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I think most people that are complaining about C'Thun, don't have enough C'Thun cards to make a good deck (f2p). 

While f2p will eventually get the cards needed... at the start this expansion definitely favors those you opened a lot of packs. Either with gold, prepurchase, or pack bundles.

I love my Secret C'Thun deck with Reno... but I also understand f2p frustrations, as these cards are kinda ridiculous.

Twin Emps into Tirion, what?!? Lmao.

Aggro, control, I think the real complaint is that people don't win every game.  Boo hoo.

is witched back to wild. way more fun than the old gods imo

WotOG Hasn't been out for a full day in EU yet but I'm really happy so far. People are just trying to shove all their new cards into decks so it's a bit of a fun mess on the ladder right now!

I know some people are saying that the new meta is stale already and I can honestly see their point. There's a ton of C'Thun decks around and it's not going to be very long before Shaman becomes public enemy number 1. But I'm happy because the game seems more balanced now. Yes, some games you lose by turn five because you draw like crap and your opponent has a dream start but in general the meta seems more competitive and most games feel like anyone has a chance of winning.

Also need to add that I think Blizzard did a great job on the nerfs. Some cards are more powerful than others, sure but there doesn't seem to be that level of ridiculousness anymore.

In any case, it's only been a day. Things will normalise once people find out which decks are the crotch stompers and which decks are the crotches.

The future of HS looks very bright indeed... 50 million registered players!

wow. people complain about everything.

 3 months ago "Stale meta... ooo new stuff coming out... in 3 months (crying/wah wah emote here)

1 month ago  "meta still stale and all these cards are either bad or OP" 

Day after expansion is out "Meta is stale.. all druid Cthun or aggro shaman"

how about play for a full month and let new decks and ideas settle before you complain about everything. -.-

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WotOG Hasn't been out for a full day in EU yet but I'm really happy so far. People are just trying to shove all their new cards into decks so it's a bit of a fun mess on the ladder right now!

I know some people are saying that the new meta is stale already and I can honestly see their point. There's a ton of C'Thun decks around and it's not going to be very long before Shaman becomes public enemy number 1. But I'm happy because the game seems more balanced now. Yes, some games you lose by turn five because you draw like crap and your opponent has a dream start but in general the meta seems more competitive and most games feel like anyone has a chance of winning.

Also need to add that I think Blizzard did a great job on the nerfs. Some cards are more powerful than others, sure but there doesn't seem to be that level of ridiculousness anymore.

In any case, it's only been a day. Things will normalise once people find out which decks are the crotch stompers and which decks are the crotches.

The future of HS looks very bright indeed... 50 million registered players!

I've only tried out Trump's C'thun Druid so far but it's been pretty amazing. In my second game I faced off against a C'thun Warrior; C'thun got executed but I brought him back with a Doomcaller that i teched in, and won the game from the second time I played him!

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People are still whining about aggro just like every other time new stuff comes out. The meta always adapts. In fact, notice the contradiction here, apparently everyone is bitching about the aggro shamans while the other half are saying Cthun decks are destroying. Literally the extremes of both aggro and control decks, so make up your mind!

 That's not a contradiction at all -- Control decks spawn aggro decks and aggro decks spawn control decks. The aggro shaman wants to win before control, well, controls, or before cthun vomits all over the board. Control wants to shut down the zerg so they can build up cthun. People SHOULD be whining about both. If they weren't, it would be "Cthun is too powerful, because I didn't get to play my cthun first!" Or "Aggro is too fast, I couldn't aggro faster!"

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WotOG Hasn't been out for a full day in EU yet but I'm really happy so far. People are just trying to shove all their new cards into decks so it's a bit of a fun mess on the ladder right now!

I know some people are saying that the new meta is stale already and I can honestly see their point. There's a ton of C'Thun decks around and it's not going to be very long before Shaman becomes public enemy number 1. But I'm happy because the game seems more balanced now. Yes, some games you lose by turn five because you draw like crap and your opponent has a dream start but in general the meta seems more competitive and most games feel like anyone has a chance of winning.

Also need to add that I think Blizzard did a great job on the nerfs. Some cards are more powerful than others, sure but there doesn't seem to be that level of ridiculousness anymore.

In any case, it's only been a day. Things will normalise once people find out which decks are the crotch stompers and which decks are the crotches.

The future of HS looks very bright indeed... 50 million registered players!

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I tested so far Midrange Hunter, Face Shaman, N'Zoth Rouge and C'Thun Druid. Druid was mediocre to be honest. Not shure how viable it really is. Midrange Hunter needs to Curve out/ take the board. N'Zoth Rouge and Zoo are so far the strongest Decks in my Testgames.

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I was super excited but that quickly turned to huge disappointment after a few matches. I face tons of decks that I have no chance of beating. I got virtually nothing good out of the free packs I got and being a relatively new f2p, I don't have enough dust or gold to have enough cards from the expansion to be able to build a deck with it. The decks I used to enjoy playing don't work agaist anything I meet in either mode now and Standard is a nightmare. 

I'll wait till the meta stabilizes a bit but right now it looks like I will be uninstalling the game soon because I can't play it anymore. 

I like how people are crying about Sham's 7/7 and the BGH nerf...when BGH still counters that card PERFECTLY.

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First impressions? Sure it was a few fun hours, but is that all? We're stuck with these cards for another 1/3 of a year? It somehow feels so empty and like you already know all cards.

I kinda like the new meta its a lit bil Slower and people are finally inovating in deck creations,that's awesome .
Of course C'thun is powerfull but i think u can handle it with the existent control cards.

I thinks shamans got buffed a little too much but the only C'thun decks I've encountered are C'thun Druids which my dragon pally stomps on. 

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6. Shaman's 4 mana 7/7 - simply OP. You either have a removal or it's a game over. Aren't you glad that bgh got nerfed?

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My first impression.. hmm, first one to play c'thun wins..

Shaman - seems strong and potentially has multiple build outlets

Warrior - control lost some steam from what I have seen. The C'Thun game doesnt seem to quit match Warrior's tactics and they are really just down tools for their control game. I have seen some interesting takes on a more aggressive warrior which I am hopeful takes off.

Priest - seems to be the best C'Thun build from what I have seen so far. In my mind they just have great removal and sustain.

Druid - I have no idea what these guys are doing right now. I have seen one C'Thun deck do decently but he hit really good ramp game and draw off Nourish on a good curve with I think a turn 8 14/14 C'Thun. Honestly I dont know if they are that consistant right now.

Hunter - Midrange seems to be doing well. Face hunter is nowhere in sight.

Pally - looks.... a little rough right now and might take some fine tuning to really find its place. I hear that aggro pally might still be good but I am finding it hard to replicate with regular results.

Rogue - I am hopeful but honestly I have not played against much rogue so far. I saw one C'Thun deck do decently against me an probably 4 other rogues that I just questioned what the class was doing right now.

Warloc - I thought Zoo was dead. I was proven wrong. I have no idea how any other loc builds are doing but Darkshire Councilman completely cought me by surprise in the one game I have played against zooloc.

Mage - It seems like there are good tools but most of what I have seen have been people branching only slightly from tempo or freeze mage. It sort of feels like people are oddly mixing the two decks together right now. I honestly dont know what to make of Mage right now.

Overall, I am seeing a lot of C'Thun decks right now. After C'Thun the thing I am seeing the most is Shaman decks.

I think most people that are complaining about C'Thun, don't have enough C'Thun cards to make a good deck (f2p). 

While f2p will eventually get the cards needed... at the start this expansion definitely favors those you opened a lot of packs. Either with gold, prepurchase, or pack bundles.

I love my Secret C'Thun deck with Reno... but I also understand f2p frustrations, as these cards are kinda ridiculous.

Twin Emps into Tirion, what?!? Lmao.

Your right, this is the correct answer... being F2P is always going to be behind the curve. And people dont like feeling like they dont have a chance.

Sure building a cheapish aggro deck isnt too difficult, but it wont always compete.

Secondly if someone just started in the last 6 months, theyre still probably missing an Adventure or 2, AND are still trying to build up theyre Classic set which is very important.

I feel the people that are enjoying it are people that have a near complete Classic Set, and both Adventures, important TGT cards (Pretty much "caught up" to the current expac), because they can build anything they want.

For example, Ive been playing for 2 years, have a near complete classic set, and i was able to just save gold/dust for months for just this expac, and now that I have most of the ones I want... Im starting to save for the next Adventure, and so on, and so on... once your caught up the game DOES get cheaper in a sense.

TLDR - The hardest part for new f2p players will be catching up. Classic will be a bitch to do now tho with arena awards being current expac only

This is why you MIGHT play Renounce Darkness. My packs gave me two, so I had to test it. Divine shields are from another steward of darkshire to the left of the field. My opponent played something just as I pressed print screen :S Turns out, the steward is really good with Possessed Villager and Imp Gang Boss.

I (barely) won the game. But I did win. RENOUNCE DARKNESS BETTER THAN C'THUN DRUID!!!!!!