Please stop crying because JD is the most un-fun deck to play against and will completely ruin the fun we are about to have in KOFT. You got a direct nerf because it needed to happen. Please play some more JD and then cry some more because I will run Skulking Geist in my decks until I see no JD more a full week. We will smile when we eat your Jade Idol and when you concede, we will be satisfied. You probably have no idea how frustrating playing against JD when you are clearly the more skilled player but it doesn't matter. Rest in peace you soulless monsters.
Sincerely, Control Decks and those who actually play the game to have fun.
I have no problems if you play Skulking Geist as a Control Deck. Just don't play a Tempo/Midrange deck and destroy my Earthen Scales. I have 400+ ranked wins with Jade Druid. I have been playing that deck since December 1st week. I always have a facepalm moment when someone says that you lost because I could shuffle Jade idols into my deck! LOL! That's a trap. Never Shuffle(Except against Quest Warrior who won't play a card that doesn't progress their quest and sometimes in mirror). Please don't destroy my Earthen Scales. Blizzard please nerf buff Earthen Scales to 2 mana!!!!!
As a Druid main it's funny to see people complain about Jades when it's not even the best late game deck. You're gonna beg for Jades to come back when Exodia mages are everywhere
No offense, cause I actually don't know. But could you show where you are getting info on where exodia is run over by jade? The place I normally go to, vicious doesn't even currently have it on the match up list. Exodia, to me seems like it would be favored.
As a Druid main it's funny to see people complain about Jades when it's not even the best late game deck. You're gonna beg for Jades to come back when Exodia mages are everywhere
No offense, cause I actually don't know. But could you show where you are getting info on where exodia is run over by jade? The place I normally go to, vicious doesn't even currently have it on the match up list. Exodia, to me seems like it would be favored.
Another "Jade" Druid main here. Jade Druid vs Exodia Mage matchup is kind of even. A lot depends on Jade Druid's opening hand and Exodia Mage's ability to generate Ice Block. Jade Druid's strategy in this matchup is to rush the Mage down ASAP which is not possible against Freeze Mage because of Frost Nova and Blizzard. Against Freeze Mage, Jade Druid is highly favored and the strategy is to pump out big Jades, cast Earthen Scales at the right moment and just wait for all ice Blocks to run out and yes, play around secrets or secrets might wreck you.
and he didn't said that "Exodia is run over by Jade". Jade is okay against Exodia Mage but I think some Midrange decks would also do well against Exodia Mage.
As a Druid main it's funny to see people complain about Jades when it's not even the best late game deck. You're gonna beg for Jades to come back when Exodia mages are everywhere
No offense, cause I actually don't know. But could you show where you are getting info on where exodia is run over by jade? The place I normally go to, vicious doesn't even currently have it on the match up list. Exodia, to me seems like it would be favored.
exodia mage is favorable against jade druid.. and what duxberrie is saying is not that exodia is run over by jade, but that if jade druid gets weaker against control decks, exodia mage, which might get stronger with this set (at least i think so), will be the next "control killer" as people like to say it..
PEOPLE, THAT CARD WONT DESTROY JADE DRUID. Let me explain, as a Jade Druid player that has tried multiple versions of the deck this card will most likely make Jade Druid change, probably just gonna remove auctioneer to put in ultimte infestation and spreading plague while Jade Idol will still be in the deck it'll most likely be played as a 1 mana summon a jade golem instead of shuffling, at least people wont be complaining how it is "impossible" to win against Jade Druid with control.
I was also considering Ultimate Infestation but I don't see it working because it might get stuck up in your hand and it might burn a card or two sometimes. After casting Ultimate Infestation, you draw 6 cards, because you will be drawing a card next turn and you won't be able to play anything unless you drew Innervate. I currently play a single Auctioneer and a couple of draws from him are fine. I generally try to get value from Auctioneer only in Mirrors or if I can easily. I play Bloodmage thalnos as well. Cycling cards is better than burst draw.
But I am really considering 1 copy of Spreading Plague if the meta gets too aggressive. Can't really comment on that.
As many have said before, I don't think JD will disappear (assuming Skulking Geist probes to be good enough to fit in control and midrange decks...)
They still have many viable Jade generators. However, they won't be able to use that brain-dead Auctioneer + Idol combo which really was the main problem (to be able to prolong the game infinitely and throwing multiple 1 14/14's+ per turn was just stupid). So, the archetype will still exist but it will become something more manageable for other decks.
Now freeze mage, I think that is more problematic than JD...
Please stop crying because JD is the most un-fun deck to play against and will completely ruin the fun we are about to have in KOFT. You got a direct nerf because it needed to happen. Please play some more JD and then cry some more because I will run Skulking Geist in my decks until I see no JD more a full week. We will smile when we eat your Jade Idol and when you concede, we will be satisfied. You probably have no idea how frustrating playing against JD when you are clearly the more skilled player but it doesn't matter. Rest in peace you soulless monsters.
Sincerely, Control Decks and those who actually play the game to have fun.
While i agree Jade Druids needed a nerf, this card is totally retarded and focusin on a single aspect of it - shutting down JD - is very one dimensional. It will screw other decks as well, mby not top tier decks, but its a restriction to design space and deck creation and its wrong. JD should have been nerfed in a different way. And for ppl who play Wild, its a restriction, that will exist FOREVER. I know many ppl cant see it, cause of how much they hate JD and r happy this card is hittin them hard, but like i said, your praise and view of this card is very much one dimensional.
As a Druid main it's funny to see people complain about Jades when it's not even the best late game deck. You're gonna beg for Jades to come back when Exodia mages are everywhere
No offense, cause I actually don't know. But could you show where you are getting info on where exodia is run over by jade? The place I normally go to, vicious doesn't even currently have it on the match up list. Exodia, to me seems like it would be favored.
I never said Jade is favored to Exodia, you misinterpreted what I said
I played alot aginst jd as control and i didnt think it was that bad, just have to get their hp low enough in early game, save boardclears for essential moments and either kill them before it gets too tough or make sure they got no hand left. I played jd druid myself and you really got to manage your healing and know when to invest in the board. It sure as hell aint that bad of a deck, neither to play against or play with.
There are alot more decks that are kinda non-fun in my humble opinion bec you cant really interact with it (speaking about combo decks that can kill you from 30 hp, its like: ok you drew your combo now im dead, that was fun i guess ...) some examples about some decks:
Malygos shaman: oo i drew my perfect set of cards, now you die from 30 hp without being able to do anything quest mage: oo i played the right amount of cards + drew my combo pieces, now you die from 30 hp without being able to do anything pirate warrior: no explanation needed token druid: flappy bird or shtload of tokens token shaman: same old etc ....
MY point is that there will always be 'unfair' decks, but instead of being so salty try to counter them and optimise your deck, dont 'hate' on a deck bec you lost a few games against it ....
I'm well aware that Skulking Geist won't completely nullify Jade decks, but knowing it exists, and will be used, will help to mitigate the current form of the Druid ridiculousness. And when those decks inevitably move towards a less gimmicky way of generating value, and matches actually have to become a proper back and forth again, instead of 5 turns in a row of constantly growing Golems... Jade will be fun to play AGAINST again, which is all we really wanted.
As a Druid main it's funny to see people complain about Jades when it's not even the best late game deck. You're gonna beg for Jades to come back when Exodia mages are everywhere
As a Druid main it's funny to see people complain about Jades when it's not even the best late game deck. You're gonna beg for Jades to come back when Exodia mages are everywhere
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I get it but why are you directing this at Jade Druid players? They didn't make the card, Blizzard/Team 5 did.
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As many have said before, I don't think JD will disappear (assuming Skulking Geist probes to be good enough to fit in control and midrange decks...)
They still have many viable Jade generators. However, they won't be able to use that brain-dead Auctioneer + Idol combo which really was the main problem (to be able to prolong the game infinitely and throwing multiple 1 14/14's+ per turn was just stupid). So, the archetype will still exist but it will become something more manageable for other decks.
Now freeze mage, I think that is more problematic than JD...
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I played alot aginst jd as control and i didnt think it was that bad, just have to get their hp low enough in early game, save boardclears for essential moments and either kill them before it gets too tough or make sure they got no hand left. I played jd druid myself and you really got to manage your healing and know when to invest in the board. It sure as hell aint that bad of a deck, neither to play against or play with.
There are alot more decks that are kinda non-fun in my humble opinion bec you cant really interact with it (speaking about combo decks that can kill you from 30 hp, its like: ok you drew your combo now im dead, that was fun i guess ...)
some examples about some decks:
Malygos shaman: oo i drew my perfect set of cards, now you die from 30 hp without being able to do anything
quest mage: oo i played the right amount of cards + drew my combo pieces, now you die from 30 hp without being able to do anything
pirate warrior: no explanation needed
token druid: flappy bird or shtload of tokens
token shaman: same old
etc ....
MY point is that there will always be 'unfair' decks, but instead of being so salty try to counter them and optimise your deck, dont 'hate' on a deck bec you lost a few games against it ....
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Eh, the more you know! :)
OP, I think you have an odd understanding of the word "direct" lol.
A direct nerf would be DIRECTLY nerfing Jade Idol, not introducing a marginally useful tech into the meta.
I'm well aware that Skulking Geist won't completely nullify Jade decks, but knowing it exists, and will be used, will help to mitigate the current form of the Druid ridiculousness. And when those decks inevitably move towards a less gimmicky way of generating value, and matches actually have to become a proper back and forth again, instead of 5 turns in a row of constantly growing Golems... Jade will be fun to play AGAINST again, which is all we really wanted.
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Once you put Geist into your deck, you will automatically not get queued into Jade Druid.....ever.
You're all just trading in one cancer for another. Stop pretending like this is some great justice. Hypocrites.