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I can breathe air and drink water too. Your point being?

Way to trivialize a very real issue.

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To make this clear for everyone:
"Wild" will become the new casual mode and will evolve to full-retard-trololol-mode over time:

- Let's be honest: A lot of ppl play HS also for Epeen (me included). If standard is being propagated in official tournament and your profile shows only your standard rank, it is THE (ONLY) way to play the game.

- Cards are going to be developed, balanced and revisioned with STANDARD mode in mind. They might (and at a certain point in time: WILL) be completely broken, if used with cards from older/banned expansions. While Wild might be also fun right after standard format starts, it will become utter BS after 2 additional expansions, in which no designer kept cards like Boom and Shredder in mind anymore.

So instead of treating HS as the digital game it is and keep it fresh with constant balance patches and revisions, they decided to go for full cash grab and going to treat it like a PHYSICAL CARD GAME, which it is OBVIOUSLY NOT.
When we asked in the past for constant balance patches, they said: "NOOO! We can't do that! Players would be very sad, if their beloved cards in which they invested so much time and money, became worse!"
And now THEY REMOVE THEM FROM THE FREAKIN GAME.
And yeah, for me and a lot of other players, those cards will cease to exist. I haven't played a single match in casual mode for more than a year. So I will not play "Wild" in the future, esp. because it will be broken as sh1t.

This is even more infuriating, if you keep in mind that they released only 2 Adventures and 2 Expansions and already remove HALF of their additional content from the game,...

And guess what they will do? They'll sell us new Antique Healbots, new Sludge Belchers and at a certain point a new Dr. Boom. Esp. cards like Healbot are irreplaceable and HAVE to exist. So they'll just rerelease 'em with a new picture and a new name. And you have to buy new packs and more packs and more packs,...

Oh boy,...

i mean honestly whose fault is it that you decided to spend 600 euros on a game that you get no monetary value from? Also you DONT EVEN OWN the cards on your account. They are owned by Blizzard. If they give full refunds they will lose money. Blizzard <3s money.

i really dont see why anybody would spend so much on a f2p game where you cant sell your cards. I honestly dont think blizzard owes anybody anything, maybe you will learn from this.

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i mean honestly whose fault is it that you decided to spend 600 euros on a game that you get no monetary value from? Also you DONT EVEN OWN the cards on your account. They are owned by Blizzard. If they give full refunds they will lose money. Blizzard <3s money.

 

i really dont see why anybody would spend so much on a f2p game where you cant sell your cards. I honestly dont think blizzard owes anybody anything, maybe you will learn from this.

It would be more accurate to say that would have to go to a different part of itunes to listen to it and it may or may not be less popular.

It depends. The experience is completely different from before. The experience and balancing in Wild mode WILL change over time, probably by decreasing. In this analogy, it's hard to translate, but my enjoyment of listening to the song would decrease, hence the idea of only being able to listen to it by sitting in front of a desktop instead of, say, jogging or any other enjoyable activity.

But yeah, I see your point.

I really didn't get how people can be that dumb to say 'you can play wild with your shiny cards, it's the same as now' when it is obvious that wild won't be taken into account when it comes to balancing which is a big difference to now.

But then I realized there are people thinking Trump should become president and it suddenly made sense.

Tldr: There are two things which are infinite...

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I really didn't get how people can be that dumb to say 'you can play wild with your shiny cards, it's the same as now' when it is obvious that wild won't be taken into account when it comes to balancing which is a big difference to now.

But then I realized there are people thinking Trump should become president and it suddenly made sense.

Tide: There are two things which are infinite...

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I really didn't get how people can be that dumb to say 'you can play wild with your shiny cards, it's the same as now' when it is obvious that wild won't be taken into account when it comes to balancing which is a big difference to now.

But then I realized there are people thinking Trump should become president and it suddenly made sense.

Tide: There are two things which are infinite...

 It's not like there have been a ton of balance changes anyway, you act like they drop weekly balance patches. If anything they can afford to be a bit more heavy handed with Wild since it isn't their main focus for tournaments and what not.

I have 7k MTG cards from 3rd edition on up sitting behind in boxes as I type, you don't see me writing hate letters to WotC because I can't play with them any more. You know why? Because I can still play with them, I just don't.

Any preconceived notions people have about wasting their money or not being able to use their cards, is in their heads. 

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I really didn't get how people can be that dumb to say 'you can play wild with your shiny cards, it's the same as now' when it is obvious that wild won't be taken into account when it comes to balancing which is a big difference to now.

But then I realized there are people thinking Trump should become president and it suddenly made sense.

Tide: There are two things which are infinite...

 It's not like there have been a ton of balance changes anyway, you act like they drop weekly balance patches. If anything they can afford to be a bit more heavy handed with Wild since it isn't their main focus for tournaments and what not.

I have 7k MTG cards from 3rd edition on up sitting behind in boxes as I type, you don't see me writing hate letters to WotC because I can't play with them any more. You know why? Because I can still play with them, I just don't.

Any preconceived notions people have about wasting their money or not being able to use their cards, is in their heads. 

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I really didn't get how people can be that dumb to say 'you can play wild with your shiny cards, it's the same as now' when it is obvious that wild won't be taken into account when it comes to balancing which is a big difference to now.

But then I realized there are people thinking Trump should become president and it suddenly made sense.

Tide: There are two things which are infinite...

 It's not like there have been a ton of balance changes anyway, you act like they drop weekly balance patches. If anything they can afford to be a bit more heavy handed with Wild since it isn't their main focus for tournaments and what not.

I have 7k MTG cards from 3rd edition on up sitting behind in boxes as I type, you don't see me writing hate letters to WotC because I can't play with them any more. You know why? Because I can still play with them, I just don't.

Any preconceived notions people have about wasting their money or not being able to use their cards, is in their heads. 

 At least you can sell those MTG cards for money! Some even increase in value with time.

Another way to look at it, is since wild cheapens our golden collection, maybe golden cards should be cheaper in the first place. What the f is the point of collecting golden cards anymore ? It costs a bloody fortune, and it does not last more than a year, in the case of adventures. My prediction is, golden cards is going to become a lot more rare to see. And to me, that is sad. I enjoy the animated cards, and i like playing with them. I do not enjoy paying enough to support a small country to get them, and then having them only "last" a year.

For once, i think Blizzard SHOULD ABSOLUTELY take the road that doesnt generate the most cash to set things right by

a) Letting us disenchant ALL our golden cards for full dust value.
b) Letting us re-craft those goldens, for a significantly lower dust cost
c) Gain a lot of good will and retain customers who now percieve them less as a money grabbing scam.

People who has spent a shit ton of cash on this game, would then have a lot of excessive dust and could maintain a full golden collection for a few years or simply craft full expansions without spending a dime. But you know what, we payed for that dust.

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Another way to look at it, is since wild cheapens our golden collection, maybe golden cards should be cheaper in the first place. What the f is the point of collecting golden cards anymore ? It costs a bloody fortune, and it does not last more than a year, in the case of adventures. My prediction is, golden cards is going to become a lot more rare to see. And to me, that is sad. I enjoy the animated cards, and i like playing with them. I do not enjoy paying enough to support a small country to get them, and then having them only "last" a year.

For once, i think Blizzard SHOULD ABSOLUTELY take the road that doesnt generate the most cash to set things right by

a) Letting us disenchant ALL our golden cards for full dust value.
b) Letting us re-craft those goldens, for a significantly lower dust cost
c) Gain a lot of good will and retain customers who now percieve them less as a money grabbing scam.

People who has spent a shit ton of cash on this game, would then have a lot of excessive dust and could maintain a full golden collection for a few years or simply craft full expansions without spending a dime. But you know what, we payed for that dust.

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Another way to look at it, is since wild cheapens our golden collection, maybe golden cards should be cheaper in the first place. What the f is the point of collecting golden cards anymore ? It costs a bloody fortune, and it does not last more than a year, in the case of adventures. My prediction is, golden cards is going to become a lot more rare to see. And to me, that is sad. I enjoy the animated cards, and i like playing with them. I do not enjoy paying enough to support a small country to get them, and then having them only "last" a year.

For once, i think Blizzard SHOULD ABSOLUTELY take the road that doesnt generate the most cash to set things right by

a) Letting us disenchant ALL our golden cards for full dust value.
b) Letting us re-craft those goldens, for a significantly lower dust cost
c) Gain a lot of good will and retain customers who now percieve them less as a money grabbing scam.

People who has spent a shit ton of cash on this game, would then have a lot of excessive dust and could maintain a full golden collection for a few years or simply craft full expansions without spending a dime. But you know what, we payed for that dust.

 What was the point of collecting golden cards in the first place?

They don;t give a competitive advantage, you can't sell them, you can't trade them. They're there purely for 'shiney e-peen'.

The fault was yours for assigning 'value' to something which never had value in the first place outside your own head. The fact that some people saw it as a 'investment' is frankly deluded.

You spend money on your e-peen, and on a cosmetic, nothing more, nothing less, and it was money which was spend, not invested, not something which give you a return. Thats it.

I have spent/spend money on Hearthstone, becuase i have fun doing it, but I never nver for a second thing it's something which I'll get back, or anything other than fun.

 

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Another way to look at it, is since wild cheapens our golden collection, maybe golden cards should be cheaper in the first place. What the f is the point of collecting golden cards anymore ? It costs a bloody fortune, and it does not last more than a year, in the case of adventures. My prediction is, golden cards is going to become a lot more rare to see. And to me, that is sad. I enjoy the animated cards, and i like playing with them. I do not enjoy paying enough to support a small country to get them, and then having them only "last" a year.

For once, i think Blizzard SHOULD ABSOLUTELY take the road that doesnt generate the most cash to set things right by

a) Letting us disenchant ALL our golden cards for full dust value.
b) Letting us re-craft those goldens, for a significantly lower dust cost
c) Gain a lot of good will and retain customers who now percieve them less as a money grabbing scam.

People who has spent a shit ton of cash on this game, would then have a lot of excessive dust and could maintain a full golden collection for a few years or simply craft full expansions without spending a dime. But you know what, we payed for that dust.

 What was the point of collecting golden cards in the first place?

They don;t give a competitive advantage, you can't sell them, you can't trade them. They're there purely for 'shiney e-peen'.

The fault was yours for assigning 'value' to something which never had value in the first place outside your own head. The fact that some people saw it as a 'investment' is frankly deluded.

You spend money on your e-peen, and on a cosmetic, nothing more, nothing less, and it was money which was spend, not invested, not something which give you a return. Thats it.

I have spent/spend money on Hearthstone, becuase i have fun doing it, but I never nver for a second thing it's something which I'll get back, or anything other than fun.

 

 

And, i'll dare to say, your point of view is less important than that of those who have invested huge money into the game. You dont stand to lose anything either way. I, and many with me, do.

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Another way to look at it, is since wild cheapens our golden collection, maybe golden cards should be cheaper in the first place. What the f is the point of collecting golden cards anymore ? It costs a bloody fortune, and it does not last more than a year, in the case of adventures. My prediction is, golden cards is going to become a lot more rare to see. And to me, that is sad. I enjoy the animated cards, and i like playing with them. I do not enjoy paying enough to support a small country to get them, and then having them only "last" a year.

For once, i think Blizzard SHOULD ABSOLUTELY take the road that doesnt generate the most cash to set things right by

a) Letting us disenchant ALL our golden cards for full dust value.
b) Letting us re-craft those goldens, for a significantly lower dust cost
c) Gain a lot of good will and retain customers who now percieve them less as a money grabbing scam.

People who has spent a shit ton of cash on this game, would then have a lot of excessive dust and could maintain a full golden collection for a few years or simply craft full expansions without spending a dime. But you know what, we payed for that dust.

 What was the point of collecting golden cards in the first place?

They don;t give a competitive advantage, you can't sell them, you can't trade them. They're there purely for 'shiney e-peen'.

The fault was yours for assigning 'value' to something which never had value in the first place outside your own head. The fact that some people saw it as a 'investment' is frankly deluded.

You spend money on your e-peen, and on a cosmetic, nothing more, nothing less, and it was money which was spend, not invested, not something which give you a return. Thats it.

I have spent/spend money on Hearthstone, becuase i have fun doing it, but I never nver for a second thing it's something which I'll get back, or anything other than fun.

 

 

And, i'll dare to say, your point of view is less important than that of those who have invested huge money into the game. You dont stand to lose anything either way. I, and many with me, do.

 sure, Mr Big Shot...

You lost your money the second you clicked on 'purchase'.

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Another way to look at it, is since wild cheapens our golden collection, maybe golden cards should be cheaper in the first place. What the f is the point of collecting golden cards anymore ? It costs a bloody fortune, and it does not last more than a year, in the case of adventures. My prediction is, golden cards is going to become a lot more rare to see. And to me, that is sad. I enjoy the animated cards, and i like playing with them. I do not enjoy paying enough to support a small country to get them, and then having them only "last" a year.

For once, i think Blizzard SHOULD ABSOLUTELY take the road that doesnt generate the most cash to set things right by

a) Letting us disenchant ALL our golden cards for full dust value.
b) Letting us re-craft those goldens, for a significantly lower dust cost
c) Gain a lot of good will and retain customers who now percieve them less as a money grabbing scam.

People who has spent a shit ton of cash on this game, would then have a lot of excessive dust and could maintain a full golden collection for a few years or simply craft full expansions without spending a dime. But you know what, we payed for that dust.

 What was the point of collecting golden cards in the first place?

They don;t give a competitive advantage, you can't sell them, you can't trade them. They're there purely for 'shiney e-peen'.

The fault was yours for assigning 'value' to something which never had value in the first place outside your own head. The fact that some people saw it as a 'investment' is frankly deluded.

You spend money on your e-peen, and on a cosmetic, nothing more, nothing less, and it was money which was spend, not invested, not something which give you a return. Thats it.

I have spent/spend money on Hearthstone, becuase i have fun doing it, but I never nver for a second thing it's something which I'll get back, or anything other than fun.

 

 

And, i'll dare to say, your point of view is less important than that of those who have invested huge money into the game. You dont stand to lose anything either way. I, and many with me, do.

 sure, Mr Big Shot...

You lost your money the second you clicked on 'purchase'.

Wrong. The moment i clicked purchase, i exchanged my currency for a commodity that i valued exactly to the amount of currency i payed for it. I was completely OK with exchanging my currency for the commodity, because, to me they were equally valuable.

Now though, Blizzard tells me that the currency i spent, actually bought me much less than i expected them to - and when the amount i spent is quite substantial, that becomes a serious problem to me.

Whatever. Im done spending cash on HS either way. Blizzard has seen to that.

I humbly request a one time full dust disenchanting option. From now on, it will be clear, that the new expansion will rotate out.

I played MTG for a while . What this spring will happend with HS is exaclty the same whats happenend wit MTG cards when a new Blocks come out in Standard. The old one is out.

What's happenened then with rare cards that fall out from Standard and have no chance to be played in a other format. The value just drop from 20$ or more to 4-5$ or worst. So actually HS copy the systeme from MTG in a lot of ways.

Did you ask Wizard a refound for your Foil cards that you don't can't play anymore in Standard?