I think I have a 0% winrate against priest, everybody talking about druid, yes, it is pretty strong right now, but and about priest with raza deck and barnes deck? And with thousands of heals and board clears? Aren't they going to get at least 1 nerf?
Priest is not even considered broken, if u really suffer againts priest, try to counter him with 4 attack minions, he is not the class that cannot be countered
Priest is not even considered broken, if u really suffer againts priest, try to counter him with 4 attack minions, he is not the class that cannot be countered
I know he can be countered, but he still very strong even if you 4 attack minions, priest just beats almost every class.
Let's not forget that we can't analyze how strong priest will be or will not be once Druid has been properly nerfed. If priest does rise to the top (which I doubt it will) we would hope that Blizzard reacts accordingly. Yes, big priest is strong and irritating to play against, but we won't know more until post-nerfs.
If you're losing a lot to priest, you're probably playing a specific deck that happens to perform poorly against priest. I think many decks have a decent chance vs priest, so maybe switch decks?
I don't expect Blizzard to preemptively nerf a class because it might become good in a future meta. Also, just being strong is not a reason to nerf a class: perfect balance is impossible and some decks and classes are going to be slightly better than others in each expansion. It's only when a class overshadows all the rest that they will take action. For example, in the tournament last weekend, almost all of the banned decks were Druid; I saw one player not ban Druid and he ended up losing to it.
Idk. I think mill rogue just stomps a mudhole in priest since the majority of their cards are reactionary and they sit on full hands. Even their minion pressure is extremely vulnerable to saps and vanish. Just seems like a strong deck hanging on by a thread atm and will likely shift if people can stop tubing their deck against jades.
Let's wait till the most oppressive deck in the meta is nerfed before talking about Murloc Paladin. With Jade Druid nerfed, some very strong decks could rise and totally destroy Murloc Paladin, so who knows...
Yes, Priest is tough .. but seriously .. where do you stop (or start) with nerfs? There is always going to be a dominate deck. The issue that has caused all the uproar with Druids is because their only real weakness is another Druid.
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Let's wait till the most oppressive deck in the meta is nerfed before talking about Murloc Paladin. With Jade Druid nerfed, some very strong decks could rise and totally destroy Murloc Paladin, so who knows...
Yea I agree that it is stupid to cry for nerfs here and there. And asking for nerfing 100 druid cards is also stupid, something should be changed yes, but people ask for nerfing UI, Plague, Ramp and trashing Innervate into hall of fame together which is ridiculous.
P.S. Oh yea, and they wanna delete the whole Jade package as well.
Unlike Jade Druid (or for that matter any Priest deck) Murloc Paladin has been dominant since the start of Un'goro - never less than Tier 1, while other decks have rotated in and out.
Let's wait till the most oppressive deck in the meta is nerfed before talking about Murloc Paladin. With Jade Druid nerfed, some very strong decks could rise and totally destroy Murloc Paladin, so who knows...
Yes, Priest is tough .. but seriously .. where do you stop (or start) with nerfs? There is always going to be a dominate deck. The issue that has caused all the uproar with Druids is because their only real weakness is another Druid.
No, Highlander and big priest counter jade pretty well as does quest mage. The nerf party has begun, your favorite deck may be next.
I agree priest has always been op. All their cards are redic op mind control instant kill infinite value. What does any of that have to do with being a priest?
Priest is not even considered broken, if u really suffer againts priest, try to counter him with 4 attack minions, he is not the class that cannot be countered
I know he can be countered, but he still very strong even if you 4 attack minions, priest just beats almost every class.
Yes priest is tier 3. But look also the table, against who priest has his unfavorable matches? Druid. So he will grow a lot in win rate after the druid nerf. It is strong priest very strong. I think he will be in tier 1, like now the razakus priest version with reno in wild is tier 1.
I'm looking, and all I see is after Druid nerfs Pirates and Murloc Paladin will be Tier 1. No priest issues.
This is what happens when you do nerfs. People get all nerf-happy and want more nerfs and apparently new nerfs before the nerfs even happen. There will be the nerf, and then there won't be anything until the next expansion, except the predictable "I still get wrecked even with the nerf blizz plz do something whaaaa" threads.
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There are so many decks right now that are just not being played due to the druid infestation so right now noone knows what can beat priest or any other strong deck right now, Right now those decks might be strong because they are the ones with a fighting chance against druids but if the nerf to druids allows other decks to come into play then it is possible it all changes, By nerfing druids i mean weakening them not killing the class completely i dont want to see every card nerfed but right now they are controling everything you can and cant play and that needs to change.
i just dont see any way priest can have the control that druid has over a meta, Highlander priest is strong but it has bad matchups already and the fact it is a highlander deck means you can beat it before it draws, It doesnt have the draw of a druid, It doesnt have the ramp of a druid, It doesnt have the big threats or the wall of taunts of a druid, Yes it has more AoE and hard removal but its limited to 1 card so they need to draw it and once they use it you know you dont have to worry about it anymore.
As for big priest, Not sure what all the complaints are about it, People saying its unbeatable its dominant and stronger than Jade druid, Now if that was the case it would have been the priest deck used in the summer qualifiers, I mean you ban out druid then surely big priest becomes the best deck in the game and since its "unbeatable" it would have 100% win rate apart from mirror matches, Why didnt we see this deck over highlander priest i wonder..........Could it be because its a massively inconsistant deck that when it works smashes you and when it fails makes you go "What the hell is that guy even playing", You dont need to beat a deck that a good % of the time beats itself because its so inconsistant.
If druid is gone Hunter will be better again and it will feast on those slow Priest decks like there is no tomorrow.
Druid has the meta in check, when it's gone the meta can start to flow with more archetypes again.
My fear is not for priest to become OP, it is for Murloc Paladin to just break the game.
Even jade druid has some poor matchups, Murloc paladin has absolutely no matchup that is lower than 48%. The deck is just absolute broken all around. I really can't think of a deck that can reliably beat murloc paladin time and time again. Instead of people playing to counter Druid, they will play to counter Murlocs, but at least Hungry Crab is a strong tech. That and Spellbreaker will keep the meta healthy
I'm a wild player. In the wild Renopriest counters Jades easily thanks to "LightBomb", "Skulking Geist", "DK Anduin", Kazakus potions" after burning idols, N'zoth summons your deathrattles and druid concedes. But Priest also can be countered by Pirate warriors and aggro Murloc paladins
Priest is very oprressive against other control deck just like jade Druid but always prey for aggressive deck. When Jade gone , PW , murloc paladin and Hunters will eat all kind of Priest for breakfast.
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I think I have a 0% winrate against priest, everybody talking about druid, yes, it is pretty strong right now, but and about priest with raza deck and barnes deck? And with thousands of heals and board clears? Aren't they going to get at least 1 nerf?
Maybe... nah nah nah nah
Priest is not even considered broken, if u really suffer againts priest, try to counter him with 4 attack minions, he is not the class that cannot be countered
Maybe... nah nah nah nah
Let's not forget that we can't analyze how strong priest will be or will not be once Druid has been properly nerfed. If priest does rise to the top (which I doubt it will) we would hope that Blizzard reacts accordingly. Yes, big priest is strong and irritating to play against, but we won't know more until post-nerfs.
If you're losing a lot to priest, you're probably playing a specific deck that happens to perform poorly against priest. I think many decks have a decent chance vs priest, so maybe switch decks?
I don't expect Blizzard to preemptively nerf a class because it might become good in a future meta. Also, just being strong is not a reason to nerf a class: perfect balance is impossible and some decks and classes are going to be slightly better than others in each expansion. It's only when a class overshadows all the rest that they will take action. For example, in the tournament last weekend, almost all of the banned decks were Druid; I saw one player not ban Druid and he ended up losing to it.
Leave priest ALONE!!! The only cancer of Hearthstone currently now is druid.
Idk. I think mill rogue just stomps a mudhole in priest since the majority of their cards are reactionary and they sit on full hands. Even their minion pressure is extremely vulnerable to saps and vanish. Just seems like a strong deck hanging on by a thread atm and will likely shift if people can stop tubing their deck against jades.
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Yes, Priest is tough .. but seriously .. where do you stop (or start) with nerfs? There is always going to be a dominate deck. The issue that has caused all the uproar with Druids is because their only real weakness is another Druid.
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P.S. Oh yea, and they wanna delete the whole Jade package as well.
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Unlike Jade Druid (or for that matter any Priest deck) Murloc Paladin has been dominant since the start of Un'goro - never less than Tier 1, while other decks have rotated in and out.
The addition of Righteous Protector has only made Murloc Paladin stronger.
Is a nerf to Jade Druid really going to change that? When it was already thriving well before Jade Druid's recent re-emergence?
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I agree priest has always been op. All their cards are redic op mind control instant kill infinite value. What does any of that have to do with being a priest?
This is what happens when you do nerfs. People get all nerf-happy and want more nerfs and apparently new nerfs before the nerfs even happen. There will be the nerf, and then there won't be anything until the next expansion, except the predictable "I still get wrecked even with the nerf blizz plz do something whaaaa" threads.
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There are so many decks right now that are just not being played due to the druid infestation so right now noone knows what can beat priest or any other strong deck right now, Right now those decks might be strong because they are the ones with a fighting chance against druids but if the nerf to druids allows other decks to come into play then it is possible it all changes, By nerfing druids i mean weakening them not killing the class completely i dont want to see every card nerfed but right now they are controling everything you can and cant play and that needs to change.
i just dont see any way priest can have the control that druid has over a meta, Highlander priest is strong but it has bad matchups already and the fact it is a highlander deck means you can beat it before it draws, It doesnt have the draw of a druid, It doesnt have the ramp of a druid, It doesnt have the big threats or the wall of taunts of a druid, Yes it has more AoE and hard removal but its limited to 1 card so they need to draw it and once they use it you know you dont have to worry about it anymore.
As for big priest, Not sure what all the complaints are about it, People saying its unbeatable its dominant and stronger than Jade druid, Now if that was the case it would have been the priest deck used in the summer qualifiers, I mean you ban out druid then surely big priest becomes the best deck in the game and since its "unbeatable" it would have 100% win rate apart from mirror matches, Why didnt we see this deck over highlander priest i wonder..........Could it be because its a massively inconsistant deck that when it works smashes you and when it fails makes you go "What the hell is that guy even playing", You dont need to beat a deck that a good % of the time beats itself because its so inconsistant.
If druid is gone Hunter will be better again and it will feast on those slow Priest decks like there is no tomorrow.
Druid has the meta in check, when it's gone the meta can start to flow with more archetypes again.
My fear is not for priest to become OP, it is for Murloc Paladin to just break the game.
Even jade druid has some poor matchups, Murloc paladin has absolutely no matchup that is lower than 48%. The deck is just absolute broken all around. I really can't think of a deck that can reliably beat murloc paladin time and time again. Instead of people playing to counter Druid, they will play to counter Murlocs, but at least Hungry Crab is a strong tech. That and Spellbreaker will keep the meta healthy
I'm a wild player. In the wild Renopriest counters Jades easily thanks to "LightBomb", "Skulking Geist", "DK Anduin", Kazakus potions" after burning idols, N'zoth summons your deathrattles and druid concedes. But Priest also can be countered by Pirate warriors and aggro Murloc paladins
Priest is very oprressive against other control deck just like jade Druid but always prey for aggressive deck. When Jade gone , PW , murloc paladin and Hunters will eat all kind of Priest for breakfast.