The tournament will be starting at 5pm(EST) on Saturday the 15th of June and you will be able to follow the stream on http://www.twitch.tv/ezm0d
BEFORE SIGNING-UP PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING:
Prerequisite: 1.) Be a registered user of the Cockatrice emulator 2.) Have/and are using the TS 3 channel 3.) Have a competent level of understanding of both the rules of Hearthstone AND be familiar with using Cockatrice 4.) Have the most recent version of the Hearthstone port for Cockatrice
General Rules: 1.) Players will be in private room in TS 2.) Attitude and sportsmanship will be expected otherwise penalties will apply 3.) No information is to be leaked to competing players till after match 4.) Spectating is encouraged for all players at any stage of the tourney 5.) Abide by the "Honour system"
In-Game Rules: 1.) Deck size is 30 2.) HP for both players starts at 30 3.) No Coin (2nd turn player only gets card advantage) 4.) Follow all approved community based rulings and blue posts from official forums 5.) All controversial rulings are to be resolved using logic and general consensus 6.) Sideboard used only for tokens/minions required for specific spells 7.) Each player must run the same deck the entire Tourney 8.) Once you passed your turn, there is no turning back unless specific/mandatory effects have not been respected. Ie: taunt/secrets etc...( You may only go back to your previous turn ). Subsequently the previously mentioned effects will be ignored/discarded 9.) When random effects occur, lay the cards in question on the board. Ie:Mindgames, Bane of Doom etc...
Bans: 1.) Adrenaline Rush 2.) Arcane Blast 3.) Nozdormu 4.) Secretkeeper 5.) Mana Spring Totem
Brackets: 1.) Seeding will be randomised 2.) Tourneys will be run as Double Elimination best of 1 3.) Grand final will be best of 3
Winnings: 1.) Bragging rights 2.) Seed advantage (coming soon)
Helpful Tips: 1.) Have all tokens/minions required for Hero powers/spells/abilities etc prepared in either sideboard or deck 2.) Study up on recent blue posts and rulings (http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/forum/9252662/)
Noxious already answered those questions in the official forums thread:
Adrenaline Rush doesn't exist anymore as far as the WoWhead's list mentions. They have 26 cards where they should have 25, and Adrenaline Rush doesn,t show up on the more "up-to-date" WoWhead card list.
Mind Control Tech is "drastically changed", therefore playing with it is borderline useless.
Arcane Blast doesn't exist either; an equivalent card named Shiv was given to Rogues, probably to make up for the loss of Adrenaline Rush.
Nozdormu is impractical, so that makes sense.
Thoughtsteal is interpreted by most people as a "Choose 2 cards manually", whereas common sense dictates it's OBVIOUSLY a random effect.
The infinite loop combo seems a bit of a stretch to ban, but I guess we need some info on Blizzard's side about their intent regarding this.
there were really god explanations to why thought steal is random on the thread I've made can't we just say random and use it or is it removed because it also takes too long to sort out?
here's quotes from somepll on the official forums in responce to my thread:
"Blues have said before they do not want players looking through their or the other players decks, because that takes to much time it's meant to be a quick game and those mechanics slow it down."
"Blizzard would not want someone taking time to go through 22 or 23 cards to find the ones they want."
the only counter to that logic is:
"every other random effect stats "Random". Thoughtsteal does not."
but I think blizzard would not make it chosen to not slow the game. And they did say that they were gonna clarify the tooltip for thoughtsteal so I'm assuming it will state random
wohoo! :D now I can have thoughtsteal in my deck :D I feel like I should say sth inspirational about what happens if you put your mind on sth but who cares I got what I wanted :D
Thank you for your feedback everyone! We appreciate you all taking the time to point this rather lethal combo out to us. We want to make sure games of Hearthstone are fun and engaging for all. Since we're even still pre-beta, we're always making changes to make sure everything feels just right.
We've removed Mana Spring Totem. Don't worry, Shamans; the spirits tell me there are good things to come.
Currently testing thoughtsteal....fun but am not sure it has the consistency im looking for
Very well then keep us informed on if it will be banned or not
Oh sorry for not being clear, thoughtsteal will not get banned. I was simply talking about my own deck and if I was looking at using it for my own self 8)
Well now we have new cards and changes to old ones :D
Vaporize now triggers when an enemy minion attacks your hero.
Illidan Stormrage redesigned—you may want to grab some fire resistance gear for this change. For 6 mana, Illidan is a 7/7 minion that has the ability: “Whenever you use your Hero Power, summon two 2/1 Flames of Azzinoth.”
Onyxia has a new power: “Battlecry: Summon 1/1 Whelps until your side of the battlefield is full.” Many whelps! Handle it!
Mind Vision now costs 1 mana and copies a card from your opponent’s hand.
Mind Control Tech has lost his mind and has built a new, more polished one. His new power reads: “Battlecry: If your opponent has 4 or more minions, gain control of one at random.
Welcome to ManaGrind's "friendly" tournament !
The tournament will be starting at 5pm(EST) on Saturday the 15th of June and you will be able to follow the stream on http://www.twitch.tv/ezm0d
BEFORE SIGNING-UP PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING:
Prerequisite:
1.) Be a registered user of the Cockatrice emulator
2.) Have/and are using the TS 3 channel
3.) Have a competent level of understanding of both the rules of Hearthstone AND be familiar with using Cockatrice
4.) Have the most recent version of the Hearthstone port for Cockatrice
General Rules:
1.) Players will be in private room in TS
2.) Attitude and sportsmanship will be expected otherwise penalties will apply
3.) No information is to be leaked to competing players till after match
4.) Spectating is encouraged for all players at any stage of the tourney
5.) Abide by the "Honour system"
In-Game Rules:
1.) Deck size is 30
2.) HP for both players starts at 30
3.) No Coin (2nd turn player only gets card advantage)
4.) Follow all approved community based rulings and blue posts from official forums
5.) All controversial rulings are to be resolved using logic and general consensus
6.) Sideboard used only for tokens/minions required for specific spells
7.) Each player must run the same deck the entire Tourney
8.) Once you passed your turn, there is no turning back unless specific/mandatory effects have not been respected. Ie: taunt/secrets etc...( You may only go back to your previous turn ). Subsequently the previously mentioned effects will be ignored/discarded
9.) When random effects occur, lay the cards in question on the board. Ie:Mindgames, Bane of Doom etc...
Bans:
1.) Adrenaline Rush
2.) Arcane Blast
3.) Nozdormu
4.) Secretkeeper 5.) Mana Spring Totem
Brackets:
1.) Seeding will be randomised
2.) Tourneys will be run as Double Elimination best of 1
3.) Grand final will be best of 3
Winnings:
1.) Bragging rights
2.) Seed advantage (coming soon)
Helpful Tips:
1.) Have all tokens/minions required for Hero powers/spells/abilities etc prepared in either sideboard or deck
2.) Study up on recent blue posts and rulings (http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/forum/9252662/)
TO REGISTER PLEASE CLICK ON THE FOLLOWING LINK : http://challonge.com/tournaments/signup/GJNAsNlx2t
NEW/UPDATED CARDS WILL BE PLAYABLE : http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/blog/10210437/whats-cooking-in-the-hearth-6-13-2013
We would also like to thank http://www.goodbobbycalamari.com/ for making all of this possible!
To install Cockatrice and the Port to have the Hearthstone database please go to :
http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/forum/topic/8728553893#1
Cheers and see you there!
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Bans:
1.) Mind control Tech
2.) Adrenaline Rush
3.) Arcane Blast
4.) Nozdormu
5.) Infinite Knife Juggler/Panda Loop
6.) Thoughtsteal
I can sort of understand Nozdormu and MCT , but what about the others? Could you tell me why did you ban those?
According to Nox, Adrenaline Rush is no longer a card as it's been "replaced" by the introduction of Shiv (it would also be a 26th card for Rogue.)
Knife Juggler and Youthful Brewmaster combo is probably banned because no one is sure if it will actually work they way they assume it will.
I don't think Arcane Blast is even a card anymore. Looks like it was re-introduced as Shiv.
And I have no idea why they chose to ban Thoughtsteal.
Noxious already answered those questions in the official forums thread:
Adrenaline Rush doesn't exist anymore as far as the WoWhead's list mentions. They have 26 cards where they should have 25, and Adrenaline Rush doesn,t show up on the more "up-to-date" WoWhead card list.
Mind Control Tech is "drastically changed", therefore playing with it is borderline useless.
Arcane Blast doesn't exist either; an equivalent card named Shiv was given to Rogues, probably to make up for the loss of Adrenaline Rush.
Nozdormu is impractical, so that makes sense.
Thoughtsteal is interpreted by most people as a "Choose 2 cards manually", whereas common sense dictates it's OBVIOUSLY a random effect.
The infinite loop combo seems a bit of a stretch to ban, but I guess we need some info on Blizzard's side about their intent regarding this.
http://www.hearthpwn.com/managrind
Aw why thoughtsteal man that was my favorite card :D
I immidately made an urgent blue response request on the official forums hopefully we'll get one before the tournament :D
Let me change your mind
Also what arcane blast? do you mean arcane explosion? there is no arcane blast on cockatrice, hearthpwn or wowhead?
Let me change your mind
there were really god explanations to why thought steal is random on the thread I've made can't we just say random and use it or is it removed because it also takes too long to sort out?
Let me change your mind
I'm curious as to why you think it's obvious? It doesn't explicitly state random.
here's quotes from somepll on the official forums in responce to my thread:
"Blues have said before they do not want players looking through their or the other players decks, because that takes to much time it's meant to be a quick game and those mechanics slow it down."
"Blizzard would not want someone taking time to go through 22 or 23 cards to find the ones they want."
the only counter to that logic is:
"every other random effect stats "Random". Thoughtsteal does not."
but I think blizzard would not make it chosen to not slow the game. And they did say that they were gonna clarify the tooltip for thoughtsteal so I'm assuming it will state random
Let me change your mind
Edited OP
http://www.hearthpwn.com/managrind
wohoo! :D now I can have thoughtsteal in my deck :D I feel like I should say sth inspirational about what happens if you put your mind on sth but who cares I got what I wanted :D
Let me change your mind
Let me change your mind
Edited OP : Added Ban on Secretkeeper
http://www.hearthpwn.com/managrind
Edited OP: banned Mana Spring Totem
http://www.hearthpwn.com/managrind
Currently testing thoughtsteal....fun but am not sure it has the consistency im looking for
http://www.hearthpwn.com/managrind
Very well then keep us informed on if it will be banned or not
Let me change your mind
Oh sorry for not being clear, thoughtsteal will not get banned. I was simply talking about my own deck and if I was looking at using it for my own self 8)
http://www.hearthpwn.com/managrind
Oh ok :D I thought maybe you would ban it for impractical reasons and mindgames with it :D
Let me change your mind
Well now we have new cards and changes to old ones :D
Let me change your mind
Due to the most recent news the OP has been edited (here is the link: http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/blog/10210437/whats-cooking-in-the-hearth-6-13-2013 )
- Mind control Tech is now unbanned
http://www.hearthpwn.com/managrind