to all players saying that "Druid is not the t1", yea its not t1 because its GOD TIER. I hope that they will nerf him but not like Shaman after karazahn
Yeah, but their ratings are based on the opinions of Hearthstone pro-players involved with TempoStorm and is heavily biased, especially since TempoStorm's Owner, Reynad, just trash-talked Druid and requested Innervate be moved to Hall of Fame. You can see how the ratings could be skewed. On the other hand, you could use the Data Reaper Live feature of Vicious Syndicate, which provides statistics/winrates based on tracked games and not assumed power levels.
Go under "Top Archetype Matchups" to learn the actual truth of the matter. The only decks that are performing very well are Jade Druid and Aggro Token Druid, while the other archetypes are placed on Tier S just to satisfy Reynad's salt. Not to mention that Murloc Paladin and Pirate Warrior are performing even better than those two.
Edit: I am not saying the two decks aren't Tier 1, but you can see the salt oozing when they are so quick to place it in Tier S with the new expansion having only been around for a week.
so you think that Jade isnt the best deck right now?
Not what I said. The whole S tier is basiclly satire, jade is tier 1, number 1, but the rest is questionable and the descriptions are mostly angery messages to blizzard lmfao.
so you think that Jade isnt the best deck right now?
Not what I said. The whole S tier is basiclly satire, jade is tier 1, number 1, but the rest is questionable and the descriptions are mostly angery messages to blizzard lmfao.
token druid is very strong too, tier s is half-joke but also half-true
S tier decks means flawless decks so there is also some utopian decks in it which borrows from other classes. But Druid is S tier class right now it has every possible answer Exodia mage is strong against heavy Druid decks but sucks against fast token druids
Before the rotation Shaman was also S tier class and it really sucked every body was playing shaman after Old Gods for one year.
I don't think that innervate should rotate to the wild but some serious nerf to the some new cards are necessary.
Exodia mage is tier one because of heavy control decks it is a ticking bomb for opposite players
Pirate Warrior is tier one since Msog tho it is weaker now
I am not sure about Highlander Priest and Midrange Paladin tho.
Jade Druid was designed from the start by blizzard to be a deck that allowed idiots to pretend they are playing a slower 'thinking' deck and get free wins due to raw power, compensating for poor play. It's no wonder these idiots are all trying to defend the travesty that is the current ladder, THEY ARE ALL PLAYING EFFING JADE DRUID! This Meta-snap-shot is a joke. I don't want jade idol rotated, i want it obliterated, for good. And they need to think about doing something Ultimate Infestation.
"The most influential deck in the current meta is Jade Druid; there is little doubt about that. The archetype has exploded in its popularity since launch, and has established itself as the most popular deck in the game across all levels of play. Ultimate Infestation is pretty busted, and has provided the archetype with much more consistent card draw compared to Auctioneer. Spreading Plague is also an effective tech card against board flooding decks, the previous bane of Jade Druid’s existence. During Un’Goro and Mean Streets, Jade Druid was a moderately prevalent deck that displayed a mediocre performance against the field. Those days appear to be over, as it is now one of the most powerful decks in the game, smashing the 50% win rate mark by a large margin, and bringing many control archetypes to their knees."
THE DEADLY LITTLE BROTHER: Aggro-Token Druid
"Good ol’ Token Druid was already very good in Un’Goro, and it just got stronger. It also got split into two archetypes, but we’ll focus on the aggressive variant that is at a more advanced stage of refinement. Crypt Lord has replaced Tar Creeper as that annoying 3-mana taunt you can’t get through, but this one snowballs off board development much harder. Druid of the Swarm is another very powerful card that is also seeing play in slower Druid decks."
THE POWERHOUSE: Murloc Paladin
"As you may have noticed, Druid is a very strong class, but the archetype that currently boasts the highest win rate in the game is not a Druid deck. Murloc Paladin, simply put, looks unbeatable right now. It certainly helps that it is one of the only decks in the game with a positive win rate against Jade Druid at the moment, but its matchup spread looks quite good against everything. Righteous Protector is a very powerful 1-drop that adds consistency to the deck, and while it is still up to debate, Corpsetaker is also seeing a lot of experimentation."
THE OTHER POWERHOUSE: Pirate Warrior
"Notice the pattern? Decks that are already good, are getting stronger, while new archetypes are going through growing pains trying to figure themselves out. It’s arguable that Pirate Warrior, and the other aggressive decks, are doing so well because the meta has been so greedy and slow during the first week of the expansion, but this deck is quite dominant nonetheless."
THE UNDERDOG: Secret Tempo Mage
"Secret Mage seems to be an archetype that is often underestimated, and ends up surprising everyone. The Mage class has been struggling in general so far, but Secret Mage just keeps going under the spotlight. Its ability to cheat an obscene amount of mana allows it to pressure slower decks quite effectively. It struggles against the aggressive decks we’ve highlighted above, so it might find its win rate drop as these decks become more popular. However, the archetype is fairly flexible and is certainly capable of improving some percentages in these matchups if it so chooses. Cards such as Volcanic Potion and Breath of Sindragosa are good examples."
According to Vicious Syndicate, Murloc paladin is the strongest deck in the game at the moment ("one of the only decks in the game with a positive win rate against Jade Druid at the moment, but its matchup spread looks quite good against everything"), but Jade Druid is the most influencial one, aka the cancer of the meta. It dictates the meta in a negative way ("bringing many control archetypes to their knees"), and this must stop now!
https://tempostorm.com/hearthstone/meta-snapshot/standard/2017-08-19
to all players saying that "Druid is not the t1", yea its not t1 because its GOD TIER. I hope that they will nerf him but not like Shaman after karazahn
I hope you realize that this is a joke.
be kind and considerate
People are still not putting Skulking in for another card - it maybe situational, but with so many druids, it pays off more than it doesn't.
Druidstone, heroes of Darnassus LUL
Tier S isn't meant to be taken seriously, but Jade and token druid definitely belong in their own tier
Yeah, but their ratings are based on the opinions of Hearthstone pro-players involved with TempoStorm and is heavily biased, especially since TempoStorm's Owner, Reynad, just trash-talked Druid and requested Innervate be moved to Hall of Fame. You can see how the ratings could be skewed. On the other hand, you could use the Data Reaper Live feature of Vicious Syndicate, which provides statistics/winrates based on tracked games and not assumed power levels.
Source: https://www.vicioussyndicate.com/data-reaper-live-beta/?utm_source=main-nav&utm_medium=link
Go under "Top Archetype Matchups" to learn the actual truth of the matter. The only decks that are performing very well are Jade Druid and Aggro Token Druid, while the other archetypes are placed on Tier S just to satisfy Reynad's salt. Not to mention that Murloc Paladin and Pirate Warrior are performing even better than those two.
Edit: I am not saying the two decks aren't Tier 1, but you can see the salt oozing when they are so quick to place it in Tier S with the new expansion having only been around for a week.
be kind and considerate
S tier decks means flawless decks so there is also some utopian decks in it which borrows from other classes. But Druid is S tier class right now it has every possible answer Exodia mage is strong against heavy Druid decks but sucks against fast token druids
Before the rotation Shaman was also S tier class and it really sucked every body was playing shaman after Old Gods for one year.
I don't think that innervate should rotate to the wild but some serious nerf to the some new cards are necessary.
Exodia mage is tier one because of heavy control decks it is a ticking bomb for opposite players
Pirate Warrior is tier one since Msog tho it is weaker now
I am not sure about Highlander Priest and Midrange Paladin tho.
Druid defence worse out in full force I see, no wonder we were stuck with stuff like undertaker for 7 months with community like this...
Only joke deck in tier S is Malygos druid, ramp druid is at least tier 1/2 too, so don't pretend like this list is only satire.
Spot on analysis, Druid is broken af. Not unbeatable, but yeah. Congrats on balancing.
Is there also a wild snaposhot?
Thank god there is no wild snapshot for this expansion so far. Its enough if that shit ruins standard, leave wild alone.
Jade Druid was designed from the start by blizzard to be a deck that allowed idiots to pretend they are playing a slower 'thinking' deck and get free wins due to raw power, compensating for poor play. It's no wonder these idiots are all trying to defend the travesty that is the current ladder, THEY ARE ALL PLAYING EFFING JADE DRUID! This Meta-snap-shot is a joke. I don't want jade idol rotated, i want it obliterated, for good. And they need to think about doing something Ultimate Infestation.
I'm going to leave this here (Blizzard fanboys pay attention): http://www.hearthpwn.com/forums/hearthstone-general/general-discussion/200964-vicious-syndicate-meta-report-jade-druid-is-king
According to Vicious Syndicate, Murloc paladin is the strongest deck in the game at the moment ("one of the only decks in the game with a positive win rate against Jade Druid at the moment, but its matchup spread looks quite good against everything"), but Jade Druid is the most influencial one, aka the cancer of the meta. It dictates the meta in a negative way ("bringing many control archetypes to their knees"), and this must stop now!