I agree, it really disturbs me how freely people use the term. I've had 3 family members who suffered from cancer and one of them died from it. Saying it so freely is incredibly insensitive. I've never mentioned anything sooner because I didn't think I would find anyone else who would agree with me.
No, because it's just a word, words don't carry the weight of actions.
Actions offend me, words do not.
Words are carrying a lot of weight, sometimes more than actions. What are u talking about ?!?
Many times, actions are unleashed by words, and usually those actions are the bad ones. People get killed because of words.
This particular word can activate a very strong emotional distress to people like the OP, remembering them about a painful moment in their life.
Remember, words can kill, literally. Unfortunately this really happened. At the other end of this type of word-bullets were persons with depression or very fragile mental condition, and those words determined them to suicide.
I am waiting for the suicide note that reads "I read a mean post on hearthpwn". If you have depression so bad that literally a word can kill you then maybe you should go to therapy instead. Have you actually witnessed a suicide yet? Everyone will make up shit about why they killed themselves. The brother of one of my best friends killed himself when my friend was 17. Through out the next weeks I heard 15 different stories from 15 different people. Everyone has his own idea why he killed himself or what the trigger was. Nobody but himself knew it. Only the the person that kills himself knows why he does it.
Prohibiting freespeech on the slight off chance that maybe a mental unstable person might later maybe read this and maybe decide that he should fucking kill himself is fucking retarded. It is like locking up all humans in their houses so no one can break into another house and burgle shit.
God I wanna kill myself now, you fucking triggered me.
Vomiting anything that goes trough one's head is, in this odd times, confused with freedom of speech. Real freedom of speech is a virtue that comes with others virtues: responsibility, awareness, intelligence, wisdom, context relevance, empathy. Freedom of speech was earned with great sacrifices, we should not use it to justify our ignorance, lack of skills and virtues.
I hope you didn't kill yourself and still can participate to this wonderful exchange of ideas and arguments which, btw, is what freedom of speech is all about.
I agree, it really disturbs me how freely people use the term. I've had 3 family members who suffered from cancer and one of them died from it. Saying it so freely is incredibly insensitive. I've never mentioned anything sooner because I didn't think I would find anyone else who would agree with me.
The thing is that it's a slippery slope. What word should we stop using next, "died"? That should be as offensive, if not more so. Maybe we should start saying "The minion expired"? No, that's too close to "died"... "The minion is no longer present on the board"? No, that's offensive to people who didn't get gifts for their birthday during their childhood.
Do you see where I'm going with this? People can, and will mind you, get offended by pretty much anything. If we start banning the use of completely arbitrary words because some people find them offensive, then there's no end to it.
I'm not belittling your feelings, I can understand why you dislike seeing the word "cancer", as I dislike certain words. But unless offense is intended, none should be taken.
No, because it's just a word, words don't carry the weight of actions.
Actions offend me, words do not.
Words are carrying a lot of weight, sometimes more than actions. What are u talking about ?!?
Many times, actions are unleashed by words, and usually those actions are the bad ones. People get killed because of words.
This particular word can activate a very strong emotional distress to people like the OP, remembering them about a painful moment in their life.
Remember, words can kill, literally. Unfortunately this really happened. At the other end of this type of word-bullets were persons with depression or very fragile mental condition, and those words determined them to suicide.
It's the action/actions behind a word, not the word itself that hurts or causes offense. Words by themselves (in and of themselves) carry no weight. Words are just words, no more, no less.
Your second point is very weird, people get killed because of words. No, not quite, those words carry weight brought on by something to cause them to carry weight? can you figure out what this something might be?
Your other points are all the same and prompt an informal fallacy based on the original topic of argument. I am guessing your quite young? and this is why you have trouble understanding.
Hopefully you can grasp it now.
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When I looked up "Ninjas" in Thesaurus.com, it said "Ninja's can't be found" Well played Ninjas, well played.
I'm pretty sure a lot of people here would remember this Gold Saint from Saint Seiya:
I never heard someone being offended by the fact this guy is called Deathmask while his constelation is worded exactly the same as the well known disease (Cancer, of course), and at the same time, him being the most cruel of all Gold Saints. Is there someone here that was offended by him while watching this anime? That would be beyond silly...
I don't know if I'd use the word "offended" to describe my feelings.. but the instant the word "cancer" (or "AIDS", for that matter) slips out of your mouth to describe a deck or a card, I know you're some ignorant angry child with zero life experience.
I lost three of my four grandparents to different cancers, and if you think it's "cool" to call a deck cancer because you lost a game of cards, I have very little respect for you as a human being.
I'm really sorry for your loses, but you should be more careful when calling others ignorants, when you clearly don't know what are you talking about.
They can call it what they like. I don't find it particularly offensive.
I mean there's got to be a negative word to use as reference, and TBH I don't really like when people cuss or things like that either. So as far as words goes, they can pick what they want. I don't think there's really going to be any words that are much better or worse as far as i'm concerned.
would you say it out loud in a group of people that consists not just of your close HS buddies?
with a group of strangers around you?
in the office, at the family table, in fornt of class?
Absolutely. Perhaps I would be discussing racism, maybe I would mention that Malcolm X referred to racism (in the 1960's) as an "incurable cancer".
To the point, the disease is not the only definition of the word cancer. It has simply been adopted by the Hearthstone community to describe a play style that is harmful to the meta, and seems to be spreading quickly. I.E., cancer.
does this mean horoscopes offend you? particularly the crab called cancer? like what other people have said, words carry weight but context is everything.
I had cancer (cured now) and half of my family (uncles, cousin, grandmother) had cancer or was killed by it. I don't find the use of the term offensive at all.
What get on my nerves is people blaming my cancer by what I eat or the fact I don't exercise enough (I stopped my martial arts because of the sickness, and I eat very healthy, my cancer is a genetic flaw), and after I explain that people blame my parents to having a kid knowing he "can die in a horrible way"
These people make me angry, you have no idea.
Here in a forum, I cannot know the life or culture or moral values of every single people posting, and I cannot impose my vision of what is right.
So I prefer to take every single post as a harmless comment, and if I disagree, maybe I reply pointing out my view, if I think someone post something because is a angry kid, or maybe a stupid person, I prefer to ignore or even block this person.
I not saying you suppose to tough up or something, I just saying this way of thinking is working very well for me.
Personally I think its offensive, and I would just not say the word or describe a deck with cancer. Why do you have to describe decks with a disease, couldn't you say I hate this deck because of ...? I find it unproffesional to talk about and express things in a way using these terms. If something is ruining the game then why play it? I mean the developers hate changing cards so what do you expect them to do besides release new cards and try to counter these decks. Hey once standard comes at least you only have to deal with those decks every year
Cancer in reference to a deck of cards is quite a jump for anyone to get offended over. It's not a nice term, but it is used in reference to a particular archetype of deck.
'Cancer' as a disease is fucking horrendous. It is a truly unpleasant disease that millions of people endure every day. 'Cancer' in reference to a type of deck that people play is an unpleasant term. 'Cancer' in relation to corruption, drugs, gangs, racism, homophobia etc. etc. is viewed as perfectly acceptable.
For the most part it is just juvenile fuckwits throwing around a term that makes them feel like a boss e.g rape. There is a lot more to get offended by in this world.
I agree with your point, but I feel the line has to be drawn somewhere. Death is a natural and eventual occurrence for everyone; cancer is not, and is almost always a source of terrible pain to the recipient and to their loved ones as they watch them suffer. I agree that some people will be offended no matter what, and you can take not-offending people too far, but I am against flippant use of deadly diseases.
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I agree, it really disturbs me how freely people use the term. I've had 3 family members who suffered from cancer and one of them died from it. Saying it so freely is incredibly insensitive. I've never mentioned anything sooner because I didn't think I would find anyone else who would agree with me.
If you can't handle words like cancer, get off the internet. Its too offensive for your oversensitive self.
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Personal opinion here:
Deciding to take offense to something is a personal choice.
The word Cancer has multiple definitions. Those definitions were created long before Hearthstone was a twinkle in Ben Brodes eye.
There is nothing offensive in using the word "cancer" regarding these decks, actually it gives very precise description on how they spread.
It became part of hearthstone slang as did "smorc", "huntard", "zoo" etc. etc. Some people having cancer have absolutely nothing to do with it.
Looks like somebody needs to crawl into their Safe Space for a few hours. The bad on the people on the internet said something offensive waaaaah.
3/4 of my grandparents died to cancer. And I am not offended.
When I looked up "Ninjas" in Thesaurus.com, it said "Ninja's can't be found" Well played Ninjas, well played.
I'm pretty sure a lot of people here would remember this Gold Saint from Saint Seiya:
I never heard someone being offended by the fact this guy is called Deathmask while his constelation is worded exactly the same as the well known disease (Cancer, of course), and at the same time, him being the most cruel of all Gold Saints. Is there someone here that was offended by him while watching this anime? That would be beyond silly...
They can call it what they like. I don't find it particularly offensive.
I mean there's got to be a negative word to use as reference, and TBH I don't really like when people cuss or things like that either. So as far as words goes, they can pick what they want. I don't think there's really going to be any words that are much better or worse as far as i'm concerned.
I agree but remember offense is taken not given.
If people want to sound unintelligent and ignorant by using such terms just let them.
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does this mean horoscopes offend you? particularly the crab called cancer? like what other people have said, words carry weight but context is everything.
Well , here my opinion.
I had cancer (cured now) and half of my family (uncles, cousin, grandmother) had cancer or was killed by it. I don't find the use of the term offensive at all.
What get on my nerves is people blaming my cancer by what I eat or the fact I don't exercise enough (I stopped my martial arts because of the sickness, and I eat very healthy, my cancer is a genetic flaw), and after I explain that people blame my parents to having a kid knowing he "can die in a horrible way"
These people make me angry, you have no idea.
Here in a forum, I cannot know the life or culture or moral values of every single people posting, and I cannot impose my vision of what is right.
So I prefer to take every single post as a harmless comment, and if I disagree, maybe I reply pointing out my view, if I think someone post something because is a angry kid, or maybe a stupid person, I prefer to ignore or even block this person.
I not saying you suppose to tough up or something, I just saying this way of thinking is working very well for me.
Sometimes i refrain from saying the term "natural causes" in public.
You never know who you might offend.
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Personally I think its offensive, and I would just not say the word or describe a deck with cancer. Why do you have to describe decks with a disease, couldn't you say I hate this deck because of ...? I find it unproffesional to talk about and express things in a way using these terms. If something is ruining the game then why play it? I mean the developers hate changing cards so what do you expect them to do besides release new cards and try to counter these decks. Hey once standard comes at least you only have to deal with those decks every year
Cancer in reference to a deck of cards is quite a jump for anyone to get offended over. It's not a nice term, but it is used in reference to a particular archetype of deck.
'Cancer' as a disease is fucking horrendous. It is a truly unpleasant disease that millions of people endure every day. 'Cancer' in reference to a type of deck that people play is an unpleasant term. 'Cancer' in relation to corruption, drugs, gangs, racism, homophobia etc. etc. is viewed as perfectly acceptable.
For the most part it is just juvenile fuckwits throwing around a term that makes them feel like a boss e.g rape. There is a lot more to get offended by in this world.
I agree with your point, but I feel the line has to be drawn somewhere. Death is a natural and eventual occurrence for everyone; cancer is not, and is almost always a source of terrible pain to the recipient and to their loved ones as they watch them suffer. I agree that some people will be offended no matter what, and you can take not-offending people too far, but I am against flippant use of deadly diseases.