Hearthpwn

Greetings. Since the last 3 months i've been wondering, how all these players from NA get such insane packs, like double legendaries, epic in every 5 packs, 3 rares in 1 pack and so on. Ive been watching Amaz, Kripp, several other streamers who open packs. So, I got the idea to track my Card Openings in fresh NA account and on my primary EU one. So far I've opened 83 on both accounts(waited till they got somewhat equal with each other), the starting point of both was a legendary from a pack to reset that thing called Pity Timer. To add more statistics to comparison, i tracked Amaz' 60 packs opening results and inserted into tab. These trackings are real based.

As you can see from the comparison, my NA account is pretty much goes toe-to-toe with Amaz'. But what concers me more,is legendary drop rate. On NA i got 6 legendaries(1 golden) within 83 packs, on EU I got 3 in 86. I guess, it differes by a lot. Note, that during all 3 opening processes ony Expert Set packs were opened. So we can conclude that people on NA get 1 legendary card per 13-15 packs, but on Eu i get one per 28 on average. I still cant get another legendary, as 36 packs passed by since the last one. Statistics says that legendary comes across 20 packs on average, but is it real?

At least, im pretty lucky with both golden and usual epics.

Blizzard is NA company, maybe they made different regions just to give NA players more benefits? Is Ben Brode a nationalist? I think i got him.

P.S. Just kidding. Just wanted to rant about my teribly bad legendary luck on my primar account. At least other players can feel better of themselves getting legendary once per 20 packs.

Seems, i have problems with polls. it got dublicted and i cant get rid of the copy.

UPDATE: Bought some more packs, the new bundle. Seems I'm the champion. 42 packs of the same type between 2 legendaries(Black knight, that i crafted after WOG. My terrible luck is chasing me. I got King Krush from the bungle, thanks)

While I really really appreciate that you actually took the time to start recording stats (there are so many that don't bother, huge props dude), you need a bigger sample size to make strong conclusions. Though 83 packs seems like a lot, it's not enough given the variance in packs. You'd need several hundred to justify putting on some tinfoil hats.

I'd suggest keeping this pack tracking going for a few months or until you have a few hundred packs and see if it holds. If it does, hey, maybe you're onto something. But until then I just don't think we can safely reject the null hypothesis that NA and EU are the same.

Wow, men your toadally write.

It seems that this silly conspirances theories will never stop. This is so ridiculous. The fact OP only opened 83 packs in both accounts and is already drawing conclusions makes this even more stupid. He said he is kidding, but it's very obvious he is not.

People still complaining about card rarities in packs? Wow...

i do have a bigger sample-size!

my record on EU is about 400 packs and my average legendary-drop rate is about 19,2 packs! (i seperated all different expansions)

It's just random. Some get legendary cards back to back. While some get nothing till they hit pity timer (40 packs). Some even get multiple legendary cards in a single pack.

If it helps, I'm on EU and have opened 265 packs so far and got 18 legendary cards. 



Only once I got the legendary card within 10 packs, while rest around 14-20 packs. Worst was around 28 packs. 

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It seems that this silly conspirances theories will never stop. This is so ridiculous. The fact OP only opened 83 packs in both accounts and is already drawing conclusions makes this even more stupid. He said he is kidding, but it's very obvious he is not.

If i was serious indeed, do you think i would be ironic about myself in voting and making obviously overestimated statements towards BBrode?

This thread gave me a little chuckle but it still doesn't justify how dumb it is.

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 So some russians actually speak english? Damn, good to know.

 Such racism, much scum

I would take your stats on your EU account any day of the week and I'm on NA server lol

Ben Brode new Supreme Leader confirmed.

Even a few hundred packs is way too few to iron out statistical anomalies (or arcane anomalies), you need a sample size in the 10000's before you can even begin to draw any sort of conclusion.

are you kidding me?? I have opened a ton of packs, and I do not think I have been any luckier than "average" might be

Well I guess it definitely is a big point there to record stats of 83! Packs. And of course it is not weird to see impossible card openings from streamers as, well, you CAN only see card openings from streamers. But I guess you gotta have to do it on different accounts as well to check if the server got a role here or the accounts. Maybe blizz just hates some people and not a whole region lol

Don't be silly...

with a sample of 80 packs... at least have 10k packs sample size before we can start taking it seriously.

No, we have the same convert 100 gold to 40 dust as you tinfoil hat wearing people across the ocean.

The fact is, is that it varies from week to week and we all have confirmation bias.

when we get good packs we are like this is how it should be, forgetting we got a bunch of epics some golds and a few legendaries in the span of a week or two. then when we have the Pity timer portion or whatever else we get salty about our garbage 40 dust packs.

The only legendary I feel salty and bad luck over is golden legendaries, I have one, cenarius who is pretty sweet but I have packed one lifetime. I have bought packs and I have opened a shit ton of packs since when I started before naxx, and when I cam back seriously to play the game and play dailies practically every days since june last year.

1 golden legendary, and never 2 in a pack of regular legends. I think these scenarios(almost got the pun) are super rare, as for popular streamers getting extra luck somehow I wouldn't put it past blizzard and especially other companies to do that, since it is a dirty form of marketing. But keep in mind Kripp, Reynoodle, and Amaz who I can't stand all open a crap ton of packs. Especially noodle for his golden obsession. If you think making stats based off 83 packs makes sense you should see them open 200+ packs in one throw.

it just varies, I think if you open all at once you do have better odds for golden legendaries though as evidenced by kripp etc and my own experience opening well over 500-1000 packs at this point I have no idea what number i'm at.

there are weird anomalies. I opened one big game hunter in a year of player, then on deadline day of nerfs I opened one on my main account, dusted it full value, then I made a f2p account and opened one but missed out on the full dust. On my free to play account I have opened something like 3 or 4 legendaries, and I have gotten Antonidas twice, same class legend twice, made me laugh the second time. on my main account I have never opened him had to craft him.

There is a lot of dumb luck with the system, and the more cards you have the more chance you will open stuff you already have and lose dust value. this is the design of It to get addicts / collection completionists to spend more money on packs as we need dust at a certain point to have any hope of getting cards we need as sets fill up, and then you will wait an eternity to open binder trash, instead you will have to shell out the 1600 dust on lorewalker etc.

Its a piss off if I had known there plans to keep classic a permanent set, I would have been able to have a full set by now I would have just used dust to complete it, but instead I dusted legendaries etc that are binder trash, now it will take ages to complete. Makes more sense to have a full set and just never open classics outside of brawl and spec.

this is the ups and downs of the 5 card packs system and dusting crafting blizzard has in place. it's good for news and vicious for veterans. but it does keep people playing as the f2p experience is very reasonable.

yep NA definitely gives more epics and legends