what i was trying to say is censorship is never a good way to solve anything but i might have gotten to carried away since it truely is annoying to me how people exploite emoitions of others instead of manning up and understand they are the onces who shoud tread carefully since the world cannot adjust to your everyday emotions you have to adjust to the world
unless someone talks shit to you and puts it in your face.. that is not cool but on a forum like this or any similar i hardly find that to be the case
I don't know if I'd use the word "offended" to describe my feelings.. but the instant the word "cancer" (or "AIDS", for that matter) slips out of your mouth to describe a deck or a card, I know you're some ignorant angry child with zero life experience.
I lost three of my four grandparents to different cancers, and if you think it's "cool" to call a deck cancer because you lost a game of cards, I have very little respect for you as a human being.
I'm really sorry for your loses, but you should be more careful when calling others ignorants, when you clearly don't know what are you talking about.
I watched both my grandfathers, proud, strong, capable men who served in WW2, waste away and die of cancer. It doesn't offend me in the slightest. People need to grow up and stop looking for things to be offended by and deal with their grief and problems instead of projecting that out onto the rest of us.
Not only that, but as indicated above, that actually IS a proper usage of the word.
Ok, I understand OP because cancer is a very strong word (even when people aren't spefically talking about the disease), but I don't get why he has to insult others to make a point, specially one as delicate as this one.
I'm very sorry about your loss Op. Sometimes when children with no life experience speak they say things frivolously. I wish there was a way to tell them that there is a more effective and productive way to express themselves, if only they would listen. There is literally nothing you can do but ignore them- that or be forced to watch them pull there clown pants down in public over and over again. I think someone i generally disagree with (Nietzche) said it best when he said....
"He who fights with monsters should be careful lest he thereby become a monster.
And if thou gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will also gaze into thee."
Any HS deck is just a collection of 30 cards. What matters about it is the overall winrate, its performance in certain matchups, and its consistency. Maybe how much fun it is to play.
Calling any deck "cancer" and similar is just a codeword for "I'm an immature scrub, stop reading here because nothing smart will follow after this". If idiots would stop using "cancer" I'd waste more time reading their garbage. So please keep using it.
Well it is also a pitiful way of discrediting other decks/players. Oh blah blah is cancer and needs to be removed! I lost to this, it is cancer! Shut the hell up, and learn to play.
It isn't about offending those that have survived/battled the medical condition known as cancer, it is just a stupid form of name calling and playing the blame game.
I used to call it the flu. Then a lot of people start telling me off, saying thay they have friends who is sufferring from flu and it offends them when they hear the word.
Ok, I understand OP because cancer is a very strong word (even when people aren't spefically talking about the disease), but I don't get why he has to insult others to make a point, specially one as delicate as this one.
Understanding random words hurting people is even a bigger issue than these words actually hurting people, if you pretend to understand this kind of people they start to think that their cause is somehow justified, eventually more people get the idea that they should live their life by watching out what they say or do, creating a taboo around the act, suddenly someone who is elected to govern hops on the train and thinks the majority actually thinks this way, BOOM, suddenly we have cencorship and everyone's freedom is restricted, all because some dickwad hadnt learned what he should and what he shouldnt be concerned about.
Words cannot psyhically hurt others unless formed into sentences and used in deceit or stupidity(either of user or listener).
LMAO, I can't stop laughing. OMG, I have so much power, I'm the most influential person on the planet!!!. Damn, why I didn't realised this before? I suppose it is time to reshape this world to my will... LOL.
No, because it's just a word, words don't carry the weight of actions.
Actions offend me, words do not.
Words are carrying a lot of weight, sometimes more than actions. What are u talking about ?!?
Many times, actions are unleashed by words, and usually those actions are the bad ones. People get killed because of words.
This particular word can activate a very strong emotional distress to people like the OP, remembering them about a painful moment in their life.
Remember, words can kill, literally. Unfortunately this really happened. At the other end of this type of word-bullets were persons with depression or very fragile mental condition, and those words determined them to suicide.
The thought police has come far in the past years. There are words that are mean and give me PTSD via the internet. And ofc now people try to ban stuff like that. If you speak something out, it is spoken and cant be changed. If it is written on the internet you only need to change an html file and the text changes. 1984 style. It is a disgrace that people now want to rewrite history and ban words from historic books. For example they want to change all the racist terms in Mark Twain's Tom Sawyer.
Through out history people always have mocked opposing worldviews (seldom over something so simple like a deck in a cardgame). The word millionaire was originally designed to mock the non-noble rich merchants. But instead of being offended Millionaire became the official term.
PC is the notion that someone's feelings are more important than basic human rights. PC is anti freedom of speech and anti equality (black people can still use the word "Nigga" without anyone getting offended where as anyone else is judged based on the color of their skin in that regard. I personally would not mind if black people would use an offensive word for whites, problem is that there is none. The only one I can think of paleface. Every other term is always bound by nationality.)
As long as someone does not directly threaten someone's live or tries to rally others for violence you can say what ever you want. It is bad enough that Anita sarkeesian was actually allowed to speak in front of the UN with her "Everyone that disagrees with me on twitter is committing harassment" speech.
Cancer is just a word. What do you think people will be calling Hunters after you banned it? Ebola? Ok let's ban all illnesses then. Retarded? Offensive for disabled people? Moronic (same as retarded, moron actually meant disabled person. Personally I see the term disabled becoming an insult). Faggot? Leave the queer out of this! Shit? Offensive to people with diarrhea. If you ban every offensive word you will run out of words soon. This is the point of an insult. It is supposed to upset people. People calling Hunters and Paladin Cancer want to express that they despise the deck. Nothing else.
I am personally offended by the word offended. Totally triggered cause I am a gun.
I agree with this. Freedom of speech is very important. This also remembers me that rumor about Disney wanting to remove slave Leia merchandising (from Star Wars, obviously) because a father was offended by it and his post went viral (this is not exactly related to freedom of speech, but you get the point). Slavery was terrible, but it is part of our history. Bad things from the past must always be present (even in a fictional movie set in a galaxy far, far away :P) to not forget about our errors. Pretending than this never happened just because one guy or some people are offended by it is beyond retarded. Of course, this is just Disney doing this, but I don't get why this company would do it... even if you try to understand this father reaction while thinking as a pussy (I can't find a better word to describe this guy :P), understanding someone doesn't mean that you agree with him, neither that you are going to do something to help him, so it seems that probably this company is also controlled by pussies... :P
No, I don't. Cancer is the name of one of the twelve astrological signs: Aries, Gemini, Leo, etc. The name was later given to the disease of cancer because reasons. One twelfth of the human population had a horrible disease named after them, and strangely, no one seemed to think that this was offensive or problematic, even though it is arguably worse because now a person who is asked what their sign is literally has to identify themselves as "cancer."
So there's that, but since this point might inspire some to suddenly change their mind about calling the disease "cancer" since it's too offensive, I'm just going to also say the word "homonyms" and leave it at that.
This kind of discussion always reminds me of Stephen Fry:
“It's now very common to hear people say, 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more... than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so fucking what."
Stop being offended by shit that doesn't matter. We should ban the use of arbitrary words because people feel offended just seeing them? No, because there's no end to it. There are words that I have negative associations to as well, that reminds of things I don't want to be reminded of, but I would never demand people stop using them.
IBTL
It doesn't offend me. It is callous, sure, but so is a lot of what you'll read on message boards, here and everywhere.
what i was trying to say is censorship is never a good way to solve anything but i might have gotten to carried away since it truely is annoying to me how people exploite emoitions of others instead of manning up and understand they are the onces who shoud tread carefully since the world cannot adjust to your everyday emotions you have to adjust to the world
unless someone talks shit to you and puts it in your face.. that is not cool but on a forum like this or any similar i hardly find that to be the case
I think that the use of the term "cancer" in relation to decks or cards is quite insensitive (similar to the use of the term ebola in that context)
An alternative that I would suggest would be using the word "epidemic" or you could say that the format is inundated with "brainless zombie" decks.
But I doubt anything like that would ever catch on.
Well played...
I watched both my grandfathers, proud, strong, capable men who served in WW2, waste away and die of cancer. It doesn't offend me in the slightest. People need to grow up and stop looking for things to be offended by and deal with their grief and problems instead of projecting that out onto the rest of us.
Not only that, but as indicated above, that actually IS a proper usage of the word.
Ok, I understand OP because cancer is a very strong word (even when people aren't spefically talking about the disease), but I don't get why he has to insult others to make a point, specially one as delicate as this one.
If not cancer, it would ebola, then anthrax, then flu, then aids.
Some people i knew had cancer, the disease, but i'm not offended by its use in HS. It's just stupid people who used those terms
I'm very sorry about your loss Op. Sometimes when children with no life experience speak they say things frivolously. I wish there was a way to tell them that there is a more effective and productive way to express themselves, if only they would listen. There is literally nothing you can do but ignore them- that or be forced to watch them pull there clown pants down in public over and over again. I think someone i generally disagree with (Nietzche) said it best when he said....
Any HS deck is just a collection of 30 cards. What matters about it is the overall winrate, its performance in certain matchups, and its consistency. Maybe how much fun it is to play.
Calling any deck "cancer" and similar is just a codeword for "I'm an immature scrub, stop reading here because nothing smart will follow after this". If idiots would stop using "cancer" I'd waste more time reading their garbage. So please keep using it.
I may not love you tomorrrow, but right now... i kinda do. (Person whos post is above this one)
Well it is also a pitiful way of discrediting other decks/players. Oh blah blah is cancer and needs to be removed! I lost to this, it is cancer! Shut the hell up, and learn to play.
It isn't about offending those that have survived/battled the medical condition known as cancer, it is just a stupid form of name calling and playing the blame game.
I used to call it the flu. Then a lot of people start telling me off, saying thay they have friends who is sufferring from flu and it offends them when they hear the word.
"Put your face in the light!" - Tirion Fordring
I'm always reminded of this
Careful you guys don't cut yourselves on that edge, Gents ;P
No, I don't. Cancer is the name of one of the twelve astrological signs: Aries, Gemini, Leo, etc. The name was later given to the disease of cancer because reasons. One twelfth of the human population had a horrible disease named after them, and strangely, no one seemed to think that this was offensive or problematic, even though it is arguably worse because now a person who is asked what their sign is literally has to identify themselves as "cancer."
So there's that, but since this point might inspire some to suddenly change their mind about calling the disease "cancer" since it's too offensive, I'm just going to also say the word "homonyms" and leave it at that.
This kind of discussion always reminds me of Stephen Fry:
“It's now very common to hear people say, 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more... than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so fucking what."
Stop being offended by shit that doesn't matter. We should ban the use of arbitrary words because people feel offended just seeing them? No, because there's no end to it. There are words that I have negative associations to as well, that reminds of things I don't want to be reminded of, but I would never demand people stop using them.