Priest has always been a skill intensive class to play. If you aren't prepared to lose around 40% of your games right now then don't bother. You need to know your opponents deck better than he/she knows it and be ready for thier plays. You can't rely on massive armor turns to stall or your huge heal ups but you do have the utility in your deck to keep pace with these guys if you play smart. I've been messing around with an N'zoth dragon list that's a lot of fun and I'm getting at least a 70% win rate which I'm ok with. If I wanted to blast through the ranks I wouldn't be torturing myself playing priest. For me it's all about the challenge.
Yeah winning thanks to brain/skill is funny . Like you i play it for challenge my skill(but mostly for fatigue games haha ), after a month of only priest play i feel very confortable playng it , i always know what i have to do and what i need
Have played Priest since the beginning and have to say that N'Zoth Priest is one of the strongest control decks to come along. Have gotten up to Rank 6 using it so far this month.
Priest has always been a skill intensive class to play. If you aren't prepared to lose around 40% of your games right now then don't bother. You need to know your opponents deck better than he/she knows it and be ready for thier plays. You can't rely on massive armor turns to stall or your huge heal ups but you do have the utility in your deck to keep pace with these guys if you play smart. I've been messing around with an N'zoth dragon list that's a lot of fun and I'm getting at least a 70% win rate which I'm ok with. If I wanted to blast through the ranks I wouldn't be torturing myself playing priest. For me it's all about the challenge.
Yeah winning thanks to brain/skill is funny . Like you i play it for challenge my skill(but mostly for fatigue games haha ), after a month of only priest play i feel very confortable playng it , i always know what i have to do and what i need
I've played priest for the majority of my hearthstone experience and I agree the thrill of winning a game or even when you finally turn the tide on a game you've been behind since turn 1 is what makes priest most enjoyable. The gamble of how much damage do you take letting your opponent overcommit to a board clear or playing possum and convincing that warrior or paladin to throw down his win condition while you have entomb in your hand. These are the things that keep me playing even after being run down by that face hunter/shaman because I drew terribly
Blizzard is definitely coming to hearthpwn to read your whiny duplicative bullshit.
Nzoth priest is good against paladin, warrior and aggro shaman, which are the top 3 must common decks. I don't get it.
N'Zoth Priest is good against Paladin because he can steal Tirion but other than that, the Agro and Mid-Range decks eat Priest before he can even get a minion in play.
Then tech in Doomsayers to answer faster decks. Are you still running Northshire Cleric? Decent number of pros have removed the 1 drop because it's too situational against a meta with 3 or more power.
Naw I gave up on Northshire Cleric early on. So many responses to the contrary and I doubt if anyone looked at the tournament decks that I posted. Not one Pro-player is playing a Priest deck in competition. I'm not arguing that you'll go 0-100 playing Priest, but it's long term simply not competitive.
Bringing up tournament lists proves very little. The tournament meta is different from ladder, varying even based on the individual tournament format. It's like complaining that a deck that works at Legend rank doesn't do well at rank 15 - very different metagames. It's almost as short-sighted as thinking that just because YOU'RE having trouble with a deck, EVERYONE is having trouble with the same deck. (ahem.)
I would love to have somoene on the NA server show me that priest is competitive n standard. I have never in my 4 to 5 months of playing priest acheived more than 48% wr with it.
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9 classes. Yeah, only one of them doesn't have a tier 1 or tier 2 deck. It isn't priest. It is druid.
However I agree that in the history of the game Priest has gotten the short end of the stick. Shaman was so awful but is one of the best if not the best class atm. Paladin was so weak before GVG, then it became one of the strongest.
People acting like tier 2 decks aren't competitive enough... I'd say any deck in tiers 1-3 of a given meta can reach legend reasonably, and more besides. I'm not sure what really defines competitive other than that if you're not playing in tournaments. And I know it's been mentioned already, but I find it funny that you're complaining that Priest's top deck is 8th in the snapshot while Mage's top deck is 9th, Hunter's 10th, and Druid's a lowly 17th. Funnily enough, I'd argue all of them still compete fine, even though some classes are more disadvantaged now.
I will say though that I'm waiting for Priest's real day in the sun to come. Dragon Priest was like a week long renaissance, but I'd like to see something more sustained in the future, if only to match the love other classes have received. I felt the same way about Shaman, which is why I'm not terribly bothered losing to it these days. Just part of the cycle.
Priest regularly gets crapped on. I don't think that's up for debate. However, if we're talking in terms of balance, there are literally so many variables that come in to play-BEFORE WE EVEN GET TO RNG in actual PLAY-that it's preposterous to assume it's the classes fault for being weak.
A skilled pilot with a bad list can still possibly perform at an acceptable level. A terrible player with an auto-pilot list can still crash and burn. Regardless of what decks define the meta, the meta changes on the daily-at least, for me it seems it does. It a gross generalization to assume even for a moment that one class is stronger/weaker than the other in anything more than a contextual, temporary measure.
Every time I match up against a priest with my N'Zoth Pally I contemplate putting a gun in my mouth. Actually, anything except aggro will give me that feeling.
Blizzard has done a pretty damn good job at making things balanced. It's impossible to have everything balanced. There's a lot more classes competitively than there used to be, and I am grateful for that.
Top 8 in EU and NA on the spring championship didn't have any priests. Someone published stats on the NA championship and priest had around 25% winrate IIRC, the worst of all classes. Priest does need better cards to be competitive, just because you personally don't like playing against priest doesn't mean having only one decent deck in a class (that, like I said, it's decent but not competitive) it's acceptable.
Top 8 in EU and NA on the spring championship didn't have any priests. Someone published stats on the NA championship and priest had around 25% winrate IIRC, the worst of all classes. Priest does need better cards to be competitive, just because you personally don't like playing against priest doesn't mean having only one decent deck in a class (that, like I said, it's decent but not competitive) it's acceptable.
Top 8 in EU and NA on the spring championship didn't have any priests. Someone published stats on the NA championship and priest had around 25% winrate IIRC, the worst of all classes. Priest does need better cards to be competitive, just because you personally don't like playing against priest doesn't mean having only one decent deck in a class (that, like I said, it's decent but not competitive) it's acceptable.
Fair but i think n'zoth priest is quite effective on the ladder possibly more so than in the tournament format.
Have played Priest since the beginning and have to say that N'Zoth Priest is one of the strongest control decks to come along. Have gotten up to Rank 6 using it so far this month.
well tempo dragon priest is competitive
I would love to have somoene on the NA server show me that priest is competitive n standard. I have never in my 4 to 5 months of playing priest acheived more than 48% wr with it.
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using your logic hunter needs to be reworked or taken out of the game too
Priest has the removal
Druid has the minions
You fuse them together and you get a loatheful abomination that should ever exist
9 classes. Yeah, only one of them doesn't have a tier 1 or tier 2 deck. It isn't priest. It is druid.
However I agree that in the history of the game Priest has gotten the short end of the stick. Shaman was so awful but is one of the best if not the best class atm. Paladin was so weak before GVG, then it became one of the strongest.
People acting like tier 2 decks aren't competitive enough... I'd say any deck in tiers 1-3 of a given meta can reach legend reasonably, and more besides. I'm not sure what really defines competitive other than that if you're not playing in tournaments. And I know it's been mentioned already, but I find it funny that you're complaining that Priest's top deck is 8th in the snapshot while Mage's top deck is 9th, Hunter's 10th, and Druid's a lowly 17th. Funnily enough, I'd argue all of them still compete fine, even though some classes are more disadvantaged now.
I will say though that I'm waiting for Priest's real day in the sun to come. Dragon Priest was like a week long renaissance, but I'd like to see something more sustained in the future, if only to match the love other classes have received. I felt the same way about Shaman, which is why I'm not terribly bothered losing to it these days. Just part of the cycle.
Priest regularly gets crapped on. I don't think that's up for debate. However, if we're talking in terms of balance, there are literally so many variables that come in to play-BEFORE WE EVEN GET TO RNG in actual PLAY-that it's preposterous to assume it's the classes fault for being weak.
A skilled pilot with a bad list can still possibly perform at an acceptable level. A terrible player with an auto-pilot list can still crash and burn. Regardless of what decks define the meta, the meta changes on the daily-at least, for me it seems it does. It a gross generalization to assume even for a moment that one class is stronger/weaker than the other in anything more than a contextual, temporary measure.
Tl;DR: OP try again.
Every time I match up against a priest with my N'Zoth Pally I contemplate putting a gun in my mouth. Actually, anything except aggro will give me that feeling.
Blizzard has done a pretty damn good job at making things balanced. It's impossible to have everything balanced. There's a lot more classes competitively than there used to be, and I am grateful for that.
Top 8 in EU and NA on the spring championship didn't have any priests. Someone published stats on the NA championship and priest had around 25% winrate IIRC, the worst of all classes. Priest does need better cards to be competitive, just because you personally don't like playing against priest doesn't mean having only one decent deck in a class (that, like I said, it's decent but not competitive) it's acceptable.
Priest got some good cards this expansion, the problem is they lost some amazing ones. Velen's chosen, Dark Cultist, Lightbomb, Voljin.
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