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Quote from Dekion1980 >>

Ok, well I'm not that bothered to be fair. I've invested a lot in cards and expansions but I've got my moneys worth in game time that's for sure. It'll be a shame not to be able to use a lot of my favourite cards in standard but I like the idea of building new decks based new limitations. 

Though I'm not sure how much fun std iwill be in the next expansion (2017) when they remove TGT, BRM and LoE. Surely the card pool will be extremely limited.  

 

Quote from dinamar >>

 

 If the balancing is on par with the current amount, your entire argument falls.. That's the point.. If you want to argue that the balancing should increase, i am all with you, but that was not the argument you were making..

 

Of you can or cannot pay real money for the cards, is an entirely different aspect. But i am getting the feeling that your much more occupied by being sarcastic than actually giving your arguments some thought. so... what's the point really?

Quote from Kurjak >>

Ben Brode himself said that balancing Wild Mode is going to be problematic. I think it's pretty clear that they're pushing all the players to play Standard, and Wild is going to be gradually abandoned. People who say "You can still play Wild, nothing will change" appearently didn't read any inteview with the developers in the last week.

Quote from Mugx >>

Am i the only one who's actually hyped about the updates?

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Quote from Kurjak >>

Ben Brode himself said that balancing Wild Mode is going to be problematic. I think it's pretty clear that they're pushing all the players to play Standard, and Wild is going to be gradually abandoned. People who say "You can still play Wild, nothing will change" appearently didn't read any inteview with the developers in the last week.

 So your suggestion is to have kept the current game mode forever and try to balance it when it clearly impossible?

Wild would be tons of fun after a few years, the decision to separate it it's a clear winner.

Hey mate lets do a comparison with another Card game that everyone knows: Magic the Gathering. 

How many players play standard in magic (that corresponds to Standard in HS)? 
How many players play T1 in magic (that should correspond to magnific WILD format in HS)? 

Well most of the players play standard because they cant afford T1 decks. And T1 is even a competitive format while WILD is not. 

You guys are now thinking about WILD with the expansions we already have. The thing is that in 3 years, and i'm being really optimistic here, if not sooner no one will be able to balance such a format with such a card pool. And they wont because they want you to play standard.

Anyone claiming the opposite can favorite my posts and check them in a year to see who was right :)

Have fun.   

Thing is, wild in Hearthstone will be cheaper than MTG T1. You do not need all GvG and Naxx Cards. You need at most 30 cards for a viable deck. And then you have a deck completely consisting of  wild cards. More likely that you don't need nearly that much. And the costs are fixed.

As to the balancing, I do not think it will be such a major Task. I expect the new cards will have generally lower power than Naxx and GvG cards. Of course there will be cards that can break the meta in wild, but then they will nerf one of the combo-cards down. Probably the one that is only available in wild mode. Edit:  And then you should get your dust back.

But yes, just favorite your own post and check it in a year who was right :)

If they wanted to keep those cards competitive explain me why they didn't do it now? Because they wont. Reprinting the card with a different name generates way more $$$ than allowing old cards to come back to the competitive.

If i'm a customer paying for a service, in this case a golden card that i was supposed to use as much as i wanted in a competitive scene, i expect that if you change what i paid for you give me the option to choose if i still want the service or not.  

Don't get me wrong i know is not going to happen, and i know blizzard's wont care if they lose some players for this kind of reasons.  

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Quote from EpicAsdu >>

 

 So if in the future, Blizzard changes the game modes again and those golden cards are now competitive, will you allow Blizzard to take back the dusts that you made from this "one-time-full-dust-DE"?

I don't exactly know what you mean with "competetively". Are you running for Blizzard Points? In all other respects, wild format will be giving you equal rewards and it will be competetive to beat other players. As I said, I can understand that people who crafted golden cards are angry, but I do not see any rightful claim they have for full dusting value. For me, standard is just a new mode on top of the hearthstone I already know.

And as to the reasons why they are going for a format, I posted my thoughts here.

Quote from GralQ >>

But I did not assume they would be around forever, I just assumed that whenever a change would make the card less or more playable I would receive full disenchat reimburse - That is what they did so far and what they promised to keep doing

So they didnt keep their word. To me it is a scam, and it really ruins the whole experience to the point that I am really eager to change to another game.  If only there was a game as good as hs...

Quote from Thandbar >>

I wonder if Blizzard will eventually balance Wild and Standard differently - like nerfing a new card in Wild because of a overpowered interaction with an older card, while leaving the card in its original state in Standard. 

Didn't they something similar in WoW with Arena to balance the differend playmodes against each other? 

Quote from dinamar >>

But that is just you asserting something without any basis.

Never did they state that wild mode would receive "no love" regarding balancing. They actually very specifically said it would be receiving balance changes.

Quote from MalakyEx >>

Quote from dinamar >>

But that is just you asserting something without any basis.

Never did they state that wild mode would receive "no love" regarding balancing. They actually very specifically said it would be receiving balance changes.

 We do actually, it's called history. As another user said: they couldn't balance ONE gamemode as it is now and had to resort to splitting it in two, what makes you think that they'll suddenly be able to balance BOTH Wild and Standard at the same time?

About what they "specifically said", they also said that they wouldn't invalidate people's cards because they didn't want people to feel their collections became "worthless", which is exactly what they're doing now that Mama Money demands it.

Wait til the reprints come.  Oh but your old version of card won't be usable.  I'm sure it will be defended by many of the blind naive tots here at that time as well.  

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Wait til the reprints come.  Oh but your old version of card won't be usable.  I'm sure it will be defended by many of the blind naive tots here at that time as well.  

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Quote from dinamar >>

But that is just you asserting something without any basis.

Never did they state that wild mode would receive "no love" regarding balancing. They actually very specifically said it would be receiving balance changes.

 We do actually, it's called history. As another user said: they couldn't balance ONE gamemode as it is now and had to resort to splitting it in two, what makes you think that they'll suddenly be able to balance BOTH Wild and Standard at the same time?

About what they "specifically said", they also said that they wouldn't invalidate people's cards because they didn't want people to feel their collections became "worthless", which is exactly what they're doing now that Mama Money demands it.

 But if they couldn't balance one playmode (in your opinion), then everything stays the same anyway if they simply not balance it further (in your opinion)? Nothing changes. And you get a new mode to play called standard. Which they probably will also not balance (in your opinion).

i think the best part is everybody that is complaining is still going to play the game.

way to stick it to the man!

Quote from MalakyEx >>

Quote from Horkinger >>

 But if they couldn't balance one playmode (in your opinion), then everything stays the same anyway if they simply not balance it further (in your opinion)? Nothing changes. And you get a new mode to play called standard. Which they probably will also not balance (in your opinion).

My opinion is that you're an idiot, rest are facts: they couldn't balance one game mode (hence the splitting to remove Dr.Boom, Shredder and Secret Pally), everything will NOT stay the same (one "Wild" unsupported format and one "Standard" cut-off one instead of Ranked which kept everything playable) and no, they will not balance Standard properly (they couldn't do it before, why should they magically be able to do it now?).

You forgot the option four, where they reverse powercreep indefinitely and nerf anything that seems remotely playable, so nothing ever becomes overpowered, while constantly changing the game up with balance changes.

So then we'll be playing a game with 10-drop 1/2's. That's fun.

One reason they can't is it would mean you should only buy GvG pack now.  Each pack would mean full dust for each card.  Any bad legendary would automatically mean a legendary card of your choice.