Is anyone else going through an absurd drawing luck, it doesn't matter what deck I play but my draw is always ridiculous, I always get terrible cards and end up loosing cause I never get the good cards when I need them, played Highlander priest and in the last 3 days either Anduinn or Raza (If not both) are always in the 6-5 bottom cards, tried to play some evolve shaman to switch things up and in the 5 games I played ever got a dopplegangsters or aya or even early drops, my hand most of the games was shit like Thrall, Flametongue, Bloodlust, maelstrom, evolve or shit like that, then tried some tempo rogue... 2 games, first game kept my fire fly, mulligan the rest and got 2 bonemares and a Leeroy, then got 2 shadowsteps and a cobalt scalebane, seriously wtf, second game was ok, got keleseth on like turn 4 and ended up winning cause my draw was ok. And no, it's not a mulligan problem, those decks are fairly simple, shaman just keep 1 drops, flame tongue if you got 1 drop, keep claws, and if you have good early turns keep things keep things like mana tide, with priest if against control just keep Raza anduinn if you get them if not pretty much mulligan everything, against aggro try to get as much board clears as possible and if you have those is ok to keep raza, my point here is that even if I kept my whole hand or dumped it all my good cards always seem to be so fucking deep, every single one of my games with raza priest went to me fatiguing in this last 3 days cause my combo is always in the last 5 cardsand 70-80% of the time I just because I manage to stall the whole game and end up bursting my opponent with Velen+mind blast and whatever other cheap card I have left. This is snot me being salty but I'm just worried and even amazed by my luck, just to showcase it a little more, one of the games I lost was in a mirror match in which my opponent got the combo on curve and then proceeded to thoughtsteal my lyra, played a couple spells got a Devour mind from lyra and with that stole Velen AND mind blast and another card he never played when I had like 11-12 cards left, I managed to get back to almost full with a greater healing potion I got from a past lyra turn (Probably the only "lucky" moment in the whole 3 days) and went from death on his Velen only to see how my opponent top decks his own velen and did like extra 18 damage again and I couldnt even deal with second velen... That's my luck.
Sometimes I get the perfect curve mulligan. Sometimes I get 2 8-manas and a 10-mana (and I consider the noose...).
Like everything good and bad. We notice the bad much more than the good. You probably don't recall the number of times in between those bad draws where you drew the best cards - because that's human nature really.
I once played with my C'thun Druid and the only cards that I drew were below four mana cost. All of them. Coincidence? Yup. It's RNG fiesta, not a conspiracy from Blizzard.
Helpful comment there. Allow me to correct you: those words are spelt "Get" and "Good". There is also a comma before the word "kid".
At least you included a full stop at the end, so I guess there is still some hope for your education. On that note, how are things at school these days? Are you looking forward to moving up to Secondary School in a few years? Must be exciting!
Helpful comment there. Allow me to correct you: those words are spelt "Get" and "Good". There is also a comma before the word "kid".
At least you included a full stop at the end, so I guess there is still some hope for your education. On that note, how are things at school these days? Are you looking forward to moving up to Secondary School in a few years? Must be exciting!
Mi mum talk mi nut tu telk wit strangeers. Pls lif mi alon. End git gut kid.
Helpful comment there. Allow me to correct you: those words are spelt "Get" and "Good". There is also a comma before the word "kid".
At least you included a full stop at the end, so I guess there is still some hope for your education. On that note, how are things at school these days? Are you looking forward to moving up to Secondary School in a few years? Must be exciting!
Mi mum talk mi nut tu telk wit strangeers. Pls lif mi alon. End git gut kid.
Jokes aside he is complaining about draw... It's one of the fundamental concepts of the Hearthstone, it can't and it wont be changed. What else am i supposed to do other than troll him? The entire topic is pointless. He is either hoping that they will change the game just because of him or he is one of the paranoid retards who believe that Blizzard is working against them. And both are just unacceptable beliefs for a sane human being.
What else am i supposed to do other than troll him?
Hmmm. Well, you could "not" troll him and be helpful instead? (I know, crazy ideaz be cray-cray, right?) :-P When you troll someone, you help no-one. It only makes others annoyed and less likely to ask you for help with anything actually important later on. ^_^
Now, you're not incorrect that luck of the draw is a fundamental concept of the game - that's granted. But see beyond the complaint here and understand the real problem. This chap is looking for (essentially) a sanity check, that there is not some underlying mechanic working against him, conspiring to make him fail. Short answer (to the OP) : there isn't. It's dumb luck and it happens. You'll find better days :-)
Don't get me wrong though - my own initial reply to you was just as troll-y as well (for which I apologise, but you know: fish and barrels, etc! Heh!). Perhaps we should all try and offer a sympathetic ear when people are feeling a little salty. God knows this game can make even the lubberest of landlubbers at least a wee bit sea-salt-induced...!
Maybe i've overstepped boundries but i just can't take conspiracy theories seriously. There are far too many people who believe in them, heck there is couple of topics on this forum in which people complain about how matchmaking is rigged. Yeah it's rigged, Ben Brode is sitting there just waiting to counter you. People feel insignificant and they come up with these crazy theories in which everyone is working against them. Sometimes they need a slap to bring them back to reallity.
I'm sorry OP but you are just looking for an excuse. Let me give you an advice OP when you start feeling salty about your draws, don't play ranked. There is much higher chance of you making a mistake (Which you will again label as a stupid RNG) and that mistake can do nothing else but increase your salt levels.
Psychologists call this “external locus of control.” It’s a kind of fatalism, where people believe that they can do little or nothing personally to change their lives. Because of this, they either merely hope for the best, focus on trying to change their luck by various kinds of superstition, or submit passively to whatever comes—while complaining that it doesn’t match their hopes.Most successful people take the opposite view. They have “internal locus of control.” They believe that what happens in their life is nearly all down to them; and that even when chance events occur, what is important is not the event itself, but how you respond to it.This makes them pro-active, engaged, ready to try new things, and keen to find the means to change whatever in their lives they don’t like. They aren’t fatalistic and they don’t blame bad luck for what isn’t right in their world. They look for a way to make things better.Are they luckier than the others? Of course not. Luck is random—that’s what chance means—so they are just as likely to suffer setbacks as anyone else. What’s different is their response. When things go wrong, they quickly look for ways to put them right. They don’t whine, pity themselves, or complain about “bad luck.” They try to learn from what happened to avoid or correct it next time and get on with living their life as best they can.
No one is habitually luckier or unluckier than anyone else. It may seem so, over the short term (Random events often come in groups, just as random numbers often lie close together for several instances—which is why gamblers tend to see patterns where none exist). When you take a longer perspective, random chance is just . . . random. Yet those who feel that they are less lucky, typically pay far more attention to short-term instances of bad luck, convincing themselves of the correctness of their belief.
bad drawing luck often has to do with planing your following turns poorly and wasting resources. Simply curving out doesn't win you games (At least not all of them).
Throwing in a mana tide totem without protection. Playing a Firefly where you could simply used the heropower. Playing your removal (Devolve and Maelstrom) for minimum effect. These are all ways to reduce your hand size without noticing. And suddenly you are out of stuff and don't know why. Then you rely on topdecks and notice every "bad" draw. It might be a godlike draw in 3 turns. But you ran out of stuff and therefor it's a bad draw.
Razakus is special cause it relies on exactly 2 cards to win... I stopped playing priest cause i hate the mirror matches where it is all about drawing your stuff first...
I'm amazed that there isn't a post like this every day. With millions of Hearthstone players globally, someone, somewhere, is experiencing a seemingly impossible sequence of unlucky draws at any given time.
Another factor in this is deck building; if the deck isn't well refined then you are going to find yourself in bad positions relying on draw much more often.
However, it seems like you're netdecking so in theory that should not be the problem. I think the points about playing efficiently and not wasting stuff are really important. How you use the cards you have got is really crucial. Say for example, playing everything into AoE without thinking instead of deciding how many cards/minions you can afford to lose, what your opponent is going to see as 'value' for their AoE and whether you need to go all in to have a chance to win.
Maybe i've overstepped boundries but i just can't take conspiracy theories seriously. There are far too many people who believe in them, heck there is couple of topics on this forum in which people complain about how matchmaking is rigged. Yeah it's rigged, Ben Brode is sitting there just waiting to counter you. People feel insignificant and they come up with these crazy theories in which everyone is working against them. Sometimes they need a slap to bring them back to reallity.
I'm sorry OP but you are just looking for an excuse. Let me give you an advice OP when you start feeling salty about your draws, don't play ranked. There is much higher chance of you making a mistake (Which you will again label as a stupid RNG) and that mistake can do nothing else but increase your salt levels.
I never claimed that Blizzard has somehow rigged the RNG against me, or any other person having bad luck for that matter, I just wanted to share my personal experience and gave a little showcase of my shit luck this last 3 days and the fact that one or both parts of my combo somehow managed to be on the bottom 7-5 cards on almost every game and if you have played any highlander priest you would realize how hard it is to win without getting those 2 cards because basically you have no win condition and after that I wanted to know if someone has gone, or is going through a terrible luck day/ couple days and to be more specific terrible drawing luck, but that doesn't mean that I was implying that said bad luck is due to a Blizzard conspiracy or something dumb like that... I swear people trying to troll nowdays is so lame lol I was just sharing my personal experience and that makes me a conspiracy believer some how... The only thing that could have made your "trolling" worse is adding a Kappa at the end.
Maybe i've overstepped boundries but i just can't take conspiracy theories seriously. There are far too many people who believe in them, heck there is couple of topics on this forum in which people complain about how matchmaking is rigged. Yeah it's rigged, Ben Brode is sitting there just waiting to counter you. People feel insignificant and they come up with these crazy theories in which everyone is working against them. Sometimes they need a slap to bring them back to reallity.
I'm sorry OP but you are just looking for an excuse. Let me give you an advice OP when you start feeling salty about your draws, don't play ranked. There is much higher chance of you making a mistake (Which you will again label as a stupid RNG) and that mistake can do nothing else but increase your salt levels.
I never claimed that Blizzard has somehow rigged the RNG against me, or any other person having bad luck for that matter, I just wanted to share my personal experience and gave a little showcase of my shit luck this last 3 days and the fact that one or both parts of my combo somehow managed to be on the bottom 7-5 cards on almost every game and if you have played any highlander priest you would realize how hard it is to win without getting those 2 cards because basically you have no win condition and after that I wanted to know if someone has gone, or is going through a terrible luck day/ couple days and to be more specific terrible drawing luck, but that doesn't mean that I was implying that said bad luck is due to a Blizzard conspiracy or something dumb like that... I swear people trying to troll nowdays is so lame lol I was just sharing my personal experience and that makes me a conspiracy believer some how... The only thing that could have made your "trolling" worse is adding a Kappa at the end.
I would never i repeat never say that word. Are you trying to troll me back by implying that i would say that word? I hate reddit and twitch and all so called "memes" that come from those websites. This is by far the most insulting thing anyone has ever said to me on this forum. I'm not even joking.
And i'm sorry about conspiracy theory but have you seen all the posts latley about blizzard rigging the game. I thought you jumped onto the bandwagon as well. Anyways you have Group Therapy thread where you can reduce salt levels. No point in opening salt thread v2.0
Rollback Post to RevisionRollBack
Bitch i'm Willy Wonka!
To post a comment, please login or register a new account.
Is anyone else going through an absurd drawing luck, it doesn't matter what deck I play but my draw is always ridiculous, I always get terrible cards and end up loosing cause I never get the good cards when I need them, played Highlander priest and in the last 3 days either Anduinn or Raza (If not both) are always in the 6-5 bottom cards, tried to play some evolve shaman to switch things up and in the 5 games I played ever got a dopplegangsters or aya or even early drops, my hand most of the games was shit like Thrall, Flametongue, Bloodlust, maelstrom, evolve or shit like that, then tried some tempo rogue... 2 games, first game kept my fire fly, mulligan the rest and got 2 bonemares and a Leeroy, then got 2 shadowsteps and a cobalt scalebane, seriously wtf, second game was ok, got keleseth on like turn 4 and ended up winning cause my draw was ok. And no, it's not a mulligan problem, those decks are fairly simple, shaman just keep 1 drops, flame tongue if you got 1 drop, keep claws, and if you have good early turns keep things keep things like mana tide, with priest if against control just keep Raza anduinn if you get them if not pretty much mulligan everything, against aggro try to get as much board clears as possible and if you have those is ok to keep raza, my point here is that even if I kept my whole hand or dumped it all my good cards always seem to be so fucking deep, every single one of my games with raza priest went to me fatiguing in this last 3 days cause my combo is always in the last 5 cardsand 70-80% of the time I just because I manage to stall the whole game and end up bursting my opponent with Velen+mind blast and whatever other cheap card I have left. This is snot me being salty but I'm just worried and even amazed by my luck, just to showcase it a little more, one of the games I lost was in a mirror match in which my opponent got the combo on curve and then proceeded to thoughtsteal my lyra, played a couple spells got a Devour mind from lyra and with that stole Velen AND mind blast and another card he never played when I had like 11-12 cards left, I managed to get back to almost full with a greater healing potion I got from a past lyra turn (Probably the only "lucky" moment in the whole 3 days) and went from death on his Velen only to see how my opponent top decks his own velen and did like extra 18 damage again and I couldnt even deal with second velen... That's my luck.
Luck is luck.
Clue's in the name, really.
Sometimes I get the perfect curve mulligan. Sometimes I get 2 8-manas and a 10-mana (and I consider the noose...).
Like everything good and bad. We notice the bad much more than the good. You probably don't recall the number of times in between those bad draws where you drew the best cards - because that's human nature really.
I once played with my C'thun Druid and the only cards that I drew were below four mana cost. All of them. Coincidence? Yup. It's RNG fiesta, not a conspiracy from Blizzard.
Git gud kid.
Bitch i'm Willy Wonka!
Allow me to correct you: those words are spelt "Get" and "Good".
There is also a comma before the word "kid".
On that note, how are things at school these days? Are you looking forward to moving up to Secondary School in a few years?
Must be exciting!
Bitch i'm Willy Wonka!
Luck is luck :) Sometimes you get lucky, sometimes you find bad luck all over the plate :)
Jokes aside he is complaining about draw... It's one of the fundamental concepts of the Hearthstone, it can't and it wont be changed. What else am i supposed to do other than troll him?
The entire topic is pointless. He is either hoping that they will change the game just because of him or he is one of the paranoid retards who believe that Blizzard is working against them. And both are just unacceptable beliefs for a sane human being.
And if he is just simply a salt ball, there is a thread for that: http://www.hearthpwn.com/forums/hearthstone-general/general-discussion/28947-group-therapy-need-to-blow-off-steam-mega-salty?page=2051#c43101
Bitch i'm Willy Wonka!
Hmmm. Well, you could "not" troll him and be helpful instead?
(I know, crazy ideaz be cray-cray, right?) :-P
When you troll someone, you help no-one. It only makes others annoyed and less likely to ask you for help with anything actually important later on. ^_^
Now, you're not incorrect that luck of the draw is a fundamental concept of the game - that's granted.
But see beyond the complaint here and understand the real problem. This chap is looking for (essentially) a sanity check, that there is not some underlying mechanic working against him, conspiring to make him fail.
Short answer (to the OP) : there isn't. It's dumb luck and it happens. You'll find better days :-)
Don't get me wrong though - my own initial reply to you was just as troll-y as well (for which I apologise, but you know: fish and barrels, etc! Heh!). Perhaps we should all try and offer a sympathetic ear when people are feeling a little salty.
God knows this game can make even the lubberest of landlubbers at least a wee bit sea-salt-induced...!
Maybe i've overstepped boundries but i just can't take conspiracy theories seriously. There are far too many people who believe in them, heck there is couple of topics on this forum in which people complain about how matchmaking is rigged. Yeah it's rigged, Ben Brode is sitting there just waiting to counter you. People feel insignificant and they come up with these crazy theories in which everyone is working against them. Sometimes they need a slap to bring them back to reallity.
I'm sorry OP but you are just looking for an excuse. Let me give you an advice OP when you start feeling salty about your draws, don't play ranked. There is much higher chance of you making a mistake (Which you will again label as a stupid RNG) and that mistake can do nothing else but increase your salt levels.
Bitch i'm Willy Wonka!
Psychologists call this “external locus of control.” It’s a kind of fatalism, where people believe that they can do little or nothing personally to change their lives. Because of this, they either merely hope for the best, focus on trying to change their luck by various kinds of superstition, or submit passively to whatever comes—while complaining that it doesn’t match their hopes.Most successful people take the opposite view. They have “internal locus of control.” They believe that what happens in their life is nearly all down to them; and that even when chance events occur, what is important is not the event itself, but how you respond to it.This makes them pro-active, engaged, ready to try new things, and keen to find the means to change whatever in their lives they don’t like. They aren’t fatalistic and they don’t blame bad luck for what isn’t right in their world. They look for a way to make things better.Are they luckier than the others? Of course not. Luck is random—that’s what chance means—so they are just as likely to suffer setbacks as anyone else. What’s different is their response. When things go wrong, they quickly look for ways to put them right. They don’t whine, pity themselves, or complain about “bad luck.” They try to learn from what happened to avoid or correct it next time and get on with living their life as best they can.
No one is habitually luckier or unluckier than anyone else. It may seem so, over the short term (Random events often come in groups, just as random numbers often lie close together for several instances—which is why gamblers tend to see patterns where none exist). When you take a longer perspective, random chance is just . . . random. Yet those who feel that they are less lucky, typically pay far more attention to short-term instances of bad luck, convincing themselves of the correctness of their belief.
bad drawing luck often has to do with planing your following turns poorly and wasting resources. Simply curving out doesn't win you games (At least not all of them).
Throwing in a mana tide totem without protection. Playing a Firefly where you could simply used the heropower. Playing your removal (Devolve and Maelstrom) for minimum effect. These are all ways to reduce your hand size without noticing. And suddenly you are out of stuff and don't know why. Then you rely on topdecks and notice every "bad" draw. It might be a godlike draw in 3 turns. But you ran out of stuff and therefor it's a bad draw.
Razakus is special cause it relies on exactly 2 cards to win... I stopped playing priest cause i hate the mirror matches where it is all about drawing your stuff first...
I'm amazed that there isn't a post like this every day. With millions of Hearthstone players globally, someone, somewhere, is experiencing a seemingly impossible sequence of unlucky draws at any given time.
Another factor in this is deck building; if the deck isn't well refined then you are going to find yourself in bad positions relying on draw much more often.
However, it seems like you're netdecking so in theory that should not be the problem. I think the points about playing efficiently and not wasting stuff are really important. How you use the cards you have got is really crucial. Say for example, playing everything into AoE without thinking instead of deciding how many cards/minions you can afford to lose, what your opponent is going to see as 'value' for their AoE and whether you need to go all in to have a chance to win.
Bitch i'm Willy Wonka!