As a huge player of HS, I sincerely wonder if the game is not going straight in the wall with the current meta. I like to play unconventionnal decks, but it seems now they have litteraly no chance to win a single game. We have basically three archetypes right now on ladder (i'm playing in wild) :
- Pirate Warrior, despite the nerf, how many times have I been in this situation :
Turn 1 : start the game with 21 PV
Turn 4 : Dead
- Jade druid : despite the nerf once again, turn 4 10 mana, then UI :
Can't do anything with the pressure after that
- And finally, DK RenoPriest, no screen for this one but it is just impossible to fight against this, or at least I can't manage to do it. I tried fast aggro that I hate, but get counter by those countless spell that instantly clean the board, I tried control/exodia but they always kill me/my board before I can have a hope. The only way to win is if they don't draw their Raza/Anduin, which never happens.
And the problem is that if you tech a deck to counter one archetype, you get rekt by the two other.
This thread is not intended to be a salty one, I just wonder two things : first, will the game last long with this kind of ladder, second, could anyone suggest me a polyvalent wild deck which could stand a chance against the current meta ?
Edit : Just to be clear with you pirate warrior player, if my turn 2 hasn't started yet, I consider I'm still on turn 1.
Here's a simple rule: Better decks will get you better win rates. These decks have been tinkered by literally most HS players, including the pros themselves, so it's obvious they'll give the one playing them more wins... If you want to go rogue and play your own, original, custom made deck, then be prepared for your win rate to lower dramatically. it's that simple.
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You're out of line. I play meme decks too, you just have to accept that you're running a non-optimised list. 'Waaaah my meme deck won't beat pirate warriors' makes you sound incredibly immature.
To answer you question, yes. The meta right now is healthy for the future of the game.
To answer your other question, try Anyfin paladin. It's a ton off fun and actually quite strong.
You had 21 hp on the second turn, and died on the 5th. You also coined out truesilver on 3 despite the rest of cards in your hand being what they are. Your argument is thusly invalid.
Your last sentence is grammatically wrong. First of all, "thusly" is not a word. Second, even if you wrote "thus", it's structurally incorrect to write "thus" after "is".
#grammarnazi
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"As housecarl I am sworn to your service. I will protect you and all you own, with my life." - Lydia of Whiterun
OP opens his post with a lie. Obviously opponent is on turn 2 and his turn 2 is about to start, entire post is invalid as nothing he says can be believed.
why did you not, coin stonehill grab another curve taunt, then wikerflame then play another taunt, you need to clog the board with taunts against pirate warrior and your deck is designed to do that, its all about just running him out of gas dummy, don't wait to coin a turn 4 play when you have such great t3's against a pirate warrior my god
Pirate warrior is not even close to being top tier deck right now...the fact you mention this shows your lack of knowledge for the current meta.
Jade druid is strong but still beatable with a good rush.
The real problem i see is highlander priest. Pretty sure this deck has highest winrate right now from r5 and up. It is the most well-rounded and has positive win rate against all decks except Quest mage.
Pirate warrior is not even close to being top tier deck right now...the fact you mention this shows your lack of knowledge for the current meta.
Jade druid is strong but still beatable with a good rush.
The real problem i see is highlander priest. Pretty sure this deck has highest winrate right now from r5 and up. It is the most well-rounded and has positive win rate against all decks except Quest mage.
Just in case you didn't notice, he's talking about wild
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"As housecarl I am sworn to your service. I will protect you and all you own, with my life." - Lydia of Whiterun
As already pointed, the only deck that's a real problem right now on ladder is Highlander Priest. And where is your custom deck anyway? You are showing just a vanilla control paladin on your pictures (and you're not piloting it very well).
Pirate warrior is not even close to being top tier deck right now...the fact you mention this shows your lack of knowledge for the current meta.
Jade druid is strong but still beatable with a good rush.
The real problem i see is highlander priest. Pretty sure this deck has highest winrate right now from r5 and up. It is the most well-rounded and has positive win rate against all decks except Quest mage.
Just in case you didn't notice, he's talking about wild
Oh my bad...didn't know he is talking about wild ...kind of just assumed he was talking about standard when Wild has no future to begin with =P
I'm with the OP. What's the point of playing a game if you're just copying decks and basically aggro-ing your way through most of them? Remember smorc face hunter? Now almost all classes can finish off as fast as that.
I play meme decks too and hope people start to play for fun instead of being so competitive all the time....
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Hey guys,
As a huge player of HS, I sincerely wonder if the game is not going straight in the wall with the current meta. I like to play unconventionnal decks, but it seems now they have litteraly no chance to win a single game. We have basically three archetypes right now on ladder (i'm playing in wild) :
- Pirate Warrior, despite the nerf, how many times have I been in this situation :
Turn 1 : start the game with 21 PV
Turn 4 : Dead
- Jade druid : despite the nerf once again, turn 4 10 mana, then UI :
Can't do anything with the pressure after that
- And finally, DK RenoPriest, no screen for this one but it is just impossible to fight against this, or at least I can't manage to do it. I tried fast aggro that I hate, but get counter by those countless spell that instantly clean the board, I tried control/exodia but they always kill me/my board before I can have a hope. The only way to win is if they don't draw their Raza/Anduin, which never happens.
And the problem is that if you tech a deck to counter one archetype, you get rekt by the two other.
This thread is not intended to be a salty one, I just wonder two things : first, will the game last long with this kind of ladder, second, could anyone suggest me a polyvalent wild deck which could stand a chance against the current meta ?
Edit : Just to be clear with you pirate warrior player, if my turn 2 hasn't started yet, I consider I'm still on turn 1.
Here's a simple rule: Better decks will get you better win rates. These decks have been tinkered by literally most HS players, including the pros themselves, so it's obvious they'll give the one playing them more wins... If you want to go rogue and play your own, original, custom made deck, then be prepared for your win rate to lower dramatically. it's that simple.
"As housecarl I am sworn to your service. I will protect you and all you own, with my life." - Lydia of Whiterun
You're out of line. I play meme decks too, you just have to accept that you're running a non-optimised list. 'Waaaah my meme deck won't beat pirate warriors' makes you sound incredibly immature.
To answer you question, yes. The meta right now is healthy for the future of the game.
To answer your other question, try Anyfin paladin. It's a ton off fun and actually quite strong.
"As housecarl I am sworn to your service. I will protect you and all you own, with my life." - Lydia of Whiterun
OP opens his post with a lie. Obviously opponent is on turn 2 and his turn 2 is about to start, entire post is invalid as nothing he says can be believed.
why did you not, coin stonehill grab another curve taunt, then wikerflame then play another taunt, you need to clog the board with taunts against pirate warrior and your deck is designed to do that, its all about just running him out of gas dummy, don't wait to coin a turn 4 play when you have such great t3's against a pirate warrior my god
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Pirate warrior is not even close to being top tier deck right now...the fact you mention this shows your lack of knowledge for the current meta.
Jade druid is strong but still beatable with a good rush.
The real problem i see is highlander priest. Pretty sure this deck has highest winrate right now from r5 and up. It is the most well-rounded and has positive win rate against all decks except Quest mage.
"As housecarl I am sworn to your service. I will protect you and all you own, with my life." - Lydia of Whiterun
As already pointed, the only deck that's a real problem right now on ladder is Highlander Priest. And where is your custom deck anyway? You are showing just a vanilla control paladin on your pictures (and you're not piloting it very well).
Poor soul, lost to a strong deck :(
there are enough counters for it imo
it's not as good in wild either. there are tier two wild decks that u can play to cheese the wild meta such as egg druid and anyfin paladin.
priest board clears are like having fun in hearthstone. you think u had enough, and then u get more.
I'm with the OP. What's the point of playing a game if you're just copying decks and basically aggro-ing your way through most of them? Remember smorc face hunter? Now almost all classes can finish off as fast as that.
I play meme decks too and hope people start to play for fun instead of being so competitive all the time....
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