Im stuck on that rank... got rouge quest/miracle , freeze mage , quest warrior
im jus playing it wrong I guess... any advice?
that is 4 decks unless you have a huge play time the first thing you should do is focus on one deck only and leave the other away for the moment. Try to focus on one deck only unless it is hard countered in your rank. Play 20 matches, not the deck you went against and choose one deck and focus on him only. I would recommend either quest rogue (good deck and quick matches) but the deck is really hard to play right, or quest warrior, much more obvious game plan easier to play but longer matchup.
if you are blocked rank 15 with good deck it means that you have problems in the way you play. The most current mistake I see at those rank is the mulligan, you need to know the mulligan for each matchup. You can try to find a guide (risen made one for quest rogue on hearthpwn) for the others the google it and follow th mulligan correctly.
i used to have the mulligan page for th deck in played open 100% of the time.
Those are all top tier decks. I would pick a couple and focus on getting better with them and seeing what cards are not performing for you and make adjustments accordingly. If you are playing quest warrior, for instance, and keep running in to rogues, try playing a different deck. Ideally, it would be good to have a agro, combo and control style deck and play the one that's most favorable for what you are facing on ladder. I was playing quest warrior and kept running in to rogues. I'm not really a big fan of pirate warrior, but I switched for a few and started winning more. Some matchup are just bad and nearly impossible to win.
Focus on one(maybe two if you have a lot of time on your hands) After mastering that deck you will easily pass one of huge hurdles that is rank 15, and sorry to say but rank 15 is going to be one of the easiest hurdles to get past on the road to rank 5 and/or legend
Pick a deck that you understand and can perform with. In some cases, that might not even be the best deck. Many streamers climb with an archetype they're comfortable with. AsmodaiTV (CosplayGrill) is pretty known for climbing with non-aggro decks, despite those being some of the best meta decks. Watching streams will give you a good idea of how to play certain archetypes. Even aggro takes some nuance to it, despite what the community would make you believe.
Think through all your options before you make your decision each turn and try to keep in mind what your opponent is likely to play. Also, mulligan while thinking about your opponent's likely first few turns. For example, I won't keep Northshire Cleric vs Priest or Warrior (not Warrior only because I haven't seen Pirate Warrior in a few days, they've all been Quest), but absolutely will vs Paladin.
edit: And don't overcommit to the board; play around likely AoE.
I find that 20-15 is a matter of playing a competitive deck (any competitive deck) competently, and getting a little lucky. If you hit a series of bad draws, or a series of decks that are bad matchups, you're going to lose games, I don't care how good you are. But if you stick with it, getting to 15 isn't that hard.
From 15 on, it's a little different. For one, lots of people hit 15 and stop trying to advance, because the marginal rewards for 14, 13, etc., are garbage but the difficulty of advancing gets very high. The time investment/reward is totally not worth it unless you can get to 10. So, if you're trying to advance past 15, you're playing against people who think they can get to 10. That's the top 20-30% of Hearthstone, so you're already not playing the bottom 3/4ths of the players, you're playing the rest of the top.
Now it's not good enough to just play a competitive deck competently (e.g., any Tier 1-3 deck), it's a matter of playing a good deck (Tier 1-2) and either playing almost flawlessly or getting lucky with draws. I find most of my post-Rank 15 games boil down to one or two misplays or one or two draws. Most of them end up being coin flips - if I get the card I need when I need it, I win. Same for my opponent. You end up losing a lot of games where your opponent just draws insanely lucky. You'll remember those, but you'll forget the times that you did it.
And then you just need to win enough games, and at the right time. You need to string together some streaks to advance quickly, then brace for the fall back when you lose 4 in a row. Or more. It's like a glacier. Slide forward 5 feet but melt back 4. You're gaining in increments.
I think in this range there's still a decent amount of deck variety so I don't know whether teching in matters at all. Maybe. I don't play enough and am not good enough where it matters.
Answer is very simply: KEEP PLAYING (spend at least few hours per day playing, and it has to be rankeds!) if u re tilted or tired just take a break, 15/30 minutes or even a hour and get back. And don't forget to draw coclusion after every of your games, what have you done wrong and where you could make better choices. By time you will learn.
And as someone before me has mention, pay more attention to your mulligan, you need to know which cards you dont want against particular matchups, for example: as Quest Warrior against Huntards you want to mulligan for War Axe, Whirlewind, Ghoul, Stonehill Defender.
As a not very skillfull player I think it's better to netdeck lists instead of creating your own, creating good decklist is very difficult, you need a loot of knowledge about the current state of the game and etc. Try using some deck from Tempostorm, I usually netdeck from there as they often have the best lists for ladder (but that's only my opinion). I reccomend for you Quest Warrior, it does great job especially against aggro, which is the majority on ladder.
If you want an easy deck, go Pirate Warrior. It's probably the lowest-skill deck out there that can wins consistently post-15 When I just need to grind out some wins, that's what I play. It's just soooo boring. But, it's fast. You'll know by turn 3-4 if you're going to win, so you can save time on losing matchups and not have to play for 15 minutes to find out that Sulfuras and/or Brawl RNG is going to decide the game. I don't even play it all that smartly and I win consistently with it. And for you Pirate Warrior defenders out there, I'm not saying there's not a smart way to play the deck, I'm saying you don't HAVE to play it all that smartly to win with it at 15. Anyway, there's plenty of guides out there on how to play it, and you can min/max winrate by playing smarter than I do, but if you just make the deck, mulligan right, and go all face, you'll rank up. People have written bots to run this deck and have gotten Legendary with them. It's that good.
Im stuck on that rank... got rouge quest/miracle , freeze mage , quest warrior
im jus playing it wrong I guess... any advice?
Out of these decks, I'd encourage you to focus down on either quest rogue or quest warrior for your climb. The other two are IMO more difficult decks to play, and while all are effective, I feel like your two quest decks are more reliable.
As you've heard in the thread elsewhere: Focus on one deck, and concentrate on learning matchups. If you're struggling at those ranks, then chances are you're (1) mulliganing badly for your matchup and / or (2) playing in a way that doesn't fit the game plan of the deck.
I think Quest Rogue has the simpler decisions, but especially if you're playing the version with double Vanish, there are moments where you need--similar to Taunt Warrior--to hold off on a good play and take some face damage to set up a potentially game-winning play the next turn.
Try Egg Druid. There are lots of cheap variations of it, and the curve is so low, you can beat the quest rogues easily.
I breezed through rank 15 to 10 in 2 hours a few days ago with it, that's without living mana in the deck.
its seriously underrated and most people don't expect it or the swings it can create, and the games are quick and interactive too as opposed to 30 min taunt Warrior games.
Granted , it takes a little experience to know what to discard etc, but give it a try if you are up for a change.
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Im stuck on that rank... got rouge quest/miracle , freeze mage , quest warrior
im jus playing it wrong I guess... any advice?
Watch pros/streamers pilot the deck and see what they're doing differently from you.
Quest rogue can easily climb to 10-5 if you have the method right.
Good luck! If you're on tilt, take a long break and come back. Do not rush your games while on tilt, it won't work out well.
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Watch streams, or get coached.
lets be honest, if you're playing those decks and losing, you need to get better at the game.
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Those are all top tier decks. I would pick a couple and focus on getting better with them and seeing what cards are not performing for you and make adjustments accordingly. If you are playing quest warrior, for instance, and keep running in to rogues, try playing a different deck. Ideally, it would be good to have a agro, combo and control style deck and play the one that's most favorable for what you are facing on ladder. I was playing quest warrior and kept running in to rogues. I'm not really a big fan of pirate warrior, but I switched for a few and started winning more. Some matchup are just bad and nearly impossible to win.
Focus on one(maybe two if you have a lot of time on your hands) After mastering that deck you will easily pass one of huge hurdles that is rank 15, and sorry to say but rank 15 is going to be one of the easiest hurdles to get past on the road to rank 5 and/or legend
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Pick a deck that you understand and can perform with. In some cases, that might not even be the best deck. Many streamers climb with an archetype they're comfortable with. AsmodaiTV (CosplayGrill) is pretty known for climbing with non-aggro decks, despite those being some of the best meta decks. Watching streams will give you a good idea of how to play certain archetypes. Even aggro takes some nuance to it, despite what the community would make you believe.
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Think through all your options before you make your decision each turn and try to keep in mind what your opponent is likely to play. Also, mulligan while thinking about your opponent's likely first few turns. For example, I won't keep Northshire Cleric vs Priest or Warrior (not Warrior only because I haven't seen Pirate Warrior in a few days, they've all been Quest), but absolutely will vs Paladin.
edit: And don't overcommit to the board; play around likely AoE.
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Watching streams from socalled pros is useless. Game isn't about skill or maybe at most 10%.
All the rest is pure luck of the draw.
Caveat: I've never gotten below rank 10
I find that 20-15 is a matter of playing a competitive deck (any competitive deck) competently, and getting a little lucky. If you hit a series of bad draws, or a series of decks that are bad matchups, you're going to lose games, I don't care how good you are. But if you stick with it, getting to 15 isn't that hard.
From 15 on, it's a little different. For one, lots of people hit 15 and stop trying to advance, because the marginal rewards for 14, 13, etc., are garbage but the difficulty of advancing gets very high. The time investment/reward is totally not worth it unless you can get to 10. So, if you're trying to advance past 15, you're playing against people who think they can get to 10. That's the top 20-30% of Hearthstone, so you're already not playing the bottom 3/4ths of the players, you're playing the rest of the top.
Now it's not good enough to just play a competitive deck competently (e.g., any Tier 1-3 deck), it's a matter of playing a good deck (Tier 1-2) and either playing almost flawlessly or getting lucky with draws. I find most of my post-Rank 15 games boil down to one or two misplays or one or two draws. Most of them end up being coin flips - if I get the card I need when I need it, I win. Same for my opponent. You end up losing a lot of games where your opponent just draws insanely lucky. You'll remember those, but you'll forget the times that you did it.
And then you just need to win enough games, and at the right time. You need to string together some streaks to advance quickly, then brace for the fall back when you lose 4 in a row. Or more. It's like a glacier. Slide forward 5 feet but melt back 4. You're gaining in increments.
I think in this range there's still a decent amount of deck variety so I don't know whether teching in matters at all. Maybe. I don't play enough and am not good enough where it matters.
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Answer is very simply: KEEP PLAYING (spend at least few hours per day playing, and it has to be rankeds!) if u re tilted or tired just take a break, 15/30 minutes or even a hour and get back. And don't forget to draw coclusion after every of your games, what have you done wrong and where you could make better choices. By time you will learn.
And as someone before me has mention, pay more attention to your mulligan, you need to know which cards you dont want against particular matchups, for example: as Quest Warrior against Huntards you want to mulligan for War Axe, Whirlewind, Ghoul, Stonehill Defender.
As a not very skillfull player I think it's better to netdeck lists instead of creating your own, creating good decklist is very difficult, you need a loot of knowledge about the current state of the game and etc. Try using some deck from Tempostorm, I usually netdeck from there as they often have the best lists for ladder (but that's only my opinion). I reccomend for you Quest Warrior, it does great job especially against aggro, which is the majority on ladder.
If you want an easy deck, go Pirate Warrior. It's probably the lowest-skill deck out there that can wins consistently post-15 When I just need to grind out some wins, that's what I play. It's just soooo boring. But, it's fast. You'll know by turn 3-4 if you're going to win, so you can save time on losing matchups and not have to play for 15 minutes to find out that Sulfuras and/or Brawl RNG is going to decide the game. I don't even play it all that smartly and I win consistently with it. And for you Pirate Warrior defenders out there, I'm not saying there's not a smart way to play the deck, I'm saying you don't HAVE to play it all that smartly to win with it at 15. Anyway, there's plenty of guides out there on how to play it, and you can min/max winrate by playing smarter than I do, but if you just make the deck, mulligan right, and go all face, you'll rank up. People have written bots to run this deck and have gotten Legendary with them. It's that good.
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Try Egg Druid. There are lots of cheap variations of it, and the curve is so low, you can beat the quest rogues easily.
I breezed through rank 15 to 10 in 2 hours a few days ago with it, that's without living mana in the deck.
its seriously underrated and most people don't expect it or the swings it can create, and the games are quick and interactive too as opposed to 30 min taunt Warrior games.
Granted , it takes a little experience to know what to discard etc, but give it a try if you are up for a change.