I read the new announcement made by Blizzard about the rotation today. While I totally can understand it (beeing a tcg veteran for over 20 years) I find it very hard that we are not allowed to disenchant our cards to full value. I do have golden Sludge Belchers, Kel, Webspinner, Mad Scientist, Loatheb, Duplicate, Voidcaller, Deathbite and probably more I can't remember.
This whole standard format was unannounced before. Usually, Blizzard allows a "full refund" on the dust invested when something changes. I basicly spend hundreds of Euros to get these cards golden. Yes, it was my decision, but it was made by the assumption (which was provided by blizzard) that I can play these cards in the decks I want. So I basicly bought booster packs to have enough dust for these cards to make em shiny. A mistake I will not make any more.
Adding a rotation will be very healthy for the game, but it will also result in the players moving forward to the standard format. New players don't need to worry about the old cards, meta will be fresh and more and more players will shift away from thge old sets. Especially as they can disenchant them for the new cards they need.
I humbly request a one time full dust disenchanting option. From now on, it will be clear, that the new expansion will rotate out. Otherwise I'm not sure if I can trust them any more, which will result in playing hearthstone full free. I know this probably still will be in their interest, but I hope it is not and they will show they community, that they will give in on this request. Many other players will feel the same.
Sincerely Maik
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It would be an even bigger mistake to dust all your GvG cards just because you can't use them in standard ladder.
(Which is exactly what Blizzard wants you to do, so you have to go back and re-craft a bunch of them if you ever want to play Wild ladder or Tournaments)
I see the current format devalueing gold cards in general. If you know your cards are only playable temporarily, you are less likely to craft a full golden deck. I already made a thread and suggested to make up the disechant value of cycled out golden cards - it didn't get much feedback though: www.hearthpwn.com/forums/hearthstone-general/general-discussion/103857
They surely won't do it. If they gave full dust disenchant nobody would buy more packs, just disenchant the cards from when a expansion goes away and put that dust into another one.
I see the current format devalueing gold cards in general. If you know your cards are only playable temporarily, you are less likely to craft a full golden deck. I already made a thread and suggested to make up the disechant value of cycled out golden cards - it didn't get much feedback though: www.hearthpwn.com/forums/hearthstone-general/general-discussion/103857
This isn't true.
You should know what I meant. Golden decks are a very rare sight and people who craft them are more than likely to take the game seriously and want to play competively. And Blizzard is actively pushing the competitve scene to Standard.
Also, I would like to have a 1 time only thing. After that we do know that a format like this exists. So my decision has all the information avalaible. This change is unheard of and while I agree that they only full refund on balance changes, this fits this category as well. They change how the game and the expansion system works dramatically!
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From a business perspective, as well as a moral perspective, it's perfectly fine. You decided to not play in Wild with your goldens, you decided to craft useless goldens in the first place, why would Blizzard have to pay for your dumb decisions ?
I have to agree. Golden cards have only aesthetic value. You can keep them for wild, and they won't lose value at all. Their main purpose, as golden cards, is kept, that is the aesthetic value.
No cards ever needed to be golden in the first place to be playable. Golden cards lose no value as they essentially aren't being nerfed. The base cards, on the other hand, might lose value since their main purpose is to be played. But then the value loss isn't nearly as big enough since non-golden cards are much easily craftable.
I see the current format devalueing gold cards in general. If you know your cards are only playable temporarily, you are less likely to craft a full golden deck. I already made a thread and suggested to make up the disechant value of cycled out golden cards - it didn't get much feedback though: www.hearthpwn.com/forums/hearthstone-general/general-discussion/103857
This isn't true.
You should know what I meant. Golden decks are a very rare sight and people who craft them are more than likely to take the game seriously and want to play competively. And Blizzard is actively pushing the competitve scene to Standard.
You can take the game seriously and want to play competitively, and still play in Wild mode. But you don't want to, for whatever silly reason based on your ego. You have no excuse.
I'll play Wild and I don't collect gold cards (have Antonidas though), but that's not relevant. Blizzard clearly stated that from now on, Standard will be their focus and Wild may or may not be balanced. The communities focus will shift towards Standard in the longterm and people will probably feel less inclined to craft gold decks... and this should be Blizzard's concern as well.
There are two types of people on this thread: those getting ripped off, and those who don't know they're getting ripped off. I've been playing, and getting other people to play, since the beta. But if we don't get a one-time full disenchant, I'll be doing neither in the future.
The people on the forums who say "WE WANT NEW FORMATS"
And then when it happened, thus giving them what they want: "OMG I FUCKING HATE YOU."
No, the whole consensus of this thread is that we all do enjoy and love the new format idea and all, it just happens to hit us hard. A one time full dust option (for golden only) would clear anything up. After that we have full information.
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From a business perspective, as well as a moral perspective, it's perfectly fine. You decided to not play in Wild with your goldens, you decided to craft useless goldens in the first place, why would Blizzard have to pay for your dumb decisions ?
Exactly.......ask yourself......why do players craft golden cards at all?
They play differently?
They make you a better player?
They give better RNG?
No...........
its Ego, period. end of discussion.
If you try to make any other claim to that.....you're full of @#$@!.
The people on the forums who say "WE WANT NEW FORMATS"
And then when it happened, thus giving them what they want: "OMG I FUCKING HATE YOU."
No, the whole consensus of this thread is that we all do enjoy and love the new format idea and all, it just happens to hit us hard. A one time full dust option (for golden only) would clear anything up. After that we have full information.
And you made the decision to craft the golden cards, which are worthless in the first place.
There are two types of people on this thread: those getting ripped off, and those who don't know they're getting ripped off. I've been playing, and getting other people to play, since the beta. But if we don't get a one-time full disenchant, I'll be doing neither in the future.
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Dear Blizzard,
I read the new announcement made by Blizzard about the rotation today. While I totally can understand it (beeing a tcg veteran for over 20 years) I find it very hard that we are not allowed to disenchant our cards to full value. I do have golden Sludge Belchers, Kel, Webspinner, Mad Scientist, Loatheb, Duplicate, Voidcaller, Deathbite and probably more I can't remember.
This whole standard format was unannounced before. Usually, Blizzard allows a "full refund" on the dust invested when something changes. I basicly spend hundreds of Euros to get these cards golden. Yes, it was my decision, but it was made by the assumption (which was provided by blizzard) that I can play these cards in the decks I want. So I basicly bought booster packs to have enough dust for these cards to make em shiny. A mistake I will not make any more.
Adding a rotation will be very healthy for the game, but it will also result in the players moving forward to the standard format. New players don't need to worry about the old cards, meta will be fresh and more and more players will shift away from thge old sets. Especially as they can disenchant them for the new cards they need.
I humbly request a one time full dust disenchanting option. From now on, it will be clear, that the new expansion will rotate out. Otherwise I'm not sure if I can trust them any more, which will result in playing hearthstone full free. I know this probably still will be in their interest, but I hope it is not and they will show they community, that they will give in on this request. Many other players will feel the same.
Sincerely
Maik
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They already got your money, so they don't care. But I feel you dude.
Greetings traveler.
It would be an even bigger mistake to dust all your GvG cards just because you can't use them in standard ladder.
(Which is exactly what Blizzard wants you to do, so you have to go back and re-craft a bunch of them if you ever want to play Wild ladder or Tournaments)
You make very good points. Hopefully someone with some influence in Blizzard reads this.
You'll be able to play those cards in Wild, so they won't give you full dust price for those cards.
Whether you take big hit or not is up to you and your decision about playing wild.
I see the current format devalueing gold cards in general. If you know your cards are only playable temporarily, you are less likely to craft a full golden deck. I already made a thread and suggested to make up the disechant value of cycled out golden cards - it didn't get much feedback though: www.hearthpwn.com/forums/hearthstone-general/general-discussion/103857
They surely won't do it. If they gave full dust disenchant nobody would buy more packs, just disenchant the cards from when a expansion goes away and put that dust into another one.
Also, I would like to have a 1 time only thing. After that we do know that a format like this exists. So my decision has all the information avalaible. This change is unheard of and while I agree that they only full refund on balance changes, this fits this category as well. They change how the game and the expansion system works dramatically!
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feels bad, man.
I started entertaining the idea of crafting golden cards. Not anymore!
No cards ever needed to be golden in the first place to be playable. Golden cards lose no value as they essentially aren't being nerfed. The base cards, on the other hand, might lose value since their main purpose is to be played. But then the value loss isn't nearly as big enough since non-golden cards are much easily craftable.
There are two types of people on this thread: those getting ripped off, and those who don't know they're getting ripped off. I've been playing, and getting other people to play, since the beta. But if we don't get a one-time full disenchant, I'll be doing neither in the future.
You know what annoys me?
The people on the forums who say "WE WANT NEW FORMATS"
And then when it happened, thus giving them what they want: "OMG I FUCKING HATE YOU."
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