I think there are two Kind of People who say this. The ones who do not have the time to make the grind to legend and like to think of themselves as skilled enough to get to legend (whether that is true or not). So they say everyone can get legend and simultaneously ensure their believe and devalue legend status. And people who have the time and the skill get to legend regularly and forget that this game is not equally easy to everyone. People on this site for example are usually way above average players.
Anyone can reach legend, provided they play a decent meta deck. All you need to do is to play a lot of games. It's not like you need to play perfectly or anything, but avoiding misplays all the time helps a lot too.
I somewhat hate when people say it's just time that allows players to get to legend. It's only partially true.
I've been to legend 3 times. Every time I wasn't actually trying to get to legend but I WAS playing to win (there's a bit of a difference imo). I never finish a season without reaching 5 for the epic foil card. Most months I top out around 2-4.
In my case 2 of 3 times I reached legend I went 5 to legend in one sitting (once was for thanksgiving break a few years ago where I had the house to myself son was an infant napping for a a good four to 5 hours and wife at work) another time I just played some miracle rogue with yogg on the last day of the season and some of my buddies started spectating me and kind of urged me to legend with just a few hours until reset.
The last time I got it with taunt warrior it did take a week or so from 5 to legend and about 85 to 100 games with somewhere around a 65 to 70 percent win rate with that deck (i would sometimes try to counter que or play decks for a quest).
So yes time can be a constraint, sure but you also have to win.
Fwiw, once I get to legend i usually dive right for the dumpster through a combination of just not being as good/trying out decks that I'm not good with or are meme-ish
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Just to provide a little bit of context: I'm naturally a pretty bad cardgame player. I'm pretty bad with numbers (I mean I was great at highschool math but that doesn't say anything) and I'm pretty bad at organising and structuring. I've gotten legend twice in standard and once in wild. The reason I got that was simply because I had the decks and the experience.
Not to mention people getting it with braindead cancer (aggro druid, pirate warrior, aggro shaman, secret paladin, face hunter etc.), getting it because they were coached or getting it in the early days of HS when people were bad.
The fact the amount of time needed to grind from rank 5 to Legend is huge is not debatable. Now obviously, not everyone can reach Legend. But the importance of time is still far too important. I've been legend btw, so I'm not finding delusional excuses or anything. But I seriously question whether there is an actual difference in skill between rank 5/4's and legends (not considering the top 100 Legend).
There are a lot of players who lack the skill and who simply don't care enough to improve. So I put "no."
This. I think that everyone is capable of Legend, because I think that if you want it badly enough you'll do what you need to do to make it happen; however, most people simply will not do that because it's either a) absurdly time consuming to grind the closer to 50% winrate you get, or b) difficult to get to a point where you're playing and making meta calls well enough where you can breeze up the ladder quickly.
So I put down yes because people all have the potential to get to Legend, but a vast majority are incapable of doing so with their current mindset or playtime.
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Legend does not strictly come down to a time amount like people are saying. You need actual skill at the game. Even if you played for 12 hours a day for 30 days and you only had a 50% win rate, you still might not get Legend.
Agree that Legend is a grind, but do not be fooled into thinking that everyone can get there. If you can get to rank 5 with ~65% win rate in a reasonable amount of time, you should be able to get there. However, win rate is a tricky concept to play with as well. Even if you got to Rank 5 with a 65% win rate, doesn't mean you're going to keep a 65% win rate against better players. This rate can EASILY drop below 50% if you don't understand the game at rank 5.
I think there are two Kind of People who say this. The ones who do not have the time to make the grind to legend and like to think of themselves as skilled enough to get to legend (whether that is true or not). So they say everyone can get legend and simultaneously ensure their believe and devalue legend status. And people who have the time and the skill get to legend regularly and forget that this game is not equally easy to everyone. People on this site for example are usually way above average players.
I don't say some legend players make horrendous mistakes randomly, I say it because I've faced that quite a good amount ot times. Unless something changed in the last 8 months, because I haven't bothered grinding to legend since, then I can tell you that yes, Anyone can reach legend. Hearthstone is no longer in Launch state, back then, yeah, you basically needed to play well to reach Legend, but after GvG, that all went out the window. They exponentially increased the RNG in the game, which consequentially allowed for many, many games to be randomly decided and strayed from their normal path and suddenly change outcome.
It's all about Blizzards stance. Blizzard wants all players to have an equal chance of winning a game, regardless of the experience they have in the game. Personally, I do not share that view, I think an experienced player should be allowed to win every single time against a less experienced player if he plays correctly, and not have random outcomes from cards influence the outcome of the game. Still, it's Blizzards game, and I have to accept their stance, I just choose to stop caring about competing. If other players are okay with losing thousands of dollars on Babbling Book outcomes, good on them. (That is just an example, since GvG, it's been chaos for competitive play)
I think you suffer from the latter option I gave. Of course People make mistakes on legend, everyone does. But I do not think that you know who the average Player is anymore. The friend who brought me to hearthstone played a LOT, and he never got past rank 12. And that is the majority of the casual hearthstone Players. And These People will never get to rank 5, let alone legend.
Of course, everyone can get to legend if someone else is playing for them. But Joe average does not have the time for 1000 games a month nor the skill to successfully Play with a higher winrate against the competition on rank 5+. There is a reason why only a couple of thousand People out of a few million active Players reach legend. Because it is not as easy as the regular legend Player thinks.
Yes, everyone can reach Legend. The only requirment is TIME and once you have that but may lack on skill level, you just have to become a bot and go with Pirate Warrior or similar decks. If BOTs can get to Legend each Season with "braindead" aggro then also someone playing the same deck can go there.
If you want to reach Legend with more complex deck then you must have also a good level of skill, on top of the time to play tons of games.
So I heard this a few times now and I want to know what you guys think.
Is everybody that plays Hearthstone able to reach Legend or do you think that some people might not have the potential to do this?
Yes, its possible,
you just need enough time... over the time, you will develop your skills, so (nearly) everyone can reach legend if he has enough time..
No, not by themselves.
I think there are two Kind of People who say this. The ones who do not have the time to make the grind to legend and like to think of themselves as skilled enough to get to legend (whether that is true or not). So they say everyone can get legend and simultaneously ensure their believe and devalue legend status. And people who have the time and the skill get to legend regularly and forget that this game is not equally easy to everyone. People on this site for example are usually way above average players.
Anyone can reach legend, provided they play a decent meta deck. All you need to do is to play a lot of games. It's not like you need to play perfectly or anything, but avoiding misplays all the time helps a lot too.
It's a bit of a loaded question.
There are a lot of players who lack the skill and who simply don't care enough to improve. So I put "no."
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Many players have win/loss records below 50% and aren't able to advance beyond rank 20. I don't understand how the answer could be yes.
No. All the players who have a lot of time for whining every day say that they don't have enough time to be legend.
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It's really not difficult. I wouldn't recommend it though, it takes a lot of time and the legend cardback doesn't mean anything.
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Going to go with no.
I somewhat hate when people say it's just time that allows players to get to legend. It's only partially true.
I've been to legend 3 times. Every time I wasn't actually trying to get to legend but I WAS playing to win (there's a bit of a difference imo). I never finish a season without reaching 5 for the epic foil card. Most months I top out around 2-4.
In my case 2 of 3 times I reached legend I went 5 to legend in one sitting (once was for thanksgiving break a few years ago where I had the house to myself son was an infant napping for a a good four to 5 hours and wife at work) another time I just played some miracle rogue with yogg on the last day of the season and some of my buddies started spectating me and kind of urged me to legend with just a few hours until reset.
The last time I got it with taunt warrior it did take a week or so from 5 to legend and about 85 to 100 games with somewhere around a 65 to 70 percent win rate with that deck (i would sometimes try to counter que or play decks for a quest).
So yes time can be a constraint, sure but you also have to win.
Fwiw, once I get to legend i usually dive right for the dumpster through a combination of just not being as good/trying out decks that I'm not good with or are meme-ish
Casual HS player - Achieved Legend in November 2015 and August 2016
Just to provide a little bit of context: I'm naturally a pretty bad cardgame player. I'm pretty bad with numbers (I mean I was great at highschool math but that doesn't say anything) and I'm pretty bad at organising and structuring. I've gotten legend twice in standard and once in wild. The reason I got that was simply because I had the decks and the experience.
Not to mention people getting it with braindead cancer (aggro druid, pirate warrior, aggro shaman, secret paladin, face hunter etc.), getting it because they were coached or getting it in the early days of HS when people were bad.
Fuck cubelock
The fact the amount of time needed to grind from rank 5 to Legend is huge is not debatable. Now obviously, not everyone can reach Legend. But the importance of time is still far too important. I've been legend btw, so I'm not finding delusional excuses or anything. But I seriously question whether there is an actual difference in skill between rank 5/4's and legends (not considering the top 100 Legend).
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No, I can't. Sorry communit I'm stupid, I can't pass rank 4 every season. :(
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Legend does not strictly come down to a time amount like people are saying. You need actual skill at the game. Even if you played for 12 hours a day for 30 days and you only had a 50% win rate, you still might not get Legend.
Agree that Legend is a grind, but do not be fooled into thinking that everyone can get there. If you can get to rank 5 with ~65% win rate in a reasonable amount of time, you should be able to get there. However, win rate is a tricky concept to play with as well. Even if you got to Rank 5 with a 65% win rate, doesn't mean you're going to keep a 65% win rate against better players. This rate can EASILY drop below 50% if you don't understand the game at rank 5.
Yes, everyone can reach Legend. The only requirment is TIME and once you have that but may lack on skill level, you just have to become a bot and go with Pirate Warrior or similar decks. If BOTs can get to Legend each Season with "braindead" aggro then also someone playing the same deck can go there.
If you want to reach Legend with more complex deck then you must have also a good level of skill, on top of the time to play tons of games.
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