There is no way to ever establish board control against this shit. It was already annoying before Naxx, but now the class gets the most out of every single Naxx card that has been released.
New deathrattle cards like the Haunted Creeper make it even harder for other classes to deal with Zoolock efficiently in the early stages of the game. Early removals other classes have are usually not enough to deal with it and their board recovers just too easily. You basically never get a chance to do anything at all, as the Zoolock either controls the board and you can't put creeps on it because it is dominated so hard, or you waste all your mana on board wipes only to have the Zoolock recover next turn and put another five 3/2 or 2/3 bodies on the board. The new deathrattles really only made it worse. And that is even only the case if you have insanely lucky draws. Don't have a 1 mana drop without coin? You can go concede.
Being able to drop Doomguard without discarding is another point that makes Zoolock ridiculous, as he can just put everything easily on the board, drop Doomguard and recover his hand afterwards. Discarding 2 cards should be a mandatory condition to cast him.
It's the combination of playing insanely cost efficient minions and having easy as fuck draw mechanisms that make this class so ridiculously broken. I swear I go against 70%+ Zoolocks atm, just fought and lost to 5 in a row.
And now don't tell me to "just counter" it, as there is no reliable counter. You either get lucky as fuck or you don't (90% of the time). It's such a joke.
Ninja Edit: Another game, another Zoolock, WHAAAY!
Were you complaining when miracle was ruling the roost I wonder? Since your favorite class is Rogue.
If you searched first, you'd have found many threads complaining about Zoo and/or Zoolock decks, somewhere among all the individual complain threads about Hunters.
Were you complaining when miracle was ruling the roost I wonder? Since your favorite class is Rogue.
If you searched first, you'd have found many threads complaining about Zoo and/or Zoolock decks, somewhere among all the individual complain threads about Hunters.
a) Rogue was never "broken"
b) I've been playing priest for the last few seasons
c) Hunter is broken as fuck, too. But at least you can reliably counter him. Zoolock is a pure luckfest that always favors Zoolock.
Hunter destroys zoo. That's why Hunter became so popular in the current meta and zoo vanished for awhile. Now if there was only a deck that countered both hunter and zoo it'd be amazing.
Aww people voting it down because they think I am some sort of snob... I only play warlock and mage, I dust all other cards.. Sub what you cant afford, don't hate!
Been playing at rank 6 until 2 days ago, then came the Zoolock hype and I'm at 10 now....
And nope, hunter doesn't really counter Zoolock and it's only the 2nd most popular class right now. Zoolock is pure cancer. I'm playing Hunter myself right now to be able to counter hunter and have a 10% chance at least against Zoo. It's boring as fuck that I can't even play the classes I like because it's just not viable at all.
im sorry...but hunter, priest, warrior are all good against zoo...
if you still can't win, go watch some streams + netdeck
hunter is the reason why zoo is nearly extinct right now...although zoo is still not dead...it's onlly reason is because it's super fast to rank up to climb the ladder
Been playing at rank 6 until 2 days ago, then came the Zoolock hype and I'm at 10 now....
And nope, hunter doesn't really counter Zoolock and it's only the 2nd most popular class right now. Zoolock is pure cancer. I'm playing Hunter myself right now to be able to counter hunter and have a 10% chance at least against Zoo. It's boring as fuck that I can't even play the classes I like because it's just not viable at all.
Zoolock got weaker post Naxx. That's why they got kicked from top ranks to rank 6.
Yea, I could play trap hunter. But that means my matchups against mages and hunters would be worse which are the next big group. Got to 8 with hunter now due to a win streak. Didn't meet Zoo in the recent games, but I swear I was only matched against Zoo all day. Have been playing at least 100 games today and almost all of them against fucking Zoo.
And still I repeat: There are no reliable counters... It's all about luck against Zoo. You either draw the right removals at the right time or you lose.
Yea, I could play trap hunter. But that means my matchups against mages and hunters would be worse which are the next big group. Got to 8 with hunter now due to a win streak. Didn't meet Zoo in the recent games, but I swear I was only matched against Zoo all day. Have been playing at least 100 games today and almost all of them against fucking Zoo.
And still I repeat: There are no reliable counters... It's all about luck against Zoo. You either draw the right removals at the right time or you lose.
Nope. Nope. Nope. Go try midrangish handlock, tempo rogue, tempo priest, taunt druid, healadin/tauntadin. ZooLock has many reliable hard counters. I myself built a deck to climb up to rank 10 with a 90% winrate against zoo. easiest part of the climb.
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There is no way to ever establish board control against this shit. It was already annoying before Naxx, but now the class gets the most out of every single Naxx card that has been released.
New deathrattle cards like the Haunted Creeper make it even harder for other classes to deal with Zoolock efficiently in the early stages of the game. Early removals other classes have are usually not enough to deal with it and their board recovers just too easily. You basically never get a chance to do anything at all, as the Zoolock either controls the board and you can't put creeps on it because it is dominated so hard, or you waste all your mana on board wipes only to have the Zoolock recover next turn and put another five 3/2 or 2/3 bodies on the board. The new deathrattles really only made it worse. And that is even only the case if you have insanely lucky draws. Don't have a 1 mana drop without coin? You can go concede.
Being able to drop Doomguard without discarding is another point that makes Zoolock ridiculous, as he can just put everything easily on the board, drop Doomguard and recover his hand afterwards. Discarding 2 cards should be a mandatory condition to cast him.
It's the combination of playing insanely cost efficient minions and having easy as fuck draw mechanisms that make this class so ridiculously broken. I swear I go against 70%+ Zoolocks atm, just fought and lost to 5 in a row.
And now don't tell me to "just counter" it, as there is no reliable counter. You either get lucky as fuck or you don't (90% of the time). It's such a joke.
Ninja Edit: Another game, another Zoolock, WHAAAY!
Edit 2: Another Zoolock!
Edit 3: Jaina and then ANOTHER ZOOLOCK!
Were you complaining when miracle was ruling the roost I wonder? Since your favorite class is Rogue.
If you searched first, you'd have found many threads complaining about Zoo and/or Zoolock decks, somewhere among all the individual complain threads about Hunters.
a) Rogue was never "broken"
b) I've been playing priest for the last few seasons
c) Hunter is broken as fuck, too. But at least you can reliably counter him. Zoolock is a pure luckfest that always favors Zoolock.
I agree about Doomguard. Lock should have to take the two card discard or they can't play it.
Hunter destroys zoo. That's why Hunter became so popular in the current meta and zoo vanished for awhile. Now if there was only a deck that countered both hunter and zoo it'd be amazing.
Raise in rank, I usually play around rank 5 to 7, maybe 10-15% zoolock maximum and I beat them with druid like 70%+ of the time.
Like people said, Hunters are a plague at the moment, maybe 30-40% of matches... Lot of priests too.
My zoolock deck is insaine, my warlock deck cant lose right now. It's expensive so I'm not worried about copy cats!
http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/94254-thevoidcallercombo
Aww people voting it down because they think I am some sort of snob... I only play warlock and mage, I dust all other cards.. Sub what you cant afford, don't hate!
that's not zoolock, its demonlock...
Also what rank are you? The only classes I see are hunter. Zoolock gets countered hard by some decks, just build your deck to counter it.
Been playing at rank 6 until 2 days ago, then came the Zoolock hype and I'm at 10 now....
And nope, hunter doesn't really counter Zoolock and it's only the 2nd most popular class right now. Zoolock is pure cancer. I'm playing Hunter myself right now to be able to counter hunter and have a 10% chance at least against Zoo. It's boring as fuck that I can't even play the classes I like because it's just not viable at all.
how important is Jaraxus? i have every card except for this, your deck looks interesting, i might give it a go :)
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im sorry...but hunter, priest, warrior are all good against zoo...
if you still can't win, go watch some streams + netdeck
hunter is the reason why zoo is nearly extinct right now...although zoo is still not dead...it's onlly reason is because it's super fast to rank up to climb the ladder
Zoolock got weaker post Naxx. That's why they got kicked from top ranks to rank 6.
I haven't seen Zoo in a match for several days now... last ~50 matches have not played a single Zoo deck in the ranks 3-5 range.
Playing some deathrattle priest, im at rank 5 atm, won every match against zoo.
is zoo broken? nop, is really weak againts warrior, hunter and priest.
I have a 90% winrate vs. zoolock with my modified handlock. ZooLock has hard counters.
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Yea, I could play trap hunter. But that means my matchups against mages and hunters would be worse which are the next big group. Got to 8 with hunter now due to a win streak. Didn't meet Zoo in the recent games, but I swear I was only matched against Zoo all day. Have been playing at least 100 games today and almost all of them against fucking Zoo.
And still I repeat: There are no reliable counters... It's all about luck against Zoo. You either draw the right removals at the right time or you lose.
Nope. Nope. Nope. Go try midrangish handlock, tempo rogue, tempo priest, taunt druid, healadin/tauntadin. ZooLock has many reliable hard counters. I myself built a deck to climb up to rank 10 with a 90% winrate against zoo. easiest part of the climb.
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My warrior has a 90% win rate against zoo over almost 50 matches against them, I'd call that reliable.
Also, for reference, I am rank 1.
That feeling when op is in the moment angry. What is it ahck I can't quite put my finger on it..
Oh yeah, that's right.
Anger