Control plays as linearly as aggro. While you have to worry about is clearing a board, aggro worries about their board getting cleared. And guessing what board clears are in your hand is a lot harder than looking at the board and counting the health of enemy minions.
And you'll say oh, but Aggro can win just by dropping a perfect early curve if I have no answers. Right, you'll lose if they open a good hand and you open a garbage one. The same applies for literally any other deck.
And then people think, oh Aggro only goes face, so that's just dumb. Well no, they don't. It only feels that way because you never put down a board to trade into, or otherwise the trades are so horribly inefficient that it makes no sense to.
So yeah, no deck is harder to play than any other deck, now let's all enjoy this horrible children's card game.
It is? Do you play control, ever? Making an incorrect decision with a control deck can cost you the entire game. Making an incorrect decision with an aggro deck means your 2/3 dies and you deliver lethal one turn later.
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We all know that aggro vs control is brainless, from both sides. It's aggro vs aggro and control vs control that are skilled. There's nothing to debate about.
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People who refuses to play aggro out of principle are even worse than people who play exclusively aggro.
One should seek to become a complete player and play all archetypes, including ones that he despises for whatever irrational reasons.
That depends on the deck you play, Miracle Rogue for example is a lot harder to play than Face Shaman.
Why is Miracle Rogue so much harder than Face Shaman, because when you're playing you can make 50 different plays of which 5 are good, only those who can get to high legend rank know which is the best play and why. Face Shaman can only make like 10 different plays each turn, and you know 8 of them are bad, so you have to choose between the last 2 options.
Just stop being salty that you lost to a Control Deck which had the perfect answer to your Face deck.
That depends on the deck you play, Miracle Rogue for example is a lot harder to play than Face Shaman.
Why is Miracle Rogue so much harder than Face Shaman, because when you're playing you can make 50 different plays of which 5 are good, only those who can get to high legend rank know which is the best play and why. Face Shaman can only make like 10 different plays each turn, and you know 8 of them are bad, so you have to choose between the last 2 options.
Just stop being salty that you lost to a Control Deck which had the perfect answer to your Face deck.
Control vs aggro is 'dumb' from both sides, i can see that, but control is not dumb by itself, I have played control vs control a lot and i can secure you that the number of mistakes that the average player does is disgusting, just because they are so used to not need to think while playing that they give me a free win usually, also aggro isnt punished that hard by their mistakes as control, so it reward the player to play bad (yes, ther is a lot of room od improvment in aggro decks, every good aggro player should notice in low ranks many mistakes).
In short, control is not skilled nor aggro, there is muth up where the skill matters more than other.
It is? Do you play control, ever? Making an incorrect decision with a control deck can cost you the entire game. Making an incorrect decision with an aggro deck means your 2/3 dies and you deliver lethal one turn later.
That depends on the deck you play, Miracle Rogue for example is a lot harder to play than Face Shaman.
Why is Miracle Rogue so much harder than Face Shaman, because when you're playing you can make 50 different plays of which 5 are good, only those who can get to high legend rank know which is the best play and why. Face Shaman can only make like 10 different plays each turn, and you know 8 of them are bad, so you have to choose between the last 2 options.
Just stop being salty that you lost to a Control Deck which had the perfect answer to your Face deck.
Miracle Rogue is not a Control deck.
That's true, but Miracle was just an example, and TheWamts said no deck is harder than another, but as i said Miracle Rogue is definitely harder than Face shaman. A Control Warrior list is easier to play than Miracle Rogue, but you still have more options than when you play Face Shaman.
control is much harder in my opinion that playing aggro.
Aggro: "i have a hand full of small minions that do alot of damage, lets throw everything onto the board and rush face and hope not to be punished. if i run out of cards i can either tap if i am a warlock or i loose the game"
control: "i need to make the best decisions for each turn, based on my opponent. i need to make sure i have card draw, while controlling the board and making sure i stay alive, any wrong move can be game deciding, so i better make sure i keep alive till late game and stay focus"
And i dont think you understand.....control plays on what to do at each turn, where aggro just tries to kill you as fast as possible. if you put minions down, most likely aggro will not trade or clean up, unless it is taunt. aggro wants you to make the trades mostly as they want to make you waste your turns cleaning their boards. simply saying "i will put down this 4/5 to counter their board of different minions" does not mean they will trade, it means they will still go face unless the 4/5 is threatening lethal or has taunt. summary, control putting down minions to counter aggro does not always work and saying aggro only goes face is "dumb" is not really representative, to all hearthstone players. when i put down minion to counter zoolock, the zoolock rushes me faster, so simply it is not always the best thing for control to do.
summary i think control require more strategy due to one wrong move could ruin the game for a control deck, where one wrong move for an aggro deck could be recovered from a topdeck or a good draw.
im not saying aggro is easy to play, but still control i find personally more difficult and requires more knowledge or skipping turns and making more difficult decisions.
And i dont think you understand.....control plays on what to do at each turn, where aggro just tries to kill you as fast as possible.
Not if you are playing against another aggro deck. You are describing control vs control and comparing it with aggro vs control. Of course aggro vs control will seem brainless. If I compare aggro vs aggro to aggro vs control, then control is brainless. When an aggro deck plays another aggro deck, there are lots of decisions to make, but when a control deck play against an aggro deck, it's draw answers or lose. In that light, control is less skillful compared to aggro when pitted against an aggro deck.
Watch or play against a skilled aggro player once in a while. I got fucked on by one the other day and seeing how thought out the plays were and how well lethal was planned out and executed was something else. Haven't seen anything comparable from any control player.
That depends on the deck you play, Miracle Rogue for example is a lot harder to play than Face Shaman.
Why is Miracle Rogue so much harder than Face Shaman, because when you're playing you can make 50 different plays of which 5 are good, only those who can get to high legend rank know which is the best play and why. Face Shaman can only make like 10 different plays each turn, and you know 8 of them are bad, so you have to choose between the last 2 options.
Just stop being salty that you lost to a Control Deck which had the perfect answer to your Face deck.
Miracle Rogue is not a Control deck.
That's true, but Miracle was just an example, and TheWamts said no deck is harder than another, but as i said Miracle Rogue is definitely harder than Face shaman. A Control Warrior list is easier to play than Miracle Rogue, but you still have more options than when you play Face Shaman.
And no such deck as Face Shaman, you mean Aggro Shaman. And Control Warrior is no more basically, as C'Thun Warrior is overall better and took CW place in the ladder.
Whole discussion about what easier is pointless basically, to play well with any kind of deck you have to make correct decisions. The nature of that decisions are different, so it's difficult to compare and subjective at most.
Control plays as linearly as aggro. While you have to worry about is clearing a board, aggro worries about their board getting cleared. And guessing what board clears are in your hand is a lot harder than looking at the board and counting the health of enemy minions.
And you'll say oh, but Aggro can win just by dropping a perfect early curve if I have no answers. Right, you'll lose if they open a good hand and you open a garbage one. The same applies for literally any other deck.
And then people think, oh Aggro only goes face, so that's just dumb. Well no, they don't. It only feels that way because you never put down a board to trade into, or otherwise the trades are so horribly inefficient that it makes no sense to.
So yeah, no deck is harder to play than any other deck, now let's all enjoy this horrible children's card game.
That depends on the deck you play, Miracle Rogue for example is a lot harder to play than Face Shaman.
Why is Miracle Rogue so much harder than Face Shaman, because when you're playing you can make 50 different plays of which 5 are good, only those who can get to high legend rank know which is the best play and why. Face Shaman can only make like 10 different plays each turn, and you know 8 of them are bad, so you have to choose between the last 2 options.
Just stop being salty that you lost to a Control Deck which had the perfect answer to your Face deck.
Miracle Rogue is not a Control deck.
That's true, but Miracle was just an example, and TheWamts said no deck is harder than another, but as i said Miracle Rogue is definitely harder than Face shaman. A Control Warrior list is easier to play than Miracle Rogue, but you still have more options than when you play Face Shaman.
And no such deck as Face Shaman, you mean Aggro Shaman. And Control Warrior is no more basically, as C'Thun Warrior is overall better and took CW place in the ladder.
Whole discussion about what easier is pointless basically, to play well with any kind of deck you have to make correct decisions. The nature of that decisions are different, so it's difficult to compare and subjective at most.
Aggro Shaman then, if you really want to. And Control Warrior still exists, it might not be top tier anymore, but it definitely still exists.
Yes, you have to make decisions with any kind of deck, but I was just saying that making the right decision is harder with some decks than with other decks and took Miracle Rogue, Control Warrior and Aggro Shaman as examples.
If you can get legend with a deck, you can get it with any top tier deck, that's basically what you say. and can you? I saw you can get to rank 4 with Aggro Shaman, can you do that too with ALL other top tier decks too? I needed less than 50 wins to get to rank 1 from rank 5 with Aggro Shaman, with Patron Warrior it took me over 150, with all other decks I tried I couldn't do it.
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Control plays as linearly as aggro. While you have to worry about is clearing a board, aggro worries about their board getting cleared. And guessing what board clears are in your hand is a lot harder than looking at the board and counting the health of enemy minions.
And you'll say oh, but Aggro can win just by dropping a perfect early curve if I have no answers. Right, you'll lose if they open a good hand and you open a garbage one. The same applies for literally any other deck.
And then people think, oh Aggro only goes face, so that's just dumb. Well no, they don't. It only feels that way because you never put down a board to trade into, or otherwise the trades are so horribly inefficient that it makes no sense to.
So yeah, no deck is harder to play than any other deck, now let's all enjoy this horrible children's card game.
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We all know that aggro vs control is brainless, from both sides. It's aggro vs aggro and control vs control that are skilled. There's nothing to debate about.
People who refuses to play aggro out of principle are even worse than people who play exclusively aggro.
One should seek to become a complete player and play all archetypes, including ones that he despises for whatever irrational reasons.
wtf are u saying?
Only one Control deck required high skill was Handlock. Modern control decks (read: C'Thun Warrior) are way easier imo.
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That depends on the deck you play, Miracle Rogue for example is a lot harder to play than Face Shaman.
Why is Miracle Rogue so much harder than Face Shaman, because when you're playing you can make 50 different plays of which 5 are good, only those who can get to high legend rank know which is the best play and why. Face Shaman can only make like 10 different plays each turn, and you know 8 of them are bad, so you have to choose between the last 2 options.
Just stop being salty that you lost to a Control Deck which had the perfect answer to your Face deck.
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People who refuses to play aggro out of principle are even worse than people who play exclusively aggro.
One should seek to become a complete player and play all archetypes, including ones that he despises for whatever irrational reasons.
Control vs aggro is 'dumb' from both sides, i can see that, but control is not dumb by itself, I have played control vs control a lot and i can secure you that the number of mistakes that the average player does is disgusting, just because they are so used to not need to think while playing that they give me a free win usually, also aggro isnt punished that hard by their mistakes as control, so it reward the player to play bad (yes, ther is a lot of room od improvment in aggro decks, every good aggro player should notice in low ranks many mistakes).
In short, control is not skilled nor aggro, there is muth up where the skill matters more than other.
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control is much harder in my opinion that playing aggro.
Aggro: "i have a hand full of small minions that do alot of damage, lets throw everything onto the board and rush face and hope not to be punished. if i run out of cards i can either tap if i am a warlock or i loose the game"
control: "i need to make the best decisions for each turn, based on my opponent. i need to make sure i have card draw, while controlling the board and making sure i stay alive, any wrong move can be game deciding, so i better make sure i keep alive till late game and stay focus"
And i dont think you understand.....control plays on what to do at each turn, where aggro just tries to kill you as fast as possible. if you put minions down, most likely aggro will not trade or clean up, unless it is taunt. aggro wants you to make the trades mostly as they want to make you waste your turns cleaning their boards. simply saying "i will put down this 4/5 to counter their board of different minions" does not mean they will trade, it means they will still go face unless the 4/5 is threatening lethal or has taunt. summary, control putting down minions to counter aggro does not always work and saying aggro only goes face is "dumb" is not really representative, to all hearthstone players. when i put down minion to counter zoolock, the zoolock rushes me faster, so simply it is not always the best thing for control to do.
summary i think control require more strategy due to one wrong move could ruin the game for a control deck, where one wrong move for an aggro deck could be recovered from a topdeck or a good draw.
im not saying aggro is easy to play, but still control i find personally more difficult and requires more knowledge or skipping turns and making more difficult decisions.
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People who refuses to play aggro out of principle are even worse than people who play exclusively aggro.
One should seek to become a complete player and play all archetypes, including ones that he despises for whatever irrational reasons.
Watch or play against a skilled aggro player once in a while. I got fucked on by one the other day and seeing how thought out the plays were and how well lethal was planned out and executed was something else. Haven't seen anything comparable from any control player.
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