Very good article and insightful read.Bravo for the OP. Wanted to add though Ragnaros, Lightlord had won my Liadrin many games before almighty N'Zoth, the Corruptor even entered the board. So i think Ragnaros lightlord considering the meta may be at least an honorable mention.
Very good article and insightful read.Bravo for the OP. Wanted to add though Ragnaros, Lightlord had won my Liadrin many games before almighty N'Zoth, the Corruptor had not even entered the board. So i think Ragnaros lightlord considering the meta may be at least an honorable mention.
More than an honorable mention. Ragnaros, Lightlord deserves at least the 4th spot over Dark Arakkoa. Dude, It's got crazy stall synergy with forbidden healing (til' N'Zoth!), and it's yet another big body for Paladin in a post Big Game Hunter meta. I was surprised, but it most definitely turned out to be one of the top 5 cards in this expansion.
Xaril and Fandral should be swapped. Fandral is good on paper but doesn't really live up to the hype. People dismissed Xaril because of his stats but he is easily the best Rogue legendary and best class legendary of the expansion
Xaril and Fandral should be swapped. Fandral is good on paper but doesn't really live up to the hype. People dismissed Xaril because of his stats but he is easily the best Rogue legendary and best class legendary of the expansion
Thats arguable. For me the best is Ragnaros lightlord.Not for its stats or text but for its pseudo taunt- target dummy for that hard removals the blonde bastard draws. Of course Xaril is a lot of value but RNG factor greatly reduces its efficiency aspect for me.Rng is bad man.
I think I'm the only person alive who thinks Flamewreathed isn't that amazing. I get the whole 7/7 for 4 mana ridiculousness but it's negated by so many things.
While it's nice to see the class legendaries aren't largely a pile of stinking garbage again (no repeat of The Mistcaller/Anub'Arak debacle or gimmicky nonsense like Aviana/Eadric the Pure) I'd say this set is the final proof that Blizzard simply do not give a fuck. We thought we'd seen stupidly overpowered cards before (Dr. Balanced, Mysterious Challenger), but Flamewreathed Faceless is the kind of card that can only be dreamed up by a diseased mind. Either than, or a 12-year old Thrall fanboy who's pissed off about losing as shaman all the time.
While it's nice to see the class legendaries aren't largely a pile of stinking garbage again (no repeat of The Mistcaller/Anub'Arak debacle or gimmicky nonsense like Aviana/Eadric the Pure) I'd say this set is the final proof that Blizzard simply do not give a fuck. We thought we'd seen stupidly overpowered cards before (Dr. Balanced, Mysterious Challenger), but Flamewreathed Faceless is the kind of card that can only be dreamed up by a diseased mind. Either than, or a 12-year old Thrall fanboy who's pissed off about losing as shaman all the time.
Flamewreathed Faceless is totally cancerous! I auto concede to shaman who plays 2 copies of it.
I don't get how Cult Sorcerer got on the list. It was the first thing I removed from my Tempo C'Thun Mage deck. It doesn't really fit into any Mage decks I've seen and used.
Also, I have yet to see the Druid legendary used yet.
Ragnaros, Lightlord has been added to the honourable mentions! It will still not make the top 10 list though.
Since it's now a couple of days into the season and this list may have been made prematurely.
this card needs serious reconsideration. This card alone is making a slower type of paladin possible, it is top 10 material.
I promise you. You will play a game where you lose to this card.
while the analysis is good overall, there are weaker cards on the list. Especially 1 card which is a simple 3/2 which can't be played on curve and unlocks 0-2 mana crystals on average in a class that didn't play knife juggler before. how is this card better than knife juggler?
I disagree on the Cult Sorcerer and Darkshire Councilman here. Councilman only works in zoo and it doesn't even work that well because it's very dependent on other cards. Sorcerer is strong but definitely not above Xaril. Xaril is becoming an auto-include in rogue deks while Sorcer is still just on tempo. Might see changes soon though.
PS: Staghelm is so freaking awesome with Wisps of the Old Gods. And Wisps of the Old Gods with Soul of the Forest.
PPS: Speaking of high-value almost auto-include class-cards, Feral Rage, Shadow Strike, Ravagin Ghoul, Blood to Ichor, but definitely not Cult Sorcerer
I disagree on the Cult Sorcerer and Darkshire Councilman here. Councilman only works in zoo and it doesn't even work that well because it's very dependent on other cards. Sorcerer is strong but definitely not above Xaril. Xaril is becoming an auto-include in rogue deks while Sorcer is still just on tempo. Might see changes soon though.
PS: Staghelm is so freaking awesome with Wisps of the Old Gods. And Wisps of the Old Gods with Soul of the Forest.
Ahh. councilman only works in zoo, but it does work wonders in zoo, I'm not sure if anyone predicted that it would be this good
You can play rogue without xaril, you can play zoo without councilman.
it's a close call but councilman wins games on his own, xaril opens up combo possibilities.
Very good article and insightful read.Bravo for the OP.
Wanted to add though Ragnaros, Lightlord had won my Liadrin many games before almighty N'Zoth, the Corruptor even entered the board.
So i think Ragnaros lightlord considering the meta may be at least an honorable mention.
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Ragnaros, Lightlord has been added to the honourable mentions! It will still not make the top 10 list though.
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Xaril and Fandral should be swapped. Fandral is good on paper but doesn't really live up to the hype. People dismissed Xaril because of his stats but he is easily the best Rogue legendary and best class legendary of the expansion
Of course Xaril is a lot of value but RNG factor greatly reduces its efficiency aspect for me.Rng is bad man.
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I think I'm the only person alive who thinks Flamewreathed isn't that amazing. I get the whole 7/7 for 4 mana ridiculousness but it's negated by so many things.
While it's nice to see the class legendaries aren't largely a pile of stinking garbage again (no repeat of The Mistcaller/Anub'Arak debacle or gimmicky nonsense like Aviana/Eadric the Pure) I'd say this set is the final proof that Blizzard simply do not give a fuck. We thought we'd seen stupidly overpowered cards before (Dr. Balanced, Mysterious Challenger), but Flamewreathed Faceless is the kind of card that can only be dreamed up by a diseased mind. Either than, or a 12-year old Thrall fanboy who's pissed off about losing as shaman all the time.
how isnt Evolve here?
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Thank you very much for putting even more fuel into the Shaman hype train just when it was about to burn out.
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My mandibles which are capable of pressing down and tearing, my talons which are known to intercept and hold.
I don't get how Cult Sorcerer got on the list. It was the first thing I removed from my Tempo C'Thun Mage deck. It doesn't really fit into any Mage decks I've seen and used.
Also, I have yet to see the Druid legendary used yet.
Especially 1 card which is a simple 3/2 which can't be played on curve and unlocks 0-2 mana crystals on average in a class that didn't play knife juggler before. how is this card better than knife juggler?
I disagree on the Cult Sorcerer and Darkshire Councilman here. Councilman only works in zoo and it doesn't even work that well because it's very dependent on other cards. Sorcerer is strong but definitely not above Xaril. Xaril is becoming an auto-include in rogue deks while Sorcer is still just on tempo. Might see changes soon though.
PS: Staghelm is so freaking awesome with Wisps of the Old Gods. And Wisps of the Old Gods with Soul of the Forest.
PPS: Speaking of high-value almost auto-include class-cards, Feral Rage, Shadow Strike, Ravagin Ghoul, Blood to Ichor, but definitely not Cult Sorcerer
I'm not sure if anyone predicted that it would be this good
I think you meant when you said
"The Firebloom and the Bloodthistle are probably the best ones, one working as a Blessing of Might and the other as an Arcane Shot,"
in the paragraph about Xaril, you meant Briarthorn instead of Bloodthistle
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I mean maybe this is what ness said but when he says his options about flamewreathed faceless he says
"in all if not every Shaman deck in Standard."
which I'm pretty sure he meant "in most if not every"
maybe an error?
Why is Chogall in the honorable mentions? I have yet to see him be anything other than completely worthless.