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Quote from Balckovic >>

Oh boy indeed, you could open a salt factory.

1. they said not to do reprints of old cards
2. keeping all cards in rotation would wreck the game in a blink of an eye. Why? Look at yugioh's power creep to keep up with new stuff. And now think again: do you want that? Or what's your plan to balance an infinite number of cards?

Quote from Stat1cVo1D >>

To make this clear for everyone:
"Wild" will become the new casual mode and will evolve to full-retard-trololol-mode over time:

- Let's be honest: A lot of ppl play HS also for Epeen (me included). If standard is being propagated in official tournament and your profile shows only your standard rank, it is THE (ONLY) way to play the game.

- Cards are going to be developed, balanced and revisioned with STANDARD mode in mind. They might (and at a certain point in time: WILL) be completely broken, if used with cards from older/banned expansions. While Wild might be also fun right after standard format starts, it will become utter BS after 2 additional expansions, in which no designer kept cards like Boom and Shredder in mind anymore.

So instead of treating HS as the digital game it is and keep it fresh with constant balance patches and revisions, they decided to go for full cash grab and going to treat it like a PHYSICAL CARD GAME, which it is OBVIOUSLY NOT.
When we asked in the past for constant balance patches, they said: "NOOO! We can't do that! Players would be very sad, if their beloved cards in which they invested so much time and money, became worse!"
And now THEY REMOVE THEM FROM THE FREAKIN GAME.
And yeah, for me and a lot of other players, those cards will cease to exist. I haven't played a single match in casual mode for more than a year. So I will not play "Wild" in the future, esp. because it will be broken as sh1t.

This is even more infuriating, if you keep in mind that they released only 2 Adventures and 2 Expansions and already remove HALF of their additional content from the game,...

And guess what they will do? They'll sell us new Antique Healbots, new Sludge Belchers and at a certain point a new Dr. Boom. Esp. cards like Healbot are irreplaceable and HAVE to exist. So they'll just rerelease 'em with a new picture and a new name. And you have to buy new packs and more packs and more packs,...

Oh boy,...

Thank god I don't work for Blizzard Entertainment/Activision...

Pleasing this new generation of children, who are self-entitled whine babies about everything, must be the most grand Quest of them all..

Crafted golden cards? Cool, go play WILD FORMAT in the spring.

Your using a product created by a very large corporation and its entitled entities; these forum zombies are seen as fleas to these corporations..

Hence your blue in the face about the colour of your pixels (being golden) ranting on a forum.

What else needs to be said... besides stfu? You use the product or you don't. That's the relationship of CORPORATIONS and CONSUMERS.

Quote from Stat1cVo1D >>

To make this clear for everyone:
"Wild" will become the new casual mode and will evolve to full-retard-trololol-mode over time:

- Let's be honest: A lot of ppl play HS also for Epeen (me included). If standard is being propagated in official tournament and your profile shows only your standard rank, it is THE (ONLY) way to play the game.

- Cards are going to be developed, balanced and revisioned with STANDARD mode in mind. They might (and at a certain point in time: WILL) be completely broken, if used with cards from older/banned expansions. While Wild might be also fun right after standard format starts, it will become utter BS after 2 additional expansions, in which no designer kept cards like Boom and Shredder in mind anymore.

So instead of treating HS as the digital game it is and keep it fresh with constant balance patches and revisions, they decided to go for full cash grab and going to treat it like a PHYSICAL CARD GAME, which it is OBVIOUSLY NOT.
When we asked in the past for constant balance patches, they said: "NOOO! We can't do that! Players would be very sad, if their beloved cards in which they invested so much time and money, became worse!"
And now THEY REMOVE THEM FROM THE FREAKIN GAME.
And yeah, for me and a lot of other players, those cards will cease to exist. I haven't played a single match in casual mode for more than a year. So I will not play "Wild" in the future, esp. because it will be broken as sh1t.

This is even more infuriating, if you keep in mind that they released only 2 Adventures and 2 Expansions and already remove HALF of their additional content from the game,...

And guess what they will do? They'll sell us new Antique Healbots, new Sludge Belchers and at a certain point a new Dr. Boom. Esp. cards like Healbot are irreplaceable and HAVE to exist. So they'll just rerelease 'em with a new picture and a new name. And you have to buy new packs and more packs and more packs,...

Oh boy,...

Guy spends hundred of dollars on a children's card game.  New game format is announced and thinks that he deserves some sort of compensation because he wants to play it instead of the old format.  So.... what makes him feel so entitles that he gets a refund for something that is still working perfectly fine and intended?  You crafted golden cards to use in play mode.  Now you can use those golden cards in wild mode.  Nobody is forcing you to play standard dude.  Some people smh.  Greedy players like yourself acting like Blizzard owes you something when nothing has even changed.

Quote from Goobiedog >>

Quote from Stat1cVo1D >>

To make this clear for everyone:
"Wild" will become the new casual mode and will evolve to full-retard-trololol-mode over time:

- Let's be honest: A lot of ppl play HS also for Epeen (me included). If standard is being propagated in official tournament and your profile shows only your standard rank, it is THE (ONLY) way to play the game.

- Cards are going to be developed, balanced and revisioned with STANDARD mode in mind. They might (and at a certain point in time: WILL) be completely broken, if used with cards from older/banned expansions. While Wild might be also fun right after standard format starts, it will become utter BS after 2 additional expansions, in which no designer kept cards like Boom and Shredder in mind anymore.

So instead of treating HS as the digital game it is and keep it fresh with constant balance patches and revisions, they decided to go for full cash grab and going to treat it like a PHYSICAL CARD GAME, which it is OBVIOUSLY NOT.
When we asked in the past for constant balance patches, they said: "NOOO! We can't do that! Players would be very sad, if their beloved cards in which they invested so much time and money, became worse!"
And now THEY REMOVE THEM FROM THE FREAKIN GAME.
And yeah, for me and a lot of other players, those cards will cease to exist. I haven't played a single match in casual mode for more than a year. So I will not play "Wild" in the future, esp. because it will be broken as sh1t.

This is even more infuriating, if you keep in mind that they released only 2 Adventures and 2 Expansions and already remove HALF of their additional content from the game,...

And guess what they will do? They'll sell us new Antique Healbots, new Sludge Belchers and at a certain point a new Dr. Boom. Esp. cards like Healbot are irreplaceable and HAVE to exist. So they'll just rerelease 'em with a new picture and a new name. And you have to buy new packs and more packs and more packs,...

Oh boy,...

 This post sums up the situation perfectly. 

The proper solution would be to treat Hearthstone like a digital game, make regular tuning passes where you both nerf and buff cards. Then bring out new sets that have clever new mechanics and card types. 

Blizzard's solution is a disaster for casuals. 1/3 to 1/2 of our cards go away pretty soon. Then our choice is to go play in the unsupported and unbalanced dumping-grounds of Wild or spend constantly to keep up with the current rotation in Standard. 

Quote from Alexincoming >>

Guy spends hundred of dollars on a children's card game.  New game format is announced and thinks that he deserves some sort of compensation because he wants to play it instead of the old format.  So.... what makes him feel so entitles that he gets a refund for something that is still working perfectly fine and intended?  You crafted golden cards to use in play mode.  Now you can use those golden cards in wild mode.  Nobody is forcing you to play standard dude.  Some people smh.  Greedy players like yourself acting like Blizzard owes you something when nothing has even changed.

You people defending multimillion dollar company like Blizzard and taking their side instead of supporting consumers such as yourself. I'm trully astonished by your foolishness.

Anyone who doesn't understand that this is a bussiness model in which only Blizzard and only professional Hearthstone players who practically get their collections for free, have benefits, is blind and obviously fell for that so called Wild mode which will sooner or later cease to exist due to the number of broken, unbalanced combos that will emerge and make the format unexicitng. It will only exist as a farse put up by Hearthstone dev team so that long time players don't get mad for investing tons of money.

Well, it happened that way on all collectible card games (ccg) that had enough success to make several expansions. They had to do that or die because of a lack of recruitment (old players always stop at one time or another). They learned from the ccg scene, and well.

The difference being that with real carton cards, when the ccg goes "wild" (or "open" or "type 2" or whatever) you can just play that format with them and keep them, no refund at all despite the invested money.

Blizzard offers us the unique possibility to dust the wild cards (including Nax) to buy standard ones, which is cool.

Of course they also could offer us full dust or free cards, but their business model is known to everyone.

Quote from nat_hs >>

I totally agree, Blizzard should allows people who crafted the cards from adventures in gold to disenchant them for the full value. I asked it to Blizzard on their twitter account.

When you pay a product in a shop and you can't use it or it is broken, you're refunded for the full price, not 1/8 of the price :-)

Quote from Beast_Walker >>

You people defending multimillion dollar company like Blizzard and taking their side instead of supporting consumers such as yourself. I'm trully astonished by your foolishness.

Anyone who doesn't understand that this is a bussiness model in which only Blizzard and only professional Hearthstone players who practically get their collections for free, have benefits, is blind and obviously fell for that so called Wild mode which will sooner or later cease to exist due to the number of broken, unbalanced combos that will emerge and make the format unexicitng. It will only exist as a farse put up by Hearthstone dev team so that long time players don't get mad for investing tons of money.

Quote from Beast_Walker >>

You people defending multimillion dollar company like Blizzard and taking their side instead of supporting consumers such as yourself. I'm trully astonished by your foolishness.

Anyone who doesn't understand that this is a bussiness model in which only Blizzard and only professional Hearthstone players who practically get their collections for free, have benefits, is blind and obviously fell for that so called Wild mode which will sooner or later cease to exist due to the number of broken, unbalanced combos that will emerge and make the format unexicitng. It will only exist as a farse put up by Hearthstone dev team so that long time players don't get mad for investing tons of money.

Well they can piss on their customers and most of them will welcome it with open arms and mouths judging by the responses in some of these threads.  

Quote from DragonConsort >>

Well they can piss on their customers and most of them will welcome it with open arms and mouths judging by the responses in some of these threads.  

 

Quote from Beast_Walker >>

You people defending multimillion dollar company like Blizzard and taking their side instead of supporting consumers such as yourself. I'm trully astonished by your foolishness.

Blizzard pulls off a classic bait and switch. Boy oh boy am I glad to not have spent a single penny on this game. The people that will feel this the most are those who spent a moderate amount of money and couldn't get all of Naxx or GvG cards. They are stuck in a situation where it's either they spend a lot now to finish their Naxx/GvG collection in order to stay competitive in Wild, or they take the hit and move on.

People that don't have those won't care about Wild at all, and people who have the entire collection don't care either because no change for them.

Blizzard is pulling off a really stupid move against a type of player they are notorious to care for, the casual crowd.

Personally, I've grinded gold for every single card I have. Paid for Naxx and LoE in gold, not in real money, so at least I played and enjoyed a game while reaping a reward at the end. I can only imagine the retarded amounts of frustration I would feel if I actually gave in and bought those expansions.

The cat's out of the bag people. They've shown their true colors. They will pull off a bait and switch. If I came close to giving in and buying packs to speed up my grinding process at some point before, well now there is NO CHANCE IN HELL this thought will become an option. 

I wouldn't be surprised if Duelyst sees a sudden influx of new players. (The game is awesome btw)

I feel for you bro. I spent alot of money trying to complete sets. If i had gone down the golden path i would be very unhappy about the changes. What a waste of dust. I like the idea of a standard format, but also still want a lively eternal format. And since they are not going to be selling cards for the non-standard format i think it will erode away that eternal player base. R.I.P. my naxx and gvg cards.

For those that see the golden path as an invesment i want to put a example in real live:

You buy a car ( fictional name a Ford edition A). You want all people know you are importand so yo buy the card with all extras and customize it with an inversion equal to the normal cost of the card ( double value, now is a Ford A+). For around a time between 6 months and 2 years you go to work each day with your customize card so all people know you are and importan person. 

After that time goverment estipulates Fords A and another ones of the same time are too contaminant, and metropolitan areas need less contamination and barred those classes of cards for circulate in the city. Now they can only circulate in roads and little towns.

Can you reclaim your invesment? No

can you reclaim the cost ofthe car? No, it has a prize to sell and the car is still funtional, simply is not for city format

can you reclaim the tunning? No, it was your decition, no one put a gun inyour head for the tuning

can you get some money selling the car? yes, but is a second hand car with 100k km in the counter. if you sell it you will get less money than a new card for you have used it already.

Quote from Noedens >>

For those that see the golden path as an invesment i want to put a example in real live:

You buy a car ( fictional name a Ford edition A). You want all people know you are importand so yo buy the card with all extras and customize it with an inversion equal to the normal cost of the card ( double value, now is a Ford A+). For around a time between 6 months and 2 years you go to work each day with your customize card so all people know you are and importan person. 

After that time goverment estipulates Fords A and another ones of the same time are too contaminant, and metropolitan areas need less contamination and barred those classes of cards for circulate in the city. Now they can only circulate in roads and little towns.

Can you reclaim your invesment? No

can you reclaim the cost ofthe car? No, it has a prize to sell and the car is still funtional, simply is not for city format

can you reclaim the tunning? No, it was your decition, no one put a gun inyour head for the tuning

can you get some money selling the car? yes, but is a second hand car with 100k km in the counter. if you sell it you will get less money than a new card for you have used it already.

Your example is completely erroneous and naive. The government and the car mechanic are two entities that do not share the same agenda and are not aware of each other's intentions. Nice try, but yeah, better luck next time.