with a little more gas left in hand. 

 I mean, what are you NOT running from the more traditional lists to include 2x Sprint?   I would just rather run 2x Bonemare. 

 I didn't say it was a great idea, but I understand the logic behind it and wanting true card draw in the deck. If you wanted though you could remove Xaril and Shaku from the older lists or Nesting Roc and Deadly Poison from the new, weirder list. 

 I wonder if you could get away with running Cult Masters, as generally Tempo Rogue doesn't have 4-drops (aside from Xaril in some lists) and you're usually 2-drop + Hero Power or Coin + 5-drop. 

When I hear about frustrations about netdecking, usually from streamers I watch, it's not because they've run into Razakus that they're frustrated, it's because they've run into Razakus for the 22nd time today.

So individually, there's nothing wrong with netdecking, you might do it because you enjoy winning a little more, because you don't have enough of a collection for any other viable deck, or you may just enjoy that deck in general. Whatever your reason for netdecking, no one is blaming an individual for playing that certain deck.

However, where the frustration is coming from, and validly if I may say so, is when an overwhelming portion of the population is netdecking. All the arguments against netdecking come together when multiple people are building these decks, that force us into a "meta", which in turn limits our choices as players if we want to actually play a deck that has some chance at winning. That's why some people are against it because it limits creativity in a sense because now we have to overcome this level of efficiency in the overall quality of decks, that let's face it, is hard to do with some of the more fun deck ideas.

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I mean, I am always quite flattered when I see people playing my deck ideas like Razakus Priest or Keleseth Rogue. XD
Gives me a warm fuzzy feeling to know that I am shaping the meta...

But seriously, I have often wondered why people get so tight in the pants over the idea of learning from those better than them. (Don't get me wrong, I have been frustrated to see the same decks used repeatedly, but I put that down to some people not having that particular skill - how to build a killer deck idea)
I mean, if you want to get better at something, you have to learn from people who are better than you, right?

In a similar vein, it's one thing to copy a deck you saw a Youtuber play, but another thing entirely to know how to play that deck (which is a separate skill entirely). I lost count of the number of times I see someone running a Pirate Warrior attempting to out-tempo me with board control, or a Dragon Priest playing synergy cards with no dragons in hand. Misplays are commonplace until you build the knowledge of how a deck is supposed to work.

Perhaps much of the frustration comes from the usual salt of knowing that the particular deck you are running is not teched to beat the one you hate seeing?

Without master deck-builders, those who don't know how to build a good strong deck will never get a real chance to let their play-skill shine as they need a deck that lives up to their expectations. And that's where us deckbuilders come into play, really. We do the experiments and the synergy investigations - and we love to test silly meme decks to find that one wild, unstoppable combo or mad synergy play.

But without others taking those decks and making them work and rise to fame, our efforts our wasted. 
So in short, a brief thank you to the netdeckers for stress-testing our decks for us and taking them up to tier 1, making us proud!

Now, go invent your own blasted deck ideas, yer scum-sucking netdecking waste of spaces...! *ahem!*

 

Nothing.  But there's something wrong with a game whose play modes and incentives beg for it to happen regularly.

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 Your e-peen is cashing some large checks there buddy. Which is my way of saying that your post is pretentious shit.

Seriously, this was just "I'm brilliant!" spelled out in way too many words for its own good.

People play whatever they want, and afaik nobody is "making your decks rise to fame".

 The sheer triggering here is delicious! XD

It's evil and wrong and you should feel bad.

Nah, not really, but it leads to creative staleness when everyone's just following along with what the pros are doin'. Not to mention meta-staleness; winning will always take precedence, but no one likes to encounter the same 2-3 decks all day every day. I mean yeah, my Wild Dragon decks are not Tier 1, but at least I put my own touch on them and put forth the effort to make them better. I can rightfully say they are mine, and there's something inherently nice about that.

At the same time, it can be rather frustrating to run into copy-pasta decks that steamroll you time-and-again. Did the opposing player really beat you...or did they just ride their netdeck to victory? *shrugs* Either-way, it's not a "problem" that's going away anytime soon, so people are going to have to come to terms with it somehow. Welcome to the Information Age.

There is nothing wrong with netdecking. The only problem is when someone netdecks, does not read about the deck leading to them not understanding how to play it, and then they get to a high rank because of their powerful deck/rng. Of course, in a card game with a limited amount of good cards, all good decks for a class will have some similar card choices. There are a few slots that can be changed around due to personal preference but, generally, the core of the deck will remain the same. Elemental Mage will always include Frost Lich Jaina, Fireball, Frostbolt, etc.,Highlander Priest will always have Raza the Chained, Kazakus, Power Word: Shield, etc. 

Admittedly ... I didn't read all 4 pages of the thread ...I am sure I will get around to it eventually. 

But, "netdecking" and "netdecker" have just become the knee-jerk Hearthstone insult. It's something else to whine about, or to use to kill a constructive conversation, to try to make someone feel worse, or make themselves feel superior. 

I am sure that to most, I am a "netdecker" ... but I don't have a single deck that I haven't adjusted at least a couple cards. But nearly all of them started life being copied from somewhere. So am I "creative" ... no. But am I "netdecking" ... no. 

Netdecking decreases ladder variety; of that, there is no question.  It also demonstrates a fundamental lack of skill if you have to copy and paste a deck from somebody else, especially when many netdecks actually have flaws in them, yet get copied blindly by newbies anyway.  Do decks individuals build sometimes, even often, look like netdecks?  They're going to come close, sure.  But as someone who always makes my own decks and has gotten to legend, I can tell you that I've NEVER seen anyone using my exact lists on the ladder, not even once.  I've seen some that are close, sure, but even that is rare.

If you really have no clue where to start building a deck, looking up netdecks isn't a terrible idea; nobody expects somebody to download the game and be a legend quality player on day 1, at least not without a lot of other CCG experience.  But if you've been playing for more than a few weeks and you're still blindly following the latest streamer's deck, then you're the reason the meta is stale.

Netdecking is fine since it helps people know what cards to play but when you face many people playing nearly the exact same deck with like 1-4 minor card changes then its a problem

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I mean, I am always quite flattered when I see people playing my deck ideas like Razakus Priest or Keleseth Rogue. XD
Gives me a warm fuzzy feeling to know that I am shaping the meta...

As a social player, I enjoy seeing a variety of decks. I get really bored playing against jade druids.

It would be nice if Blizzard would bring in a boycott button for certain classes like they do for random BGs in WoW.