This type of thing is EXACTLY why 95% of the posters on here have not an inch to complain about what Blizzard does....because you have ZERO clue. ZERO.
i dont even know why people thought it would be priestone
I mean, the fear makes sense. Before the nerfs, druid, pirate warrior, and murloc pally, were t1 decks, with priest being very close behind, and no other classes having super good decks. People were thinking that, huh, everything on this list is being nerfed except priest, therefore priest will start to take over.
The issue with that logic is that it ignores decks that are rising that had bad matchups against the pre-nerfed decks, but aren't bad decks in general. For instance, hunter got way stronger after the nerf because the nerf hit a lot of aggro decks that hunter really struggled against (and also hit spreading plague/innervate, which gives hunter another turn to kill jade, which is huge), so it suddenly became relevant in our new meta. So, now priest needs to contend with not only the nerfed decks, but also the decks that become better because they aren't facing the nerfed decks as often, or have good enough matchups against the nerfed decks that see play, which means the meta develops in a way that's a bit harder to predict than our initial reaction suspects.
This type of thing is EXACTLY why 95% of the posters on here have not an inch to complain about what Blizzard does....because you have ZERO clue. ZERO.
Well, for starters, there really was no nerf to Jade Druid. From what I have encountered, it hasn't changed in any noticeable way.
You also have the fact that the nerfs are still too new to make any real conclusion on how the meta will sort itself out. People are still experimenting with decks and card replacements to see how things have changed.
Priest is still pretty damn prevalent, hard to really tell if its any more, or any less.
And what I believe is possibly the #1 reason... Priest deck is damn expensive to craft. So while it very well may be the best deck out right now, if you didn't already have the cards, you aren't as likely to just run out and craft them, especially for a mid-season change with unknown consequences.
And to be honest, I now have a great reason to hope that Priests just swarm the game, so i can come back and make you look like even more of a flipping idiot for making a completely unnecessary condescending post.
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"Flipping idiot", lol. Posts like this beautiful gem are why I check hearthpwn every day despite not having played in months... How do you get this rage-y?
What damn ladder are you playing on? NA it is literally Priest Priest Priest. Razakus has run wild, I haven't seen a jade druid in two days. I've seen more control warlocks than druids. All I face is basically Razakus priests anymore.
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"Well, for starters, there really was no nerf to Jade Druid. From what I have encountered, it hasn't changed in any noticeable way. "
Vicious Syndicate win rate for druid (which was 53% for token and 54% for jade) has dropped to 50%, behind Paladin, Shaman, Rogue, and Hunter. That's a significant drop.
"Well, for starters, there really was no nerf to Jade Druid. From what I have encountered, it hasn't changed in any noticeable way. "
Vicious Syndicate win rate for druid (which was 53% for token and 54% for jade) has dropped to 50%, behind Paladin, Shaman, Rogue, and Hunter. That's a significant drop.
Everyone keeps wanting to jump on the VS data, or hrsreplay. It is WAY to early to draw any reasonable conclusions. As I said .. people are experimenting. I would not put any weight on those statistics until at least a week has passed. Sure, it "may" be indicative of what is to come, but it could just as easily be an anomaly. There just isn't any way to tell.
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"Flipping idiot", lol. Posts like this beautiful gem are why I check hearthpwn every day despite not having played in months... How do you get this rage-y?
Well, it was the nicest thing I could think to say about the OP essentially calling 95% of the people on the forum clueless because of 36 hours of statistics. Besides, I wasn't sure if "elitist asshole" was allowed or not.
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"Well, for starters, there really was no nerf to Jade Druid. From what I have encountered, it hasn't changed in any noticeable way. "
Vicious Syndicate win rate for druid (which was 53% for token and 54% for jade) has dropped to 50%, behind Paladin, Shaman, Rogue, and Hunter. That's a significant drop.
Everyone keeps wanting to jump on the VS data, or hrsreplay. It is WAY to early to draw any reasonable conclusions. As I said .. people are experimenting. I would not put any weight on those statistics until at least a week has passed. Sure, it "may" be indicative of what is to come, but it could just as easily be an anomaly. There just isn't any way to tell.
Be careful - you're making sense. What will people blame their losses on if they can't scapegoat a deck or the developers?
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"Well, for starters, there really was no nerf to Jade Druid. From what I have encountered, it hasn't changed in any noticeable way. "
Vicious Syndicate win rate for druid (which was 53% for token and 54% for jade) has dropped to 50%, behind Paladin, Shaman, Rogue, and Hunter. That's a significant drop.
Everyone keeps wanting to jump on the VS data, or hrsreplay. It is WAY to early to draw any reasonable conclusions. As I said .. people are experimenting. I would not put any weight on those statistics until at least a week has passed. Sure, it "may" be indicative of what is to come, but it could just as easily be an anomaly. There just isn't any way to tell.
Be careful - you're making sense. What will people blame their losses on if they can't scapegoat a deck or the developers?
Don't worry, I make at least a couple posts a day bashing the devs, or complaining about something completely uncontrollable, just to help even things out.
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"Well, for starters, there really was no nerf to Jade Druid. From what I have encountered, it hasn't changed in any noticeable way. "
Vicious Syndicate win rate for druid (which was 53% for token and 54% for jade) has dropped to 50%, behind Paladin, Shaman, Rogue, and Hunter. That's a significant drop.
Everyone keeps wanting to jump on the VS data, or hrsreplay. It is WAY to early to draw any reasonable conclusions.
You can't have it either way. Either it's too early to say or it isn't. :) I tend to agree that it's too early to say, but since you started out asserting that nothing changed...
I never complained about prieststone and I never predicted it. In fact I both thought and stated that priest has too many weaknesses to ever completely dominate a meta (in standard). As have many, many others on this site also stated.
What I have predicted (and what I am still predicting) is that druid will remain very strong, and I'm sure jade will climb back to the top decks when we see a refined post-nerf list, but I think there will be room for more decks beside it.
And let's just get it out of the way... you are clearly exaggerating the numbers and you look silly as a result. If you're going to make a thread complaining about "the people" and "zomg, all the sheeple are so stupid" and "I'm supersmart so I can complain about the herd as much as I want" - you should really, really, really, really strive to be precise.
Also, compare current statistics and the change it to "last 7 days" (which goes further back than the new nerfs) and you'll see a pretty drastic decrease in how many Druid decks are running around. Almost every deck that ran those two cards has dropped off the list entirely, though one specific Jade Druid deck is still doing well. Despite this, the overall stats for the entire archetype (as opposed to specific decks) has dropped to the bottom of the visible list (on the left), below Zoolock. xP
people overreacted because priest unsually unfun to play against (and i dont deny that) but priest never become second (jade) druid because this class has a lot weaknesses ,reactive style ( you need to draw perfectly to answer every threaten until draw raza and anduin) and most important thing : aggro/midrange always survive no matter what happen
This type of thing is EXACTLY why 95% of the posters on here have not an inch to complain about what Blizzard does....because you have ZERO clue. ZERO.
Yesterday everyone was playing hunter, today I haven't seen a single one. I was never saying prieststone was going to be a thing, but I am saying that the meta hasn't settled yet. You honestly just look like a jackass. How about you sit your ass down and wait a week before declaring priest isn't king of the meta.
Good call, guys. You got it bang on.
This type of thing is EXACTLY why 95% of the posters on here have not an inch to complain about what Blizzard does....because you have ZERO clue. ZERO.
You also have the fact that the nerfs are still too new to make any real conclusion on how the meta will sort itself out. People are still experimenting with decks and card replacements to see how things have changed.
And what I believe is possibly the #1 reason... Priest deck is damn expensive to craft. So while it very well may be the best deck out right now, if you didn't already have the cards, you aren't as likely to just run out and craft them, especially for a mid-season change with unknown consequences.
And to be honest, I now have a great reason to hope that Priests just swarm the game, so i can come back and make you look like even more of a flipping idiot for making a completely unnecessary condescending post.
I wanna glide down, over Mulholland
I wanna write her, name in the sky
I wanna free fall, out into nothin'
Gonna leave this, world for awhile
TBH, even if people whined about Prieststone. Just ignore them.
This is literally the first time Priest has ever been good. Let a class have its time in the sun.
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"Flipping idiot", lol. Posts like this beautiful gem are why I check hearthpwn every day despite not having played in months... How do you get this rage-y?
What damn ladder are you playing on? NA it is literally Priest Priest Priest. Razakus has run wild, I haven't seen a jade druid in two days. I've seen more control warlocks than druids. All I face is basically Razakus priests anymore.
"Blizzard is just a small indie game company" -Mathmachine
"Well, for starters, there really was no nerf to Jade Druid. From what I have encountered, it hasn't changed in any noticeable way. "
Vicious Syndicate win rate for druid (which was 53% for token and 54% for jade) has dropped to 50%, behind Paladin, Shaman, Rogue, and Hunter. That's a significant drop.
I wanna glide down, over Mulholland
I wanna write her, name in the sky
I wanna free fall, out into nothin'
Gonna leave this, world for awhile
I wanna glide down, over Mulholland
I wanna write her, name in the sky
I wanna free fall, out into nothin'
Gonna leave this, world for awhile
Free to try and find a game, dealing cards for sorrow, cards for pain.
I wanna glide down, over Mulholland
I wanna write her, name in the sky
I wanna free fall, out into nothin'
Gonna leave this, world for awhile
I never complained about prieststone and I never predicted it. In fact I both thought and stated that priest has too many weaknesses to ever completely dominate a meta (in standard). As have many, many others on this site also stated.
What I have predicted (and what I am still predicting) is that druid will remain very strong, and I'm sure jade will climb back to the top decks when we see a refined post-nerf list, but I think there will be room for more decks beside it.
And let's just get it out of the way... you are clearly exaggerating the numbers and you look silly as a result. If you're going to make a thread complaining about "the people" and "zomg, all the sheeple are so stupid" and "I'm supersmart so I can complain about the herd as much as I want" - you should really, really, really, really strive to be precise.
In short, crawl back under your bridge.
people overreacted because priest unsually unfun to play against (and i dont deny that) but priest never become second (jade) druid because this class has a lot weaknesses ,reactive style ( you need to draw perfectly to answer every threaten until draw raza and anduin) and most important thing : aggro/midrange always survive no matter what happen
It is too early to say this ...
Nothing but Razakus priests on NA ladder. Dont know what game you all are playing. Few hunter and pally but 80% Razakus priests .
The velen razakus priest is still aids, but I personally never claimed there would be a ''prieststone''.
Fuck cubelock