Instead of making a thread on a forum you could be a proactive player and reconstruct your deck to have a more positive outcome against priest decks, or whatever currently counters you.
Instead of making a thread on a forum you could be a proactive player and reconstruct your deck to have a more positive outcome against priest decks, or whatever currently counters you.
If I knew how to counter it I wouldnt lose to it all the time and complain about it. I truly dont get how you could consistently beat priest
You have good cards in your deck? They get stolen.
Priest has way to get rid of all minions whether aoe or single target.
Majority of the cards employed by priest have tons of health making them hard too remove
You ever have to consistently deal with a 10/10 on turn 3 or 4 from any other deck?
Supposedly aggro sucks but how do you win late against infinite heals and jacking the card you spent all game waiting for?
I'm a noob. I admit it. I just dont see how I'm supposed to win against a competent priest with the cards I have
Instead of making a thread on a forum you could be a proactive player and reconstruct your deck to have a more positive outcome against priest decks, or whatever currently counters you.
currently many decks counter priest, at the same time one feels pressured by it because of the heal, thoughtsteal, circle, board clear, holy nova/fire, it's all understandable
it's just that many players are more concerned about the hunters...
the only thing is priest isn't really super common....it only got popular coz of 3 reasons...
1) amaz + trump played with success 2) naxx cards kinda helped priest a lil bit.... and last but not least it seems to have potential to have decent matchups against all...but of course this doesn't really happen, while priest owns you from time to time, you often forget how often you own priest with your plays....
and since many players labeled priest as the weakest class, they prefer to play it to show you how "weak" the class is, in reality it's decent if you play it right
another can argue mage/paladin are the weakest in the meta....but are they really???? they seem to be "bad" in the meta but they still own in the arenas....can you really say they are the weakest class? they are by default have the strongest basic cards...that's how good of a class they are...
so in a sense weakest/strongest is very subjectiveto change + luck
then another can argue hey druids didnt' even get buffed from the naxx expansions....but can you really say druids are weak? they are versatile class since the beginning of times...and kolento has been dominating with it even after naxx lol...
so hence...all classes are really "balanced" imho, another can argue hey look at hunter...everybody can get into top legend with it...
but in reality hunters bad matchups are seldom seen in the current meta...if you see more of hunter's bad matchup im pretty sure hunters will die
wtf???what are hunters bad matchups??? you should've done some research my fd...alright i'll give you a hint...aggro
something that kills hunters before he kills you....
Instead of making a thread on a forum you could be a proactive player and reconstruct your deck to have a more positive outcome against priest decks, or whatever currently counters you.
If I knew how to counter it I wouldnt lose to it all the time and complain about it. I truly dont get how you could consistently beat priest
You have good cards in your deck? They get stolen.
Priest has way to get rid of all minions whether aoe or single target.
Majority of the cards employed by priest have tons of health making them hard too remove
You ever have to consistently deal with a 10/10 on turn 3 or 4 from any other deck?
Supposedly aggro sucks but how do you win late against infinite heals and jacking the card you spent all game waiting for?
I'm a noob. I admit it. I just dont see how I'm supposed to win against a competent priest with the cards I have
there are 2 ways to deal with priest.....
if you play aggro....spam the board while at the same time keep your minions over 2 health
if you play control...spam the board while at the same time bait out those shadow word death....once you've seen 2 of them played you can play your best minions....of course until turn 10...bam mind control...so be ware...turn 10 mind control...
if you play midrange...rush his face keep minions over 2 heatlh do trades in your favor but always keep them over 2 heatlh ....beware of turn 4 board clear auchenai+circle
you've realized if you have a lot of boad presence....priest will be having a lot of trouble of course occasionally he clears the board with auchenai+ circle that's why you try the best to play around them with you death rattle minions and at the same time controlling the board
If I knew how to counter it I wouldnt lose to it all the time and complain about it. I truly dont get how you could consistently beat priest
-Nobody said it was easy, Priests have gotten much stronger after Naxx.
You have good cards in your deck? They get stolen.
-Thoughtsteal doesn't always pull the good cards, sometimes it's useless cards
Priest has way to get rid of all minions whether aoe or single target.
-It's your job to play around it
Majority of the cards employed by priest have tons of health making them hard too remove
-That's where you have your hard removal cards, minion trading in the worst case, then again, there's nothing we can do about a 4/7 Blademaster turn 3 either, everybody struggles with that. Although Shamans and Mages have it a little easier with Hex and Polymorph, then that's how you punish the Priest.
You ever have to consistently deal with a 10/10 on turn 3 or 4 from any other deck?
-There aren't much of the Inner Fire/Divine Spirit shenanigans as you progress up the ladder, they're too inconsistent, you were just unlucky to come across one.
Supposedly aggro sucks but how do you win late against infinite heals and jacking the card you spent all game waiting for?
-If you're aggro, you don't. Sorry, but if you get to late game and can't kill Priest, Priest can pretty much sit back and win, that's the downside to aggro playing against a class like Priest.
I would stop focusing on being frustrated after losing your minions to spells, it's bound to happen every game, it happens to the pro players all the time. Instead, focus on playing smarter and playing around those spells or make those spells as awkward to cast as possible. :)
Priest is easily the most annoying class in the game to me by far.
Is this our first "Nerf Priest!" thread? Priest has come so far since pre-Naxx. **high fives Priest**
I dont think its too strong I just think its incredibly annoying and unfun to play against in the same way freeze mage, secret mage, or miracle rogue is to other people
You can argue: ''No, they have Auchenai Soulpriest + Circle of Healing!'', which I agree, but can you name any other good priest midrange cards? Have you seen other 4 drops in Priest decks other than Auchenai Soulpriest, or good 5 drops other than Loatheb, Azure Drake and Sludge Belcher, which are neutrals? I dont think so.
What happens is that Priest games rely a lot on RNG(see Thoughtsteal and the need of lots of combo cards to be efficient, such as Auchenai Soulpriest orInjured Blademaster + Circle of Healing), so they arent really something hard to deal if you get lucky. If they get those combos, they have a great chance of winning, but if not, well, they have a great chance of losing. Thats what happens.
Thus, a good way to efficiently deal with Priest is to play Midrange decks. They can easily outlast Priest by having huge tempo swings in the midgame and exploiting the lack of answers of Priests to minions with 4 attack or with a good deathrattles. Even some Control decks can now beat Priest efficiently, such as Ramp Druid and Control Warrior(Handlock is quite a 50%-50% matchup).
However, Aggro decks, which appears to be the kind of deck you play, struggle a lot to beat them because Priests have so much AoE, early removal and good taunts(Deathlord andSludge Belcher), which are elements that counter Aggro decks. So if you are playing Aggro and have bad matchups against Priest, dont worry, as they arent dominant in the meta.
PS: Priests arent for sure an unfun matchup. If you played this game in the beta, such as I did, you know what is an unfun matchup: when Mind Control costed 8, Priests were a nightmare to all players, as their winrate was absurd and the matchup was really unfun to play, as they had answers to all things and by t8 they could just win the game by mindcontroling a minion you spent your whole turn on.
I hate them too, more so because they take an era to make simple moves. I mean, their decks are mostly the same, yet it seems Priest players need more time to ponder ... and yes, I hate that they get to steal half your deck to play back against you too ... irritating. But, that's part of the game. I also hate rogues, because they can use about 50 cards per turn and kill you in one if they get that right combo [slight exaggeration!] But ... again ... you need to learn to adapt to various classes. If you're having most trouble against one, then tailor your deck a little more to counter it.
Personally I find Priests an annoying class to go against. I've tried playing them a bit and can't really get into the class either. It's not that I have an exceptionally hard time with them, or that i think they're overpowered, or anything like that. It just seems like so many of my games against Priests turn into "death by small cuts" to one player or another. We fight to a standstill, until either they run out of removal or I die to fatigue. Maybe it's just the types of decks I tend to play, but despite playing a few different classes they have consistently remained my least favorite match up.
Bumping this because after losing to priest with rogue yet again I have seriously had enough. Can someone please help me construct a deck to beat priest consistently. I dont care what class I need to play I'm just sick of this nonsense. I'm only rank 18 and I have been playing for about 3 weeks. I dont have the best cards or the best decks but there has to be a way for me to win with the tools I have. If anyone wants to help I will list card decks I use as well as rare cards I have
At least priest decks aren't brainless... I actually like how blizzard solved their problem with the lack of early game presence, I wish they did the same job with mage in naxx and solved mages problems...
i agree.. i hate playing them.. even the win don't feel good... i feel like the current priest deck ppl are playing.. which are all pretty much the same deck.... are just trolling the game...
i mean the ladder grind is annoying playing so many priests early on... i seriously got to the point where i just conceded to them first turn.. not cause i thought a win was impossible, i just didn't want to waste my time..
doing that ended up working wonder for me... cause i am now at like rank 11
Priest is easily the most annoying class in the game to me by far
- Steals card from your deck, hand, and even from the field. Why do priest get a card that can do favorable trades and take my cards??
- You playing something with 3 damage or less? Something with 5 damage? 2 health? destroyed
- Essentially has a fireball that also heals
There is sooo much more but I dont want to go into a full blown rant. Its just never fun for me whether I win or lose
lol... that fireball is 6 mana and only does 5 dmg...at least he can't double fireball and icebolt your face lol
supposingly warrior beats priest...hunter should/might have favorable matchup as well
druid definitely has favorable matchup with priest coz of many 4 attack minions
supposingly control paladin has favorable matchup with priest
so what has bad matchups vs priest? aggro aggro and aggro are all bad matchup against priest
so are you an aggro player my friend?
im pretty sure with the current meta...more people complain about hunters than priest lol
cough. maybe
it's ok, i played aggro decks before naxx arrived....and hell priest was the toughest matchup! and yet priests were labeled as weakest class
the truth is priest is super strong against aggro decks!
Instead of making a thread on a forum you could be a proactive player and reconstruct your deck to have a more positive outcome against priest decks, or whatever currently counters you.
Caution: Steep Incline (Ramp Druid)
Is this our first "Nerf Priest!" thread? Priest has come so far since pre-Naxx. **high fives Priest**
Poetic.
If I knew how to counter it I wouldnt lose to it all the time and complain about it. I truly dont get how you could consistently beat priest
You have good cards in your deck? They get stolen.
Priest has way to get rid of all minions whether aoe or single target.
Majority of the cards employed by priest have tons of health making them hard too remove
You ever have to consistently deal with a 10/10 on turn 3 or 4 from any other deck?
Supposedly aggro sucks but how do you win late against infinite heals and jacking the card you spent all game waiting for?
I'm a noob. I admit it. I just dont see how I'm supposed to win against a competent priest with the cards I have
currently many decks counter priest, at the same time one feels pressured by it because of the heal, thoughtsteal, circle, board clear, holy nova/fire, it's all understandable
it's just that many players are more concerned about the hunters...
the only thing is priest isn't really super common....it only got popular coz of 3 reasons...
1) amaz + trump played with success 2) naxx cards kinda helped priest a lil bit.... and last but not least it seems to have potential to have decent matchups against all...but of course this doesn't really happen, while priest owns you from time to time, you often forget how often you own priest with your plays....
and since many players labeled priest as the weakest class, they prefer to play it to show you how "weak" the class is, in reality it's decent if you play it right
another can argue mage/paladin are the weakest in the meta....but are they really???? they seem to be "bad" in the meta but they still own in the arenas....can you really say they are the weakest class? they are by default have the strongest basic cards...that's how good of a class they are...
so in a sense weakest/strongest is very subjectiveto change + luck
then another can argue hey druids didnt' even get buffed from the naxx expansions....but can you really say druids are weak? they are versatile class since the beginning of times...and kolento has been dominating with it even after naxx lol...
so hence...all classes are really "balanced" imho, another can argue hey look at hunter...everybody can get into top legend with it...
but in reality hunters bad matchups are seldom seen in the current meta...if you see more of hunter's bad matchup im pretty sure hunters will die
wtf???what are hunters bad matchups??? you should've done some research my fd...alright i'll give you a hint...aggro
something that kills hunters before he kills you....
there are 2 ways to deal with priest.....
if you play aggro....spam the board while at the same time keep your minions over 2 health
if you play control...spam the board while at the same time bait out those shadow word death....once you've seen 2 of them played you can play your best minions....of course until turn 10...bam mind control...so be ware...turn 10 mind control...
if you play midrange...rush his face keep minions over 2 heatlh do trades in your favor but always keep them over 2 heatlh ....beware of turn 4 board clear auchenai+circle
you've realized if you have a lot of boad presence....priest will be having a lot of trouble of course occasionally he clears the board with auchenai+ circle that's why you try the best to play around them with you death rattle minions and at the same time controlling the board
-Nobody said it was easy, Priests have gotten much stronger after Naxx.
You have good cards in your deck? They get stolen.
-Thoughtsteal doesn't always pull the good cards, sometimes it's useless cards
Priest has way to get rid of all minions whether aoe or single target.
-It's your job to play around it
Majority of the cards employed by priest have tons of health making them hard too remove
-That's where you have your hard removal cards, minion trading in the worst case, then again, there's nothing we can do about a 4/7 Blademaster turn 3 either, everybody struggles with that. Although Shamans and Mages have it a little easier with Hex and Polymorph, then that's how you punish the Priest.
You ever have to consistently deal with a 10/10 on turn 3 or 4 from any other deck?
-There aren't much of the Inner Fire/Divine Spirit shenanigans as you progress up the ladder, they're too inconsistent, you were just unlucky to come across one.
Supposedly aggro sucks but how do you win late against infinite heals and jacking the card you spent all game waiting for?
-If you're aggro, you don't. Sorry, but if you get to late game and can't kill Priest, Priest can pretty much sit back and win, that's the downside to aggro playing against a class like Priest.
I would stop focusing on being frustrated after losing your minions to spells, it's bound to happen every game, it happens to the pro players all the time. Instead, focus on playing smarter and playing around those spells or make those spells as awkward to cast as possible. :)
I dont think its too strong I just think its incredibly annoying and unfun to play against in the same way freeze mage, secret mage, or miracle rogue is to other people
Dude, Priest is a class that has excellent early game( see Shadow Word: Pain , Holy Smite , Dark Cultist and Injured Blademaster + Circle of Healing) and good late game(see Cabal Shadow Priest, Shadow Word: Death, Holy Fire, etc), but it has a large hole in the midgame.
You can argue: ''No, they have Auchenai Soulpriest + Circle of Healing!'', which I agree, but can you name any other good priest midrange cards? Have you seen other 4 drops in Priest decks other than Auchenai Soulpriest, or good 5 drops other than Loatheb, Azure Drake and Sludge Belcher, which are neutrals? I dont think so.
What happens is that Priest games rely a lot on RNG(see Thoughtsteal and the need of lots of combo cards to be efficient, such as Auchenai Soulpriest orInjured Blademaster + Circle of Healing), so they arent really something hard to deal if you get lucky. If they get those combos, they have a great chance of winning, but if not, well, they have a great chance of losing. Thats what happens.
Thus, a good way to efficiently deal with Priest is to play Midrange decks. They can easily outlast Priest by having huge tempo swings in the midgame and exploiting the lack of answers of Priests to minions with 4 attack or with a good deathrattles. Even some Control decks can now beat Priest efficiently, such as Ramp Druid and Control Warrior(Handlock is quite a 50%-50% matchup).
However, Aggro decks, which appears to be the kind of deck you play, struggle a lot to beat them because Priests have so much AoE, early removal and good taunts(Deathlord andSludge Belcher), which are elements that counter Aggro decks. So if you are playing Aggro and have bad matchups against Priest, dont worry, as they arent dominant in the meta.
PS: Priests arent for sure an unfun matchup. If you played this game in the beta, such as I did, you know what is an unfun matchup: when Mind Control costed 8, Priests were a nightmare to all players, as their winrate was absurd and the matchup was really unfun to play, as they had answers to all things and by t8 they could just win the game by mindcontroling a minion you spent your whole turn on.
I hate them too, more so because they take an era to make simple moves. I mean, their decks are mostly the same, yet it seems Priest players need more time to ponder ... and yes, I hate that they get to steal half your deck to play back against you too ... irritating. But, that's part of the game. I also hate rogues, because they can use about 50 cards per turn and kill you in one if they get that right combo [slight exaggeration!] But ... again ... you need to learn to adapt to various classes. If you're having most trouble against one, then tailor your deck a little more to counter it.
I daresay I saw this coming two months in advance.... right?!
http://www.hearthpwn.com/forums/off-topic/general-chat/16879-all-of-my-opponents-are-priests
Personally I find Priests an annoying class to go against. I've tried playing them a bit and can't really get into the class either. It's not that I have an exceptionally hard time with them, or that i think they're overpowered, or anything like that. It just seems like so many of my games against Priests turn into "death by small cuts" to one player or another. We fight to a standstill, until either they run out of removal or I die to fatigue. Maybe it's just the types of decks I tend to play, but despite playing a few different classes they have consistently remained my least favorite match up.
Bumping this because after losing to priest with rogue yet again I have seriously had enough. Can someone please help me construct a deck to beat priest consistently. I dont care what class I need to play I'm just sick of this nonsense. I'm only rank 18 and I have been playing for about 3 weeks. I dont have the best cards or the best decks but there has to be a way for me to win with the tools I have. If anyone wants to help I will list card decks I use as well as rare cards I have
Priests are still in last place for August in both constructed and arena.
http://hearthstats.net/aug
So QQ about priests all you want, other classes have better tools to defeat you.
Not sure if hyped yet.
At least priest decks aren't brainless... I actually like how blizzard solved their problem with the lack of early game presence, I wish they did the same job with mage in naxx and solved mages problems...
EU
Whether I win or lose its never fun anyway *shrug*
i agree.. i hate playing them.. even the win don't feel good... i feel like the current priest deck ppl are playing.. which are all pretty much the same deck.... are just trolling the game...
i mean the ladder grind is annoying playing so many priests early on... i seriously got to the point where i just conceded to them first turn.. not cause i thought a win was impossible, i just didn't want to waste my time..
doing that ended up working wonder for me... cause i am now at like rank 11