I think Blizzard should just give dust for any nerfed cards in your collection instead of making you DE things. Like Murloc Warleader might not even be a bad card after the nerf, but they force every one to DE him if they want full dust value with in a small window, and having the stigma of being nerfed means people will just assume he is unplayable now. Just feels counterintuitive to change something then give incentive to get rid of it.
No, I don't think so. I think murloc builds will still survive in certain classes (Paladin and Shaman). Paladin has buffs and divine shields to protect them, and Shaman has the quest, some resurrect and some healing
Plus, people seem to forget about Coldlight Seer (which gives +2 health to all other Murlocs). Warleader just won't be a turn 3 play anymore. Coldlight Seer on turn 3 and Warleader on turn 4 or Turn 5 with Rockpool Tidehunter to buff him up to a 4/4.
He's had his day in the sun and I'm sure they will now release other Murloc support that will buff. The fact that at least 5 classes could use them to beat the Lich King means they were completely overpowered.
Seriously, all the other cards are still playable, and there are loads of other cards that are just as bad as some of the murlocs. No need to be greedy about the dust (plus most of them are common and rare so you wouldn't get a ton anyway)
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I think blizzard should refund all of our dust for everything every time the make a change. Because when the meta shifts, who knows what is going to be worse, might as well be safe and refund them all.
that's like saying once they nerf innervate and spreading plague they should refund every player the cost of their jade druid decks, or that when they nerfed warsong commander they should have refunded everyone the cost of their grim patron decks.
No. Its easy to forget that these changes are just as much about the next expansion as they are about right now. Murloc decks are significantly weaker without the warleader, but murlocs might get really strong again when more murlocs come out next expansion. Warrior might be in a bad spot now without the axe, but this opens up the possibility for new strong 2 drops for warrior that don't need to compete with the war axe anymore. The innervate nerf opens up the possibility to having some very good cards without as much fear of them being played two turns too early.
Just because your favorite combo just got nerfed now, doesn't mean part of the combo won't get a new card to combo with in the future. Blizzard is taking the long term approach with these nerfs, thinking about how they'll effect the game for the next few years, but we naturally react to the short term effects.
No - because if you've been ranking up on the back of the broken murloc synergies you deserve to suffer. They should penalise you some dust for every time you play a warleader between the nerf announcement and the activation of it. Same goes for the endless sadcases spamming Druid and pirate warrior right now. So. pathetic. Lololol at those nerfs.
I was just starting to build a Murloc Paladin deck when the buff was announced. The only card for which I wouldn't get my dust back was a Vilefin Inquisitor, which is disappointing, but it could have been worse. I am thankful for having crafted Sunkeeper Tarim, since I'm sure he'll find use in other decks.
I accept that each craft carries the risk that it won't be as useful as I believe, and accordingly accept the loss of my 400 dust with grace. I'll still probably keep my murlocs, if only to have a deck to play when I get a murloc quest, and because I'm still holding out hope that murlocs decks won't die, at least not forever.
just when you thought you heard all of the whining. Someone goes and says this. How about Blizzard just gives you a button that says, have 100 dust. Press as many times as you'd like.
The fact of the matter is that they won't. Blizzard has never refunded cards that are indirectly nerfed in the past
They didn't even give full disenchant for Mekgineer Thermaplugg while nerfing it directly (Leper Gnome). This is a dev team that ruins basic class identities just for not giving dust.
Oh yes an entire card species is now compleeetely useless because a card doesn't give +1 health. Git gud.
won't even dust my warleaders, using them for the damage not the health. If i want health i use handbuffs, chum, rockpool, coldlight, megasaur or heck why not just tarim, and that's just a few paladin options
I think that people are a bit too salty. You'll whinge about the nerf then someone will come out with a new top class net list and everyone who used murloc warleader will.go to that instead and we will all forget he was ever good. Still see people whinging and making threads about everything in a grim patron deck?
Didn't think so.
The Hound says "whinging" once and suddenly every internet forum gets stuffed with this word.
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I think that Blizzard should issue dust refunds for all murlocs due to them relying so heavily on the Murloc Warleaders.
What are your opinions?
Yes, but don't will happen.
I think Blizzard should just give dust for any nerfed cards in your collection instead of making you DE things. Like Murloc Warleader might not even be a bad card after the nerf, but they force every one to DE him if they want full dust value with in a small window, and having the stigma of being nerfed means people will just assume he is unplayable now. Just feels counterintuitive to change something then give incentive to get rid of it.
No, I don't think so. I think murloc builds will still survive in certain classes (Paladin and Shaman). Paladin has buffs and divine shields to protect them, and Shaman has the quest, some resurrect and some healing
Plus, people seem to forget about Coldlight Seer (which gives +2 health to all other Murlocs). Warleader just won't be a turn 3 play anymore. Coldlight Seer on turn 3 and Warleader on turn 4 or Turn 5 with Rockpool Tidehunter to buff him up to a 4/4.
He's had his day in the sun and I'm sure they will now release other Murloc support that will buff. The fact that at least 5 classes could use them to beat the Lich King means they were completely overpowered.
Seriously, all the other cards are still playable, and there are loads of other cards that are just as bad as some of the murlocs. No need to be greedy about the dust (plus most of them are common and rare so you wouldn't get a ton anyway)
Quit complaining and just have fun with this game!
I think blizzard should refund all of our dust for everything every time the make a change. Because when the meta shifts, who knows what is going to be worse, might as well be safe and refund them all.
nope.
no, because warleader =/= every murloc
that's like saying once they nerf innervate and spreading plague they should refund every player the cost of their jade druid decks, or that when they nerfed warsong commander they should have refunded everyone the cost of their grim patron decks.
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no
No. Its easy to forget that these changes are just as much about the next expansion as they are about right now. Murloc decks are significantly weaker without the warleader, but murlocs might get really strong again when more murlocs come out next expansion. Warrior might be in a bad spot now without the axe, but this opens up the possibility for new strong 2 drops for warrior that don't need to compete with the war axe anymore. The innervate nerf opens up the possibility to having some very good cards without as much fear of them being played two turns too early.
Just because your favorite combo just got nerfed now, doesn't mean part of the combo won't get a new card to combo with in the future. Blizzard is taking the long term approach with these nerfs, thinking about how they'll effect the game for the next few years, but we naturally react to the short term effects.
who ever votes no to this is dumb...
what are you to get with a no and what are you to say with a yes? assuming blizzard gives a damn about the community,,, oh right,,,nvm
No - because if you've been ranking up on the back of the broken murloc synergies you deserve to suffer. They should penalise you some dust for every time you play a warleader between the nerf announcement and the activation of it. Same goes for the endless sadcases spamming Druid and pirate warrior right now. So. pathetic. Lololol at those nerfs.
I was just starting to build a Murloc Paladin deck when the buff was announced. The only card for which I wouldn't get my dust back was a Vilefin Inquisitor, which is disappointing, but it could have been worse. I am thankful for having crafted Sunkeeper Tarim, since I'm sure he'll find use in other decks.
I accept that each craft carries the risk that it won't be as useful as I believe, and accordingly accept the loss of my 400 dust with grace. I'll still probably keep my murlocs, if only to have a deck to play when I get a murloc quest, and because I'm still holding out hope that murlocs decks won't die, at least not forever.
just when you thought you heard all of the whining. Someone goes and says this. How about Blizzard just gives you a button that says, have 100 dust. Press as many times as you'd like.
Whether they should or not is irrelevant
The fact of the matter is that they won't. Blizzard has never refunded cards that are indirectly nerfed in the past
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I think blizzard should give every player 100000000000000 dust for each card they nerf
Oh yes an entire card species is now compleeetely useless because a card doesn't give +1 health. Git gud.
won't even dust my warleaders, using them for the damage not the health. If i want health i use handbuffs, chum, rockpool, coldlight, megasaur or heck why not just tarim, and that's just a few paladin options
Question everything.
And what about everyone got all the missing cards? It would be a nice refund, isn't it?
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